No Question: Poll Results - Here is what Obama voters who voted Brown said/wanted

[stevenleser]

http://pol.moveon.org/brownpoll/results.html

- 95% of voters said the economy was important or very important when it came to deciding their vote.

- 53% of Obama voters who voted for Brown and 56% of Obama voters who did not vote in the Massachusetts election said that Democrats enacting tighter restrictions on Wall Street would make them more likely to vote Democratic in the 2010 elections.

- 51% of voters who voted for Obama in 2008 but Brown in 2010 said that Democratic policies were doing more to help Wall Street than Main Street.

- Nearly half (49%) of Obama voters who voted for Brown support the Senate health care bill or think it does not go far enough. Only 11% think the legislation goes too far.
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[Howler]

1. It wasn't the tea baggers!

The Democratic base and independents are mad as hell and aren't going to take it any more!!!

[roguevalley]

24. Mass sent a message to the white house to do what they said they

would do because of a few important things:

Brown is only a two year fill in so far.

they already have great health care.

They can suck it up. Too bad no one else can. But having lived through Palin (barely) I guess they did what they could.

[donco6]

2. So what do we do? RUN RIGHT! What else? n/t

[annabanana]

3. I wish these numbers got the exposure that the phoney analyses

always get.

[scheming daemons]

4. How in the hell did they get exit polls on voters who "did not vote"?

Your second bullet point says 56% of Obama voters who did NOT vote yesterday........


How did they exit-poll people that didn't vote?



Makes the poll questionable.

[lob1]

7. It wasn't an exit poll, just a plain old poll.

[stevenleser]

8. It was not an exit poll

It was a poll conducted after the election.

[ProSense]

5. They voted or Brown to reject Wall Street and support health care? n/t

[stevenleser]

9. What I get from that is, their concerns re: the economy and their anger re: Wall street

trumped most everything else.

[ngant17]

10. since when did Republicans become "anti-Wall Street"?

I don't understand this thread, it's not making any sense at all.

The only thing I understand is the role that independents play in the elections, and this was more of a rejection of the old ways of doing things, and an affirmation of trying something new and different.

So why would anyone locally from Mass. care about national health care because they already have it as it is mandated from the state/local provinces? Maybe it's asking too much for the average voter to think about the Big Picture? And lest I forget, hoorah for Cambridge, it was the exception, they do seem to get it after all!

[stevenleser]

11. From where are you getting "Republicans"? These are Obama voters who voted Brown or stayed home (nt)

[ngant17]

26. the candidate they voted for is from that party

so why would anyone (Repug, Dem, indy) associate anti-Wall Street with a Republican candidate? This thread still makes no sense.

[stevenleser]

29. How are you getting than an Obama voter is necessarily a Repug?

Some of the respondants voted Brown and some stayed home.

[Autumn]

6. Interesting, especially the

numbers that show nearly half of Obama voters who voted for Brown support the Senate health care bill or think it does not go far enough. I would say it has to be that they are really pissed off at the way things are going, I know I am but sure couldn't bring myself to vote for a republican.

[stevenleser]

12. FOLKS, please also check the crosstabs. they are very important. Here is a direct link

http://pol.moveon.org/brownpoll/

[totodeinhere]

13. Not to brag, but that's exactly what I said even before those poll results came out.

But some people, mostly blind supporters of Obama who think he can do no wrong, continue to be in denial.

It's not too late. Kill this monstrosity of a so-called HCR bill and start over with a strong bill that at the very least offers a genuine public option that gives the American people a choice, and then the Dems can turn this thing around.

[SaveOurDemocracy]

14. Think they're listening? I signed the petition to Dems too:

http://pol.moveon.org/timetofight/

[stevenleser]

15. MoveOn.org has 5 million members. I joined recently because of that.

Congressfolks listen to you when a group of you show up as part of MoveOn

[SaveOurDemocracy]

16. I 'unjoined' when they didn't remain neutral in the...

primaries. Today is the first I've visited their site since.

[stevenleser]

17. Well, they poll their members on what they should do. Its a true grass roots organization

the membership voted to make an endorsement.

[SaveOurDemocracy]

18. I was a member ... the polling methods were questionable.

[stevenleser]

30. In what way Charlie?

The way MoveOn polls its members is pretty much the same whether its regarding what kind of event should be had or anything else.

[Cha]

19. I have no sympathy

for idiots who vote for a teabag partier to protest not liberal enough. Freakin' fairweather freaks.

"teach a lesson":silly:wah wah. "I want my country back" wah wah..

I'm not even sure I believe that.

"A NOTICEABLE DROP-OFF IN QUALITY"

"Sen.-elect Scott Brown (R-Mass.) offered an interesting peek into his worldview last night during his victory speech.

" In dealing with terrorists, our tax dollars should pay for weapons to stop them, not lawyers to defend them.

"Raising taxes, taking over our health care, and giving new rights to terrorists is the wrong agenda for our country."

Perhaps now would be a good time to note that this is a Senate seat once held by John F. Kennedy, Ted Kennedy, Henry Cabot Lodge, and John Quincy Adams, among others.

It now belongs to Scott Brown -- a conservative who supports torture, opposes Wall Street accountability, supports more tax cuts for the wealthy, opposes economic recovery efforts, opposes Ted Kennedy's life's work on health care reform, and doubts that global climate change is the result of human activity.


And says things like, "In dealing with terrorists, our tax dollars should pay for weapons to stop them, not lawyers to defend them."

It's admittedly tiresome to hear any political observer say, "In the good old days...." Those days were rarely as good as anyone remembers, and prominent thinkers of the day have been complaining about the next generation being less impressive than the last for as long as we've had the printed word.

But a once-storied Senate seat that belonged to Adams and Kennedy is now filled by a dim-witted wingnut, and that's a real shame -- for Massachusetts, for the Senate, and for all of us."

—Steve Benen 8:00 AM Permalink | Trackbacks | Comments (50)
http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/

Thanks Steve Benen for pointing out the obvious that might take some in Mass a while to fathom. They say they want their country back? Some slogan the teabags came up with and they have no idea what it means.

[boppers]

20. So, they're pissed about the government giving businesses loans?

Conflated with weird ideas about false dichotomies?

[fadedrose]

21. K

[Cha]

22. Here's a quote from the teabag asshole now..

"Jr. Sen from MA to Dems in Congress: If Dems Push Senate Bill Through, 'They'll Pay for It Dearly'

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x7527872

Throwing around his threatening ass already.

[davidpdx]

23. Those numbers are telling

We didn't get done what we had to do, combined with a lousy candidate who ran a lackluster campaign. That equals disaster.

Obama needs to be aggressive in pushing his legislation through now for three reasons:

1) We need the economy to continue to improve

2) Obama and Congress need to show that they have accomplished something

3) This maybe the only chance we have at passing real health care reform for another generation

If Obama and Congress don't start turning things around, we will have severe losses this year.

[TheKentuckian]

25. #2 is more like stop carrying that big business water and do what we sent you to do

, tend the needs of this busted up country and its fucked over working folk.

[CTLawGuy]

27. how ironic

that they voted to make tighter restrictions on wall street demonstrably harder. And do they think that Scott Brown favors tighter restrictions on wall street?

Also, Move On has a particular agenda and we should take this poll with that grain of salt.

[stevenleser]

28. MoveOn didnt conduct the poll. They commissioned it, but they did not conduct it.

Research 2000 conducted the poll.

[CTLawGuy]

34. it was conducted FOR them

and there is a always a bias when polls are conducted for a particular partisan organization.

[depakid]

31. No surprise there

Anyone who isn't utterly tone deaf could have foreseen that.

[Samantha]

32. I have heard these ticked up repeatedly in the last couple of days

BUT it is difficult for me to imagine how any thinking American can buy into a Republican passing himself off during an election as a POPULIST. I just can't see anyone (even of average political intelligence) falling for that.

If I were truly that angry at Obama and/or the Dems, I would have just stayed home instead of going to the polls and voting for Brown, an obvious Trojan Horse. I also understand that 51 percent of the registered voters in MA are Independents, at least that is what MSNBC reported, but I believe over the long haul Brown will be an embarrassment to the Commonwealth of Massachusetts.

[BeyondGeography]

33. I'm sure HCR will go much further with a Pubbie replacing Ted

:silly:

[hileeopnyn8d]

35. Bottom line

They're idiots!