Irish Central: Bill Maher says Obama "Worse than Cheney."

[Captain Hilts]

I've never been a Maher fan and certainly won't start now.

http://www.irishcentral.com/story/news/periscope/bill-maher-slams-obama-and-draws-gasps-from-crowd-82324907.html

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Maher was not about to let the audience have their comfort zone. He sneered at Obama's giveback to the banks, doing a wicked caricature of Obama handing the billions out to A.I.G. and Goldman Sachs. He was also deeply critical --and hilariously so -- of Obama's failure to press home his agenda like Dick Cheney and George Bush were able to do despite what the electorate thought.

When Bill Maher, the most liberal stand-up comedian in America, is attacking Obama, then the President should be concerned., When he is comparing him unfavorably to Dick Cheney, then he had better be REALLY concerned.

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[SemiCharmedQuark]

1. Maher is "the most liberal stand up comedian in America"? LOL

[MUAD_DIB]

4. ISn't Maher a libertarian?

[SemiCharmedQuark]

6. He has described himself as a libertarian, yes.

[Captain Hilts]

10. He says that now. That's the route wealthy liberals often go. nt

[struggle4progress]

44. It would be rare for anyone to convert to libertarianism as they became older:

the libertarians are doctrinaire ideologues, and people typically more concrete and practical in their thinking as they age

[jasi2006]

49. Lots of Obama supporters on the surface were really folks who

secretly hoped that he would fail. They just hated the thought of Hillary being nominated and than hated the thought of dim-wit Palin as VP.

[Honeycombe8]

80. No need to insult Obama supporters any more than Hillary supporters, etc., just

because many Obama supporters are wondering about his performance.

I was an early Obama supporter (before some people on DU knew who he was, even). I contributed to his campaign. I really thought he'd be his own man and become, possibly, another FDR.

I am disillusioned and disappointed.

I said early on that it was a mistake to select Rahm and other Clinton people to staff his cabinet and administration. Not that they're bad people or not good at their jobs. But Clinton people had a different agenda, and they are wired differently. It seemed to be it would be more of the same ol' same ol'. And that's apparently what happened.

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[Honeycombe8]

79. He has identified himself as a libertarian for years. nt

[Ter]

30. He can call himself what he wants

But no libertarian supports gun-control and government programs like Maher.

[TheDebbieDee]

23. He's definitely the most ugly stand-up comedian in America!

[Writer]

2. What an absolutely MINDLESS thing to say. n/t

[SemiCharmedQuark]

5. Maher didn't compare him to Cheney as in "He's as evil as Cheney"

He said that he didn't get his agenda rammed through like Cheney did-which is true.


That said, Maher is still an AIDS denier and therefore a dumbass.

[burning rain]

41. pssst....

You're supposed to make a virtue out of Democrats' fecklessness and say something like, Of course Bush and Cheney got their program through with slimmer majorities! They're big mean thugs! We're Democrats and we respect democracy and the filibuster and we're proud not to be able to accomplish dick! Sheesh... get with the program!

[ShortnFiery]

74. Other than outlawing Torture = enhanced interrogation - Obama's foreign policy is "as evil"

as Darth Cheney's.

If you disagree, DO TELL where it's more humane?

[FrenchieCat]

3. Maher has been attacking Obama for the last 9 months.

Where have you been?

[Captain Hilts]

8. I can't stand the guy and marvel that so many here do. nt

[DesertFlower]

18. i've noticed. i used to be a big

fan of maher. not any more.

[ecstatic]

27. Same here. He's just a bitter sad man. nt

[TankLV]

46. I believe it's been longer than a YEAR...

Maher is for - Maher - he's an idiot...

but Obama IS a laughing stock now...

[gateley]

7. I think he's more Libertarian than Liberal -- but I understand the point he's

making in that Cheney got things done (in his slimy, illegal, immoral way), Obama is running into difficulties getting his agenda implemented. I wouldn't take it to mean any more than that, though.

I'm guessing Maher would much prefer Obama and Cheney where they are right now, rather than how it was during the last administration, but I may just be projecting.

[Terry in Austin]

9. Liberal comedian?

Actually, Mahler is libertarian -- socially liberal in some ways, but with the "less government is always better" dogma.

[SemiCharmedQuark]

11. Exactly. I'd maybe buy the line that he's a liberal...he seems to have become more liberal since 96

when he supported Bob freaking Dole.

But "the most liberal stand up comedian"? Please.

[timeforpeace]

58. Maybe not compared to here, but the rest of the country sees him as quite liberal.

[Jennicut]

12. Maher is a sexist tool. I have been repeating that on every thread about him for

the last few months.

[Captain Hilts]

15. He and Matthews are the WORST sexists on television. nt

[tranche]

13. Bill Marr's ratings are that far down?

Gotta make news.

[Orrex]

14. If Maher didn't laugh at his own "jokes," would anyone know that they're supposed to be funny?

As a comedian, he's a hack.

As a political commentator, he's an idiot.

[Captain Hilts]

16. WHY is he so popular on DU???

[Orrex]

17. I've asked that dozens of times, and I've been ridiculed for asking it

Apparently he "speaks truth to power" or something like that. And he's an anti-vaccine zealot, too.

[win_in_06]

63. Anti-vaccine?

He shares that belief with Rush Limbaugh.

[themaguffin]

19. It seems like nobody is popular here unless you agree w/them 100% of the time

I like Maher and he has given many great commentaries that are much more insightful than traditional pundits etc.

That doesn't mean that I agree with him on everything because I don't and he has been wrong on things, because he's, you know... human...

[Orrex]

28. He's like a slightly more left-leaning Dennis Miller

And about as funny.

It's not even about whether or not I agree with him; he's objectively wrong on numerous key issues in which opinion doesn't play a part.

[themaguffin]

48. that is not very accurate at all. wow how quickly DU forgets some of his great commentaries

[Orrex]

51. Well, he's great at shooting fish in a barrel, I'll give him that much.

[themaguffin]

69. oh jesus.

[Orrex]

70. People make that mistake all the time, but honeslty I'm just a regular guy

Though my divine manner and miraculous presence frequently cause confusion.

[themaguffin]

72. confusion indeed. simplistic ignorance too.

Jesus, the kind of ignorance on this forum is a little to blind freeperism. Jesus (yeah Jesus)how old are people here to only accept people are 100% in agreement with them.

That kind of threshold is ridiculous and to dismiss someone like Maher who has articulated many great points (ahead of Democrats) is just silly and immature.

[Orrex]

77. That's a preposterous red herring

No one here objects to Maher because they aren't "100% in agreement with" him.

They object to him because he's full of shit, he's a sexist asshole, he's not funny, and he's frequently on the wrong side of important issues.


You're attempting to equate a well-considered rejection of this alleged comedian with a kneejerk response to someone who says unpleasant things. I'm sure that it's easier for you to think of it in those terms, so go ahead and frame it that way if you like. Heck, maybe some people even do reject him simply because they don't agree with him 100% of the time, but I haven't seen such people here on DU, and I'm certainly not one of them.

[themaguffin]

78. rally? the rhetoric is absolute and reactionary, instead of rationale & thought out

[Orrex]

81. Not at all. I've thought for years that he's an insufferable asshole.

When he demonstrates otherwise, I'll happily revise my position; therefore, my view is not absolute.

Until then, he'll remain a wrong-headed, sexist asshole and an unfunny hack.

[themaguffin]

84. i am talking about commentaries. you have issues with him

fine, but that doesn't erase some very articulate points he has made over the years.

[Orrex]

85. In all these years, I've never heard him offer any uniquely insightful commentary

He functions as a megaphone, perhaps, and he's not inarticulate, but that just means that he knows how to read.

[themaguffin]

86. I wouldn't expect one who has an inherently strong disliking to ever read/watch him so it's

absolutely no surprise that you would have missed some good commentaries.

[Orrex]

87. Let me know the next time he offers one

Whenever that might be...

[themaguffin]

88. usually it's all over the place around here, well it was, now I guess he is on the shit list...

[martymar64]

52. It's the criticism they don't like, the messenger is interchangeable

If Bill Hicks was alive and he said the exact same thing as Maher, the ODF (Obama Defense Force) would jump on him as well, complain about how unfunny he is, etc. They like to have these little two minute hates to have somebody to direct their ire against. If it's not Maher, it's Rachel or Nader or Howard Dean or Jon Stewart or KO or Kucinich. Gotta have a fresh body for the wheels of the bus that go round and round.

[Orrex]

53. Au contraire--I've known that Maher was an asshole since before I'd even heard of Obama.

Lumping Maher together with Maddow, Nader, Dean, and Stewart just shows that you don't understand either comedy or political commentary.


And grouping Maher with Kucinich shows that you don't understand people's objections to either of them, since those objections differ widely.

[uponit7771]

20. Maher jumping the shark isn't funny, he's not credible when it comes to Obama any longer

[NatBurner]

21. i'm not gonna panic until carrot top weighs in.

if we lose carrot top, it's ovah

[treestar]

22. This guy is that important?

:rofl: who cares what entertainers think? These people are trying to get ratings!

And they take huge checks from whatever corporation runs that network! Don't they lose all credibility just for that? :rofl:

[Spazito]

24. LOL, what a buffoon and even worse, he is an unfunny buffoon!

His ego is so over-inflated it is about the only funny thing about him.

[NoFace]

25. Just when I thought Maher had a brain. nt

[ecstatic]

26. Maher probably misses the tax cuts

He'd love for another Bush/Cheney to take office. Not only does it increase his jokes, but it allows him to keep more of his millions.

[IcyPeas]

29. I like him

sure he's off the mark sometimes but he's a comedian what do you expect?

:hide:

[FrenchieCat]

32. But he's a cynical comedian, and some days cynics are tiring.....

and don't really help make things any better.

Besides, he thinks he's sexy....
and I don't.

[Bluenorthwest]

45. But you defended Donnie McClurkin, dear

And said Obama had to use homophobic hate preachers to 'prove his bona fides'. So your opinion about what is acceptable speech included outright slanders of millions of Americans. Your Donnie said that gay people are 'trying to kill our children'. And you defended that man as a worthwhile addition to Obama's campaign.
Bill never accused any minority group of being murderous. Donnie did. And you defended that man with passion.
How many rule books do you keep?

[AspenRose]

54. How many grudges do you keep, 'dear?'

Very creative to use a thread about Maher to take an opportunity to personally bash someone about McClurkin, I'll give you credit for that.

[Divine Discontent]

64. despite the tone, using someone's previous opinion to point out something new they're saying is bad?

[instantkarma]

65. The thing is, Maher didn't say what is in the subject line.

and Irish Central didn't claim Maher said that, either.

[Divine Discontent]

66. woops - you're talking about the Maher issue, and people taking fact in what the OP wrote without

any proof that Maher said it, but I'm not referring to Maher in my comment, I'm replying to another subject (and a specific post).



and about the Maher issue. If he never said it, or hinted at it, then I agree, how is this a real issue?

[instantkarma]

67. You didn't refer to anyone in your comment

and the thread is about what Maher supposedly said. The issue with me is the number of people who jumped on the "let's attack Maher" train based on someone lying about him (and Irish Central). I get what you're saying, and I was responding to the generality of your post and not the specific sub-thread.

[Divine Discontent]

68. Right, it shows my post is a reply to the one above it. And yes, people jump to conclusions without

seeing if things are accurately portrayed first.

[Hansel]

75. He's always been tiring to me. He has a self-righteous cynicism and

an over inflated ego that won't quit. If he was half as smart as he thinks he is he would be a lot funnier. But he always comes off to me as just a spiteful and hate filled little man.

I've always wanted to like him, but I can't watch for more than 5 minutes before I dismiss him as a jerk with the click of my remote.

[Splinter Cell]

31. He's a fuckin' idiot.

:thumbsdown:

[avaistheone1]

82. Fuckin' idiots continue Bush torture policies.

[Arkana]

33. Arkana: Bill Maher "Attention Whore Desperately Trying To Prove He's Still Relevant".

[Butch350]

34. Who cares what that WEED HEAD has to say.

IT'S ALL ABOUT RATINGS PEOPLE. He wants to keep his weed money rolling in.

[fujiyama]

35. Bill Maher: Worse than Jay Leno!

nt

[dionysus]

36. oh noes. my day is ruined.

[ibegurpard]

37. Like many others, Maher was willing to support him at first

He has been a disappointment on many fronts so far and failure to recognize that will mean we'll be seeing more Massachusetts repeats in the future.
He still has time to turn it around, though, and I think he may.

[RememberWellstone]

38. Pile on much Bill?

Fuktard...I guess the Santa Anna winds must be blowing right tonight? I am so tired of these bandwagons...we need to shoot all the passengers on the next one riding by.

[Hekate]

39. That does it. Bill Maher can kiss my rosy ass.

:argh:

Hekate

[LatteLibertine]

40. I'll continue to support President Obama and

he has largely been rhetoric. If he wants to impress me hit those Wall Street bonuses at 50% or greater, separate commercial banking from the Wall Street casinos, don't allow banks that don't loan to citizens to take taxpayer money, make it so no bank is "too large to fail". Break them puppies up. It wasn't going to happen before and now that the Supreme Court has rolled back restrictions on corporate spending on federal campaigns, the chances are yet smaller. I mean honestly they let these robber barons "borrow" from the American people at an interest rate of 5% or less? Meanwhile they are hitting people with 21% and up. Fvck them in the ass. I deplore them all.

He might want to get rid of the corrupt status quo around him too. Most of those folks CREATED the mess we are in.

[vaberella]

42. For me to say this says to me Bill Maher is not only a sexist ass but also ridiculously STUPID.

Obama has nothing to worry about.

[Aramchek]

43. Maher is funny sometimes, but a douchebag all the time

[Jeff In Milwaukee]

47. Know what we need? A Cheney Administration...

Just to remind douchebags the difference between Obama and the last eight years.

[zulchzulu]

50. Bill Maher is a self-absorbed pothead loner

I like some of his work, but generally he gets a big fat FAIL on his head from me.

To compare Obama to Cheney is the thought process of a zombie.

[Irish_shark]

55. Your title falsely states that the article says Maher said Obama is worse than Cheney

It doesn't.

[Cha]

56. maher is a sniveling jealous little prick.

[MrSlayer]

57. I'm not seeing where he is wrong on this.

Maher is dead on.

[WayneFrancis]

59. Where exactly did Maher say Obama was worse than Cheney?

Oh that's right HE DIDNT SAY THAT. I read the article about Maher's comments and then scanned the comments in here and am amazed at the idiotic knee-jerk reactions from DU forumers. Do any of you actually read things before posting?

I seriously doubt any of you have listened to Maher lately. He is on fire, and one of the last great liberals left.

[instantkarma]

60. Amazing isn't it? And typical

The goddamn lying op posts "worse than Cheney" when the blogger has zero quotes in the linked post. And then posters line up to take shots at Maher based on what a goddamned liar posted. That's what being sheep is all about. Stupid fucks. I see it on here too often.

[jgraz]

83. And you know that from now on, any time Maher makes an important political point

he'll be dismissed as "the guy who said Obama was worse than Cheney".

It's so transparent.

[win_in_06]

61. I often disagree with Maher but I have to admit:

1) He is hilarious
2) He does very well with the ladies, especially given his physical attributes. Of course being rich and famous helps, but I still am impressed.

[Writer]

71. And I think Bill Maher is "worse than Leno." n/t

[ShortnFiery]

73. Only in the areas of Marriage for Same Sex Couples and Legalization of Marijuana.

But those are no insignificant issues.

But no, not WORSE ... President Obama is still doing some major damage though ALMOST EQUAL to Cheney in the Foreign Affairs arena. :(

[bridgit]

76. I haven't watched Maher in years, maybe he wants to be a morning drive shock-jock

Like Rush Limbaugh or Ann Coulter :)