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bigdarryl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-30-10 11:33 PM
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New Obama poll numbers WTF!!!
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Crazy Dave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-30-10 11:36 PM
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1. Well you got to understand...
Edited on Sat Jan-30-10 11:39 PM by Crazy Dave
After a year if you are still without a job, without healthcare, your pension is gone, CEOs still getting six digit bonuses and you still can't marry the person you love based on their gender, then speeches don't mean shit!

Oh yeah...

Gitmo

Iraq

oh "WTF?"
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Lil Missy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-30-10 11:37 PM
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2. Should see an uptick next week reflecting the spanking he gave the pukes yesterday.
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Blasphemer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-31-10 12:55 AM
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24. I'd imagine so. Polls are always behind the most current trends by a few days... nt
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spiritual_gunfighter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-01-10 12:17 PM
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33. Other than the people like us who follow this stuff
nobody cares about it.
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kstewart33 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-30-10 11:37 PM
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3. It's a daily poll and is subject to fluctuations by the day.
I wouldn't be too concerned. Gallup daily polls can move by 2-3 points in a day's time.
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quantass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-30-10 11:37 PM
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4. Well, what exactly has Obama DONE to justify higher numbers? Bernanke doesnt help the people n/t
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bigdarryl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-30-10 11:39 PM
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5. Presidents ALWAYS get an uptick in polling after the SOTU
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Crazy Dave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-30-10 11:41 PM
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11. It's because of short memories and low expections
We're now happy to hear "jobs saved" vs. jobs promised.
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Pirate Smile Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-31-10 12:02 AM
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19. Not really.
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Lorien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-30-10 11:39 PM
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6. Not surprised. Who got confirmed to the Fed again this week? nt
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-30-10 11:39 PM
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7. Even today's RASMUSSEN poll has him higher than that-he's at 49%!
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The_Casual_Observer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-30-10 11:41 PM
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8. The land of american idol is asked to judge Obama. What do you expect?
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Political Heretic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-30-10 11:43 PM
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13. Oh yes, its the peoples fault.
I know, I know, people are just to stupid to know that's best for themselves. We should just let the privileged intellectual and financial elite run everything, and leave those pesky ignorant ordinary folks out of it.
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The_Casual_Observer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-30-10 11:50 PM
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18. Aw come on, Obama isn't the second coming. He's making a hell of
an effort, he's working a bastard of a system. I am encouraged by that SOTU & I think deep down you are too.
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MannyGoldstein Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-30-10 11:41 PM
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9. Why Are You Surprised?
SOTU was a rehash of all of Obama's abandoned campaign promises - why should anyone believe him this time?... the ass-kicking he gave the Republicans yesterday has never been seen by Fox "News" watchers...

SOTU was an opportunity to do something new. It was a blown opportunity. Some of those who were hoping for signs of an end to the war against the middle class have given up.
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Political Heretic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-30-10 11:45 PM
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15. It's not a war against the "middle class" its a war against poor people.
I'm sick of the middle-class euphemism used frequently in reference to people with ridiculous levels of privilege.

Economist Michael Hudson has it right, when he wrote his book Merchants of Misery: How Corporate American Profits from Poverty.

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Kalun D Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-31-10 12:05 AM
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20. the HELL it isn't
"It's not a war against the "middle class" its a war against poor people."

wrong, it's a war on the middle class and poor people. To drive the middle class down and to keep the poor where they're at.

Don't know about anyone else but I'm middle class and my wages have been cut in half in the last 5 years.

Corporate America is profiting from sending middle class jobs to China, all that's left is subsistence service jobs. It's at or near poverty.
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Political Heretic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-31-10 04:04 PM
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31. Actually, your poor and calling yourself "middle class"
Half the problem right there.

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Kalun D Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-01-10 12:12 PM
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32. Then we're all poor
cuz I'm at or near the median for this area

but it's not quite poverty, yet
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gimama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-30-10 11:41 PM
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10. wth?
I need to study on that.. margin o' error,etc.
My 1st thought is it's skewed/screwed.. but the 'unfavorables' came up..
it just doesn't look 'right'.. I'm going to study on it, s'more.
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Political Heretic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-30-10 11:41 PM
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12. A year of trickle-down economic and social policy will do that to your numbers
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jefferson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-30-10 11:44 PM
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14. Gallup must've pulled a really shitty sample yesterday.
No way he dropped like that. Even Ras has him up significantly today. Chalk up this gallup result to "statistical noise".
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Political Heretic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-30-10 11:46 PM
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16. That must be it. *rolls eyes*
Yes, that would explain that trend line...

:eyes:
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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-31-10 12:32 AM
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23. Day after day, week after week, month after month of increasingly shitty polling samples
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Kalun D Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-31-10 12:24 AM
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21. A good week?
What planet are you on? The supreme court gives democracy to the fascist corps (or was that last week?), and Bernanke get's re-appointed to chief rape-and-pillager? One of the 2 biggest auto makers, Toyota, which has several factories and 100's of dealers in the US is taking a $BILLION dollar hit, is that going to help jobs?

speeches don't really mean a damn thing, especially when those giving them have proven that they don't deliver.

Individual polls are potentially skewed, an average of all polls is a better way to look at it.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/other/president_obama_job_approval-1044.html

In one year ObamaRahma's disapproval has gone from 20% to 47%, and he deserves every bit of it.

Obama talks the working man's talk and walks the corporate walk.
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Proud Liberal Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-31-10 12:25 AM
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22. That seems surprising to me as well
Edited on Sun Jan-31-10 12:26 AM by Proud Liberal Dem
However, the true impact of last week may not be felt and/or pay dividends immediately in terms of polling. I think that President Obama last week laid down the groundwork for some new and potentially lethal maneuvering against the "GnoP" and it will be interesting to see what happens. So far, I've personally never been anywhere near as disappointed in President Obama as I have been in our leadership in Congress, particularly in the Senate.
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DavidDvorkin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-31-10 09:34 AM
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25. Those aren't current numbers, though
The last one is for polling done Jan 25-Jan 27. First few days of last week.
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fugop Donating Member (901 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-31-10 09:36 AM
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26. That one includes Wed. sample, right?
Just curious. He might have pulled some bad numbers on Wed. night, due to supporters watching the SOTU. Today will be interesting, because today's number should have all post-SOTU numbers, right?
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Jennicut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-31-10 10:38 AM
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27. Uh, people, these #'s don't even have Thursday, Friday, Saturday and Sunday
in them. And it is a rolling poll. Like chill, please. Even Rasmussen shows a slight uptick. Gallup's #'s are the 25th to the 27th. Does that even show Wednesday night? Or was polling done before the SOTU? Sometimes I just want to bang my head against the keyboard.
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Honeycombe8 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-31-10 10:40 AM
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28. That's for December 2009. nt
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onenote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-31-10 10:55 AM
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29. No, its for Jan 25-27. The SOTU was the evening of Jan 27, so it may not be reflected
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timeforpeace Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-31-10 03:32 PM
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30. It's so nerve racking to live for the moment like this.
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