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steve2470 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-29-10 12:29 PM
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Bipartisanship: Will President Obama ever give up on it ?
I was just listening to him now, talking to the House GOP Caucus about the need for bipartisanship. Yes, it's a great concept. Yes, it sounds great.

However, I think most of us seriously doubt that the Republicans will do it.

Is this concept part of his political DNA, or will he give up on that one day ?
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-29-10 12:30 PM
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1. much of this is for pubic consumption.
and it's an opportunity for him to school the pukesters.
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-29-10 12:33 PM
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4. +1
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wryter2000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-29-10 12:34 PM
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7. Lordy
I just spent a couple of paragraphs to say what you did in a couple of words. :applause:
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Lisa D Donating Member (317 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-29-10 12:37 PM
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9. Exactly.
It makes Obama look good. The republicans...not so much.
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Zenlitened Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-29-10 12:56 PM
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16. For the love of all that's good and decent in this world...
... PLEASE edit your subject line!

:rofl:

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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-29-10 01:01 PM
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21. now I've got to leave it
I can't stop laughing.

:rofl:

I really can't stop.
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Jeff In Milwaukee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-29-10 02:17 PM
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33. LOL!
Just Plain LOL!
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-29-10 12:31 PM
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2. you do not compromise with rabid dogs
he needs to give it up
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Windy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-29-10 12:45 PM
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13. He's putting them on the record on TeeVee...for low information citizens. Brilliant! nt
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-29-10 12:55 PM
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15. gawd, please
not the "chess" shit again
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-29-10 01:00 PM
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19.  delete
Edited on Fri Jan-29-10 01:00 PM by cali
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-29-10 01:01 PM
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20. I just cannot understand
WHY Obama even feels the need to compromise with the party that drove America off a cliff - it's obscene - he seems to care more about what they think than what WE think
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-29-10 01:09 PM
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22. all the world's a stage
it's pretty simple, I think. He's giving lip service to something that Americans put up there with apple pie and motherhood.

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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-29-10 01:30 PM
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26. I can see where the lip service really is
and I am fucking sick of it
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-29-10 01:51 PM
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29. lol.
words count.
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-29-10 01:52 PM
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30. they only count when they are followed by ACTION
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applegrove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-29-10 10:19 PM
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34. Yup. I called them a 'pack of wolves' today. The GOP is ruled by
the fear of rich people not getting tax cuts. And since most congressmen and senators are rich they fight like predators to undo anything Obama tries to build.
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-29-10 12:33 PM
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3. I think this is great today. He's speaking so reasonably, sincerely, openly and
it's being televised so the American people can SEE for themselves where the division is coming from.

I'm hopeful that showing this dialogue in the light will make the Repubs realize they can't spin BS any more.

If they do, I hope he just gives up on it and when they whine, show clips of this attempt on his part.


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Cosmocat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-29-10 02:15 PM
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32. He is simply doing the right thing ...
It isn't "strategy" ...

He genuniely is invested in doing what he said he would do in his campaign ...

Change the tone ...

He consistenly, relentlessly takes the high road and is making an ernest effort to get the loons to come along ...

The funny thing about life is, when you genuinely try to do the right thing, it generally works out for the best for you, no matter if it does not turn out exactly as you are trying to have it turn out ...

If the TRUE moderates see BO making a genuine effort, if they see that he is a good guy, and the Rs act like the morons they are acting like ... It is going to weigh out in his and OUR favor ...

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wryter2000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-29-10 12:33 PM
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5. I think it's worthwhile to continue to make the noises
First of all, the sheeple love it. You say "bipartisan," and all the pundits stroke their beards and the "independents" nod their heads. (Honestly, who these days doesn't know what side they're on?)

Second, telling Republicans to be bipartisan these days is a rebuke, especially after their obvious disdain for any kind of cooperation at the SOTU.
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RoadRage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-29-10 12:34 PM
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6. No.. nor should he.
Bi Partisianism isn't a bad word... and working together is, IMO a good idea. We sure wanted "Bi Partisism" when Bush & the Republicans ran the place and we were the minorty.. and soooo pissed that they didn't want to comprimise on anything. I guess now that the shoe is on the other foot, it's totally OK.

I don't like to be a hypocrite, and frankly right now this country is about as 50%/50% as it gets. Swinging full to one side and not allowing the other side any voice is a recipie to quickly lose the power you have IMO.
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phleshdef Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-29-10 12:34 PM
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8. No, he is the President of the United States which is a country that includes non-Democrats.
If you wish to revoke someone's citizenship for not being a member of the Democratic party, you will have to take that up with Congress.
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Phx_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-29-10 12:39 PM
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10. No, nor should he.
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still_one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-29-10 12:40 PM
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11. People who watch these can judge. It is also one person against many, and that he
has no problem standing up to that says everything


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Ozymanithrax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-29-10 12:40 PM
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12. He should not give up on it or quit calling for it...
But the House and Senate should act like it doesn't exist.
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high density Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-29-10 12:45 PM
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14. I don't doubt it's part of his DNA
But I hope for his own political survival and for the benefit of the country that he stops any serious belief that the Republicans will act in a bipartisan manner. It should be crystal clear their only motive is to stop anything he wants to do and dilute the results of anything that has a chance of passing. The GOP is owned by Limbaugh, Beck, and Hannity and there is no moderation in that message. Go ahead and put on a "bipartisanship" show for cameras and the voters, but ultimately we want to see shit get done. In the end people won't care who voted for something, but that it passed and had a positive effect on their lives.
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treestar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-29-10 12:58 PM
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17. Thanks to Mass. he needs it now
He did rebuke them for abusing the filibuster.

I don't see what's wrong with him saying this. The voters can then see that the Repukes do not listen to him and that they are to blame for nothing getting done.

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CakeGrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-29-10 12:59 PM
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18. He NEEDS to say this publicly, even if he really knows it's crap
Edited on Fri Jan-29-10 01:00 PM by CakeGrrl
Everyone should know by now that if he doesn't make a public overture to work together, the Repubs will use every opportunity to twist things.

Despite all the hair-pulling on this board about him wasting time reaching out, you see that the Republicans accuse him of doing the opposite every time they're asked in front of a live mic.

He needs to show the public that the Repubs are the problem. The televised address to the Republicans today was a good example.
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liberal N proud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-29-10 01:19 PM
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23. I doubt it
I think that The President is a romantic who believes that Democracy and bipartisanship can work.
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mscuedawg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-29-10 01:21 PM
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24. "doubt that the Republicans will do it" Perfect reason to continue on!!!!
Edited on Fri Jan-29-10 01:22 PM by mscuedawg
http://blogs.reuters.com/frontrow/2010/01/27/obama-plays-to-disaffected-audience-but-most-dont-blame-him/

Please are getting tired of the political pissing contests...and independents were a huge part of the 2009 election...Keep fighting Repukes...

Edited b/c I hit Post too quickly... :hi:
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Sugarcoated Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-29-10 01:24 PM
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25. Independents
independents independents

This is for them
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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-29-10 01:31 PM
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27. Right wing republicans only respect POWER. They see consensus building and
Edited on Fri Jan-29-10 01:33 PM by ShortnFiery
negotiations as "WEAK KNEED."

Despite (or maybe because of it) his super-high intellect, President Obama will not permit himself to believe the unvarnished truth: The present GOP leaders are right-wing and viscerally HATE everything that smacks of democracy.

Talking with the GOP is like conversing with orangutans: It serves no useful purpose.

Treat them like the creatures they are and show them STRENGTH. Give them options but only within a narrow window and WALK OVER THEM with regard to legislation if they won't cooperate.

Again, the republican party has NO adult supervision and must be treated, AT BEST, like juvenile delinquents. Show them respect but GIVE THEM STRUCTURE so when they "act out" there will be a price to pay.

Unfortunately, President Obama WILL NOT embrace the truth. Or perhaps, it's part of "the waltz" that his corporate overlords have orchestrated for "The Parties" to entertain us peasants so we will not openly revolt? You decide?

If President Obama stays on this same course, do NOT expect his tenure to be anything other than a "velvet glove" application of a Bush-Co. III Presidency.
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whistler162 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-29-10 01:31 PM
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28. I hope not.... he isn't a Repblican or a Republican wannabe
who thinks bipartisanship is a four letter word!
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steve2470 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-29-10 01:56 PM
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31. for the record, he does need to continue to try to reach out nt
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