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flpoljunkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-26-10 07:45 AM
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Krugman: So what did we learn from the summit?
So what did we learn from the summit? What I took away was the arrogance that the success of things like the death-panel smear has obviously engendered in Republican politicians. At this point they obviously believe that they can blandly make utterly misleading assertions, saying things that can be easily refuted, and pay no price. And they may well be right.

But Democrats can have the last laugh. All they have to do — and they have the power to do it — is finish the job, and enact health reform.

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/02/26/opinion/26krugman.html

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tekisui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-26-10 07:46 AM
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1. "They have the power to do it" I'll believe it when I see it.
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Vinca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-26-10 07:59 AM
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3. But do they have the spine?
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lamp_shade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-26-10 07:53 AM
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2. EXCELLENT !!
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Jennicut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-26-10 08:00 AM
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4. Finish the job. Rethugs want to "start over", in other words make sure it never passes.
We have the majority. We don't need a supermajority.
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Rosa Luxemburg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-26-10 02:27 PM
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10. Republicans want a completely private healthcare system
this reform upsets their (corporate masters') ideas.
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mod mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-26-10 08:12 AM
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5. Facts don't matter to them so FINISH THE JOB! Interesting NPR story on this:
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=124008307

Regarding climate Crisis your worldview beliefs matter more than facts. :mad: these people are dangerous, so move ahead w/o them.
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depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-26-10 08:31 AM
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6. "the success of things like the death-panel smear"
"Swift boat" "Willy Horton" "where's the beef"

Sooner or later, maybe the Democratic "leadership" will learn the lesson- if not this year, then in years to come.
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Supersedeas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-26-10 02:35 PM
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12. and the corporate media plays right along -- Big Oil/Pharma Ad $$ make it happen
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Jennicut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-26-10 02:37 PM
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13. I agree with you on that. Things stick if they are said enough times
with a complicit media and if you don't fight back against the lies hard enough.
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Kahuna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-26-10 08:44 AM
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7. What I saw was a political, rope-a-dope. Obama kept stressing that
the repukes were in agreement with key aspects of the bills on the table. The repukes also agreed that there was some agreement. So, what is the take-away for viewers? If the repukes are in agreement with the majority of the proposals, why won't they vote for the legislation? Apparently, they ARE just the party of no.
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DrDan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-26-10 08:52 AM
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8. he makes a great point about repubs - proven daily by pigboy and inSanity listeners
"At this point they obviously believe that they can blandly make utterly misleading assertions, saying things that can be easily refuted, and pay no price. And they may well be right."
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-26-10 02:25 PM
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9. The corporatemediaWHORES COVER for their gop
politicians.

We should be storming or at least contacting the "media".

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Phx_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-26-10 02:35 PM
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11. The CNN toadies probably choked on their Cheerios this morning,
after cheering about how well the Republicans did. Problem is, the talking head toads on cable were the only ones who thought that.

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mstinamotorcity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-26-10 02:55 PM
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14. Well in a sense
they have just about completed the task of health care reform.The bills have already passed the house and senate and has been merged,all that has to happen is for the house to vote on the senate version and let the president sign it and then tweak it in budget reconciliation.And when they do it under budget reconciliation that is when they can put in the public option if they want to.And that is where they can adjust any problems.So don't worry our President got this with our help calling our reps in the house and urge them to pass the bill and fix it in reconciliation.
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