Howard Dean coming up on Chris Matthews nt

[fadedrose]

[lob1]

1. I saw it earlier. Tweety doesn't let Dean answer a single question.

It's Tweety at his worst.

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[MannyGoldstein]

3. I Think You Misunderstood

I suspect that he meant that while Obama was dealing with inherited problems, Obama's starting to look like a loser for continuing to blame Bush.

Dean's not responsible for solving the problems - he was heaved under the bus by the Obama/Emanuel Administration - so he can blame Bush with some objectivity

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[MannyGoldstein]

6. He Did. nt

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[fadedrose]

12. Obama has advisers - send THEM an email and tell them

how you feel.

[fadedrose]

10. Clear to me

Obama could blame Bush for wrongs he inherited, but there's too much stuff going on now that can't be blamed on Bush.

Understand it now?

[90-percent]

4. Tweety

Tweety got totally unhinged at Dean. Would not let him speak. Filibustered Dean's entire time on the show.

I'm surprised Dean didn't simply get up and leave.

Tweety's mission was to talk at Dean unrelentingly. Tweety was only interested in what was coming out of his mouth.

-jim

[HillGal]

8. Dean isn't making any sense at all, he's saying that democrats who voted for Coakley

were also for the public option, so why did they vote for Brown? you don't send a message that way. :crazy:

[Imajika]

9. Dean looked like a fool...

and Matthews called him out on it.

Dean's argument was just plain silly. He just couldn't answer for the fact that Coakley was right where he was on HCR. Dean is for the public option AND she is for the public option. The idea that progressive people that supported a public option and a more left of center reform package either voted for Brown or stayed home is just silly.

The difference between Brown and Coakley were crystal clear. She was for the public option and progressive HCR, he wanted to kill the bill. The voters chose him.

And yes, I understand a whole array of issues entered into this election, but Dean's specific argument was just kinda dumb. He sounded like every other ideologue from the right or left that find support for their position no matter what happens.

[fadedrose]

11. Brown didn't like the bill any more than the Progressives did,

too watered down...the original bill would have helped Massachusetts more because of Medicate and total enrollment of the population.

[Cha]

13. Now Mass has themselves a Senator who

believes in torture.

A NOTICEABLE DROP-OFF IN QUALITY"

Sen.-elect Scott Brown (R-Mass.) offered an interesting peek into his worldview last night during his victory speech.

" In dealing with terrorists, our tax dollars should pay for weapons to stop them, not lawyers to defend them.

"Raising taxes, taking over our health care, and giving new rights to terrorists is the wrong agenda for our country."

Perhaps now would be a good time to note that this is a Senate seat once held by John F. Kennedy, Ted Kennedy, Henry Cabot Lodge, and John Quincy Adams, among others.

It now belongs to Scott Brown -- a conservative who supports torture, opposes Wall Street accountability, supports more tax cuts for the wealthy, opposes economic recovery efforts, opposes Ted Kennedy's life's work on health care reform, and doubts that global climate change is the result of human activity.

http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/

[fadedrose]

14. True, all you said,

but I did hear that their Medicare would be helped with a US health plan..don't ask me where tho...Brown I think said it but don't recall when or where.

[Hansel]

15. It's was a protest vote to send a message.

It's too late for the public option and the voters engaged in protest voting knew that. They probably saw her support of the public option as pandering at that point because they know there's not a chance in hell it is going to pass. So that probably just pissed them off even more.

Dean was talking about poll results so whether or not it is just plain silly is on the people who responded and not on Dean. If Tweety would have shut his flipping mouth for 2 seconds he would have heard that. There is more than one poll showing that same thing and there were plenty of discussion on the left leaning blogs before the election that some were going to do this. In fact there was also some other posters trying to talk them down.

People vote for silly reasons all of the time. And when you take action based on anger, it nine times out of ten is irrational. Silly, if you prefer.

Just because Tweety couldn't get his tiny mind around this was no excuse for his behavior.