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Bucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-26-10 07:20 PM
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Poll question: Are you supportive of the real world?
Edited on Tue Jan-26-10 07:32 PM by Bucky
In reality, about 90% of Democrats support the president according to the latest poll. His drop in national support comes from moderate Republicans and somewhat less so from independents. On TV and the internets word is that we've already abandoned him en masse and will either kamikazi vote in Noam Chomsky in 2012 or will protest vote for the Republican in hopes of getting a new Democratic president in 2016 or are so discouraged that we can't even get off the couch and file for shovel ready project grants from the National Endowment for the Humanity's Homeland Security projects.

So it comes down to this--do you support reality or do you reject reality as the pale farce it's always been? If you can't answer this question, then, who's you're favorite Muppet?
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Jennicut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-26-10 07:26 PM
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1. If anyone believes that DU represents all Dems out there they are sadly mistaken.
Most people don't even know DU exists....or Free Republic. My mother in law voted for Obama and has no idea what DU is.
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Bucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-26-10 07:27 PM
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2. I envy her. I loathe my addiction to this place.
There is no 12 step group for what's wrong with me.
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Jennicut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-26-10 07:32 PM
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6. Me too. I left for a few weeks and then came back.
Edited on Tue Jan-26-10 07:32 PM by Jennicut
A break was needed though.
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Cali_Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-26-10 07:29 PM
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4. "Most people don't even know DU exists"
So true.
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bigwillq Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-26-10 07:39 PM
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9. Agree. DU is not reality.
I just laugh when some DUers blame the current political climate on DU or DUers. Someone blamed DU on Scott Brown winning a Senate seat in Mass. Yes, because it's all a message boards fault. :rofl:
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jonnyblitz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-26-10 07:45 PM
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12. yeah I read that in the BOG.
:crazy:
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bigwillq Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-26-10 08:12 PM
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17. I made a few posts
to the BOG! Quite the interesting forum.
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demmiblue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-26-10 07:29 PM
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3. Do you have a link?
I just got home, so I have no idea what this poll is all about.

TIA
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Drunken Irishman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-26-10 07:31 PM
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5. It's the new NBC poll. And only 27% of Americans blame Pres. Obama for the current shit-storm.
Most blame Republicans.
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demmiblue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-26-10 07:33 PM
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7. OK, I saw another post about an MSNBC poll...
but I didn't see a link with that either.

:shrug:
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Bucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-26-10 07:33 PM
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8. Hey, it's on the Internet! You know "The" Internet. How could it not be true?
So cynical, you kids these days.
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dave29 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-26-10 07:42 PM
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10. I wish I could buy you a beer... it seems like you need one
:)
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demmiblue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-26-10 07:52 PM
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15. A little slow, but point taken!
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lunatica Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-26-10 07:42 PM
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11. What does 'neither nor non...' mean?
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Bucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-26-10 07:47 PM
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13. It's a "your mileage may vary" option. If you're a fence sitter or a reality agnostic or...
Edited on Tue Jan-26-10 07:47 PM by Bucky
someone who just can't decide whether to sit on the fence or kick the reality can down the perceptual road, this is a one size fits all cop-out-from-copping-out snooze button on the alarm clock of life's little mixed metaphors. Get it?

No? Good, that's the point!

 
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lunatica Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-26-10 08:59 PM
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19. OK. I get it
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depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-26-10 07:51 PM
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14. I support educating people about what polling snapshots reflect (hint: it's not "reality"
Edited on Tue Jan-26-10 07:53 PM by depakid
or political dynamics).

Of course, that's an unorthodox position- though quite valid which is why people continually cite cheap polls supporting one thing or another- and then are baffled why they turn out to be anything but Gospel once actual reality sets in.
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Bucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-26-10 07:56 PM
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16. You sound like one of those "real-worlders". Bah. You might as well be a grown up.
I suppose you only expect "reasonable progress" from the Obama administration instead of instant liberal hegemony and pet unicorns by last Christmas.
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depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-26-10 08:20 PM
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18. Pretty simple, really
Edited on Tue Jan-26-10 09:14 PM by depakid
A lot of us would like to see public policy that's actually designed to measurably improve (or help solve) problems in a timely manner- which in turn leads to political gains for progressive Democrats.

Also, a lot of us would like to see the party of science actually listen to and follow the advice of people who study political and voter behavior- people like Professor's Westen and Lakoff, for starters. Ironically, it's all too often the party embracing fundamentalism that puts the principles into play. Thus- they manage to win the elections (and policy fight after policy fight) even when they're on the verge of having been relegated to the fringe for a generation.

One day someone may well write a great tragedy about all of this this- with the protagonist's hamartia in the present case being an unfortunate and irresistible predisposition toward conciliation and conflict aversion.
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