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LiberalFighter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-29-10 07:23 PM
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Why would allowing individuals the ability to buy insurance out of state be good for them?
Aren't most insurance companies registered in most states?

Wouldn't the insurance company still base the rate on the locality of the insured?

How would the premiums be reduced?
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frazzled Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-29-10 07:25 PM
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1. Because it would be crappy cheap insurance from the most unregulated state
That's the idea ... all the insurance companies would move to Alabama, or wherever they are, and bilk people from other states out of their money for little to no coverage.
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LiberalFighter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-29-10 07:35 PM
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3. Then to avert that it should be required that insurance companies
operating outside the insured's state be regulated by the federal government.

Tag that to their amendment and see what they do.
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-29-10 07:29 PM
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2. If we regulated a minimum policy in every state
Then it would bring everybody up to decent insurance which would be good.

Of course that's not what the Repubs have in mind.
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housewolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-29-10 07:44 PM
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4. Increased competiton and larger markets
No, most insurance companies are not registered in all/most states. Some of the big ones are but there are dozens and dozens of insurance companiesm many registered in only small areas. Many areas of the country have access to only 1, 2 or maybe 3 different insurers, and they can offer as limited a list of choices and options as they want. And if they deny someone, there's nowhere else they can go.

So the purpose of eliminating the state boundaries is to open up competition and give consumers more choice. That's the benefit on the consumer side. On the insurer's side, it open the market of potential customers to them.

The downside is that each state currently regulate the insurers who can sell in their states. I'm not sure how the states and their insurance regulators would be affected if all insurance companies could sell in all states.



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KT2000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-29-10 08:45 PM
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12. the insurance companies
would base themselves in the states with the least regulation. They could then sell their insurance in all states and not need to follow the state regulations where their customers are located. It would essentially turn into an unregulated industry.
You can also be sure that states would compete with each other to draw those company headquarters to their states by eliminating those bothersome regs.
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DrToast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-29-10 08:47 PM
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14. Except there are federal regulations that they must meet
That's how it's set up in the health care bill.
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KT2000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-29-10 08:50 PM
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15. Oh - OK
I need to look that up because the state where I live (Washington) has good insurance regulations and usually good commissioners that actively enforce the regs.

Thanks for info
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DrToast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-29-10 08:57 PM
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17. You were right to be worried about that
The Republican plan was to let them sell across state line and be allowed to do whatever the hell the least regulated state would let them.
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wryter2000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-29-10 07:46 PM
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5. It wouldn't
The agrument is it would increase competition. (It's my understanding that in some states one or two companies have almost a monopoly.)

The problem is, they're all in collusion. They're never going to compete with each other when they can keep all their prices at the same high level.
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JamesA1102 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-29-10 07:52 PM
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6. We let the banks cross state lines. How did that turn out?
There are two reasons this is a bad idea.

1. All insurance companies would migrate to the state with the least regulations and consumer protections.

2. The big insurance companies could then buy up all the small ones and before you know it there will be about a handful of insurance companies that are 'too big to fail'.
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DrToast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-29-10 08:45 PM
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11. How has letting the states regulate insurance companies worked out so far?
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JamesA1102 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-29-10 09:32 PM
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19. Depends on what state you live in. nt
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tosh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-29-10 08:51 PM
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16. And...
If a customer or a provider has a complaint, who do they call?

To me it seems contrary to their (repugs') "smaller government" meme.

I guess they want it to go totally unregulated. Yeah, that ought to work.:shrug:
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doc03 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-29-10 08:08 PM
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7. deleted
Edited on Fri Jan-29-10 08:19 PM by doc03
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doc03 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-29-10 08:19 PM
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8. Why do Democrats oppose that, wouldn't that promote
competition and lower premiums?
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DrToast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-29-10 08:45 PM
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13. Democrats don't oppose that. It's part of the health care bill
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doc03 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-29-10 10:49 PM
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20. The Republicans have two main talking points
they want tort reform and insurance companies to be able to sell across state lines. If it is in the bill why haven't I ever heard a Democrat call them out on the issue?
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jmm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-29-10 08:35 PM
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9. I use to work for a MA based company that only offered RI insurance because it was cheaper.
Yeah, BC/BS is everywhere but I would've had to travel over an hour to see anybody in my network despite living on the same street as a hospital and a few health clinics. The one time I used it I lost my voice and essentially was forced to go to an emergency room for something that could've been treated there.
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stray cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-29-10 08:42 PM
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10. Many companies have virtual monopolies within a state - more competition less insurance control
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sohndrsmith Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-29-10 09:09 PM
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18. I don't know. But it seems rather medieval for someone to lose
coverage if they spend the summer in another state (or something). It seems some policies/companies have coverage when out of state, but that hasn't been my experience. Maybe I'm wrong, but if my child is covered by "Health Insurance of (State)", their copays don't apply when with me for the summer. Luckily, we haven't had any serious ER events, illnesses or injuries.

One of my kids is supposed to travel with a particular medication (the copay for which is $25 in state), but when the ex refuses to let my kid bring it along, my cost for getting it here is several hundred dollars. Doesn't make a lot of sense to me...

Are there insurance plans that cover one's health needs out of state without incurring extra cost? If that were the case, seems as though the "across state lines" would be a moot point, no?
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