This proves how stupid some Americans are

[bigdarryl]

UNBELIEVABLE!!!http://publicpolicypolling.blogspot.com/2010/01/fox-leads-for-trust.html

[Xipe Totec]

1. And, do you believe that poll?

:evilgrin:

[wolfgangmo]

2. The problem with polls like that are:

First, without the polling data and polling procedures it is impossible to tell if it is valid. Examples to follow.

If it was a push poll, then it is BS because the wording is written to get the answer you want. (eg. to southern redneck voter - "did you know that John McCain has a black baby out of wedlock? Given that are you more likely to vote for McCain or Bush?")

If it was an online poll it is a simple matter for oldRushBalls to tell his chowderheaded listeners to stack the deck. Thus it is not valid.

If it favored a certain demographic it is biased. For example, if they only called affluent suburbs during the day they are most likely to get the retired or the stepford. Imagine the old man shaking his hand at kids on the street and yelling at them to stay off his lawn or a blank eyes peroxied blond whose entire lexicon consists of "yes, dear." Given those respondents you can count on a certain type of answer.

I don't beleive that poll, but Fox can keep paying for them if they want.

[Zywiec]

3. Do you believe these ratings?

Scott Brown's upset of Martha Coakley in Tuesday's Massachusetts special election spelled a major ratings boon for Fox News Channel.

The network saw its biggest night since Election Night 2008, averaging a staggering 6.161 million total viewers in primetime. For comparison, that's almost double CNN (1.503 million total viewers), MSNBC (1.138 million total viewers), and HLN (668,000 total viewers) combined.

Sean Hannity also set a personal record, anchoring his highest rated hour ever. In the 9PM hour (during which Bret Baier cut-in to announce the election results), Hannity averaged 6.809 million total viewers.

For the entire day, Fox News averaged 2.235 million total viewers, again besting CNN (809,000), MSNBC (484,000), and HLN (329,000) combined.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/01/21/fox-news-ratings-explode_n_431478.html

[depakid]

5. Ratings are a classic scam- woefully invalid, but the only metric available to price advertising

[Zywiec]

7. So what do you think the real numbers are since this is a scam? n/t

[depakid]

8. There aren't any! That's the point, they can't accurately (e.g. without serious statistical bias)

be measured- at least not without invading viewer privacy.

So the media corps are stuck with a bogus metric that doesn't really reflect the actual viewing behavior in the larger population.

[Zywiec]

9. I wanted to know what you think the numbers really are

Do you think more people are really watching Kieth Olbermann than Bill O'Reilly, or Rachel Maddow than Sean Hannity?

:shrug:

[depakid]

10. How would anyone know? I do know this

My old crap provider, comcast- removed MSNBC to a higher tier of service (which, considering what we pay in Oz was exorbitant- hell "basic" cable was exorbitant).

So there's a built in disadvantage in viewership out of the box.

The deal is that the stations sell time- and they have to have something like Nielsons and Arbitrons that are somewhere in the ballpark to justify their prices. Doesn't mean that they're accurate- especially in the narrow ranges used.

[ChimpersMcSmirkers]

14. Right, and I'd guess that those paying think they are reliable enough to use.

[customerserviceguy]

4. Where's the surprise?

It pretty much says that reich wingers trust Faux News, and distrust the major news organizations, while showing that progressives still trust those mainstream media outlets, and distrust Fox. That's standard conventional wisdom. When you factor in the number of people right now willing to ally themselves with the Repuke party, you have the result that shows Faux is more trusted in the aggregate.

Progressives are skeptical of mass media outlets, knuckle draggers are blindly loyal to crap-spewers that they feed on. When you poll a population as a whole, you're going to select for the true believers over the doubters any day.

[doc03]

6. I believe the poll everywhere I go Fox is on the TV,

doctors office, stores, restaurants and gym.

[Phx_Dem]

11. "Some" is being generous.

Alot more than some Ameircans are lazy, willfully ignorant, apathetic and narrowminded.

[TheKentuckian]

12. Fox has all the cons and cons trust nothing else but hate radio

They automatically win by having a lock on a block, it's not surprising at all. They've got the biggest and most locked in audience. You add in all the workers subject all day five days a week and they easily win.

Everyone else is left flipping between corporate media that best suits their taste in presentation.

[Suich]

13. That poll is bs!

http://www.dailykos.com/

Scroll down a tad.