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Hutzpa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-25-10 11:27 PM
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After today, I call a spade a spade
IT IS OVER, HEALTH CARE FOR AMERICA IS HERE. GET IT DONE!


Kaboooosh!!


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johnaries Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-26-10 12:34 AM
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1. Question for my AA friends. Do you consider "calling a spade
a spade" as having racist roots? I always thought it meant "calling a shovel a shovel" (som other white friends of mine thought the same), until an AA friend of mine pointed out that "spade" used to be a derogatory racist term.

I am sure the OP thought of it in terms of a "shovel".
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-26-10 12:42 AM
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2. I personally know how to separate the two.......
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SoFlaJet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-26-10 01:11 AM
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7. Color ME confused
I thought he was talking about people here in Alcoholics Anonymous
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Alcibiades Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-26-10 12:43 AM
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3. Um, no.
The phrase originates with a mistranslation by Erasmus, long before the term "spade" became a racist epithet. Read more at link.

http://verbmall.blogspot.com/2006/05/mistakenly-racist-terms.html
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Ter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-26-10 01:27 AM
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8. How about tit-for-tat?
Every time I hear it, I think boobies.
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rug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-26-10 08:04 AM
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13. When I see inked cleavage I think tat-for-tit.
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JoePhilly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-26-10 08:22 AM
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14. I've always liked "walking abreast" ...
When I was a kid I thought that phrase meant something else entirely.
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Yavin4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-26-10 10:28 AM
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17. To Quote Benny Hill
"Tat! Tat! Tat!"
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Hutzpa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-26-10 12:54 AM
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4. Pass over
my apologies to your friends all round and this day shall be known as
calling a diamond a diamond.

Where I'm from they shovel diamonds instead of snow...}(
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CakeGrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-26-10 12:58 AM
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5. No. I know when a saying is used and when a slur is intended. n/t
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Hekate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-26-10 01:10 AM
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6. As opposed to referring to it as a personal digging implement? One is stuffy, the other's colloquial
... British; neither is racist.

The "other" meaning has its origins in a suit of playing cards, as in "The Ace of..."

Hekate
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Ghost Dog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-26-10 07:43 AM
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12. In UK usually refers to people from Yorkshire:
Edited on Fri Feb-26-10 07:45 AM by Ghost Dog
who have a reputation for clear-sightedness, warts and all, and say what they think, with few circumlocutions. eg. "Where there's muck there's brass".

Ie. Straight-talking. Honest.

Or, as we say in Spain: "sin pelos en la lengua" ;)
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Hekate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-26-10 10:38 AM
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18. Didn't know about Yorkshire, but did figure it had to do with straight talk. TY for the info
:hi:
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Oregone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-26-10 03:56 AM
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9. Just because someone drinks, it doesn't mean they are experts in racial issues
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goclark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-26-10 03:59 AM
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10. Not a problem for me ~ I'm AAmerican

Spade is a pretty old term.

I would say not a problem unless someone meant it to be hurtful.
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win_in_06 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-26-10 09:35 AM
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16. Let's put it this way...
...if Harry Reid had said that, he'd have some 'splainin' to do.
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Imagevision Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-26-10 05:12 AM
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11. Did Obama make a deal with the Ins. companies?
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REACTIVATED IN CT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-26-10 08:54 AM
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15. I always thought it referred to the spade on a playing card
(I'm not AA)
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