Call your senator/representative: tell them NO to a mandate & NO bill without a strong PO

[brentspeak]

NO billions of taxpayer dollars to fund insurance company crooks.

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[brentspeak]

4. Read the OP again

[ShortnFiery]

2. Yes. Remember how we were screwed when we were TOLD to take TARP on good faith?

The House will pass a POOR Senate Bill and there will be NO RECONCILIATION VOTES.

Just MANDATES and gifting to Big Pharma and the Insurance Cartel.

Tell Congress (Especially the House) to take NOTHING on "good faith."

[ProSense]

3. Senator Franken has a response to this OP

FAIL!

The wonky-sounding medical loss ratio issue can be counted among Franken’s wins in his short tenure. Sen. Sherrod Brown (D-Ohio) said Franken “educated the whole caucus well” on how Minnesota successfully limited how much money health insurers could spend on administrative costs, advertising and profits.

The Senate-passed bill includes a Franken provision, co-authored by Sen. Jay Rockefeller (D-W.Va.), that would require insurance companies to use 85 percent of customer premiums on medical costs.

But Franken’s big push has been on the public insurance option, a controversial liberal priority that dominated the debate last year and caused Republicans to charge that it was the first step to socialized medicine.

Franken said he supports health care legislation that does not include the public option, but he said the public option is still his preference for reform. He signed on to a letter penned by Sen. Michael Bennet (D-Colo.) pushing for the public option through budget reconciliation rules that would allow the Senate to sidestep a GOP filibuster.

“I really think the public option is the right thing to do. Now, whether we can get it through reconciliation is a whole other story,” Franken said. “I know that Sen. Jay Rockefeller is someone who’s for the public option but doesn’t think that it will be able to go through reconciliation because, I think, of the rules. It doesn’t fit under the rules. I think it does, but we’ll see.”

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[WonderGrunion]

6. Kick and unrec. Yes to covering 30 million Americans and reducing costs

n/m

[brentspeak]

8. You meant to say, "Yes to bankrupting tens of millions of Americans and increasing costs..."

"..with our tax dollars. Just like Obama shamelessly, without any hint of conscience, enriched billionaire bankers with our tax dollars."

[WonderGrunion]

11. What I meant to say would get deleted.

Your spin on what President Obama is accomplishing will not be borne out by history.

[prolesunited]

20. Yes, because the millions of uninsured

aren't already going bankrupt or dying.

Where do you get these figures about reform bankrupting tens of millions of Americans?

[Autumn]

7. I already have

:kick:

[stray cat]

9. Who is volunteering to pay for those who demand medical help but don't buy insurance?

[brentspeak]

13. Who's dumb enough to volunteer to fork over their hard-earned tax $ to insurance co's?

And who's dumb enough to volunteer to keep the entire corrupt insurance industry propped up?

[jenmito]

10. Unrec. Healthcare stocks fell today after Obama's speech. n/t

[CTLawGuy]

12. I hope the people who whine about the mandate

didn't support Edwards or Clinton in the primary...

[brentspeak]

14. Obama. Mandates. Primary.

http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/columns/Obama-offers-the-insurers-their-Holy-Grail-8223886-58597912.html">Obama opposed an individual mandate on the campaign trail -- it was a sticking point between him and Hillary Clinton, who backed it.

[jenmito]

15. Edwards supporter. Mandates. Hypocrite.

[CTLawGuy]

19. point:

Jenmito.

clap clap clap

:)

[CTLawGuy]

16. not what I said

I realize he wasn't in favor of the mandate. It seems that everyone else in Congress IS in favor of it, because there is no credible plan that doesn't have it.

Again, hope mandate whiners didn't support Hillary or Edwards.

[brentspeak]

17. Does this mean you voted Obama because you knew he was lying?

If that was the case, your vote for him in the primary made sense and you ended up being correct.

[CTLawGuy]

18. nope

I voted for him in the primary because I thought he could get something done, because a "bold" plan that can't get passed is useless to everyone. I hope you are not someone who is now cynically whining about a mandate after supporting a candidate that was in favor of the mandate.

I was opposed to the mandate because I thought it was unnecessary. I couldn't imagine anyone intentionally not wanting to buy insurance. I saw the problem as people not being able to get insurance (and thus health care) and not that the insurance companies are evil and need to be punished.

If everyone who has a say in this seems to agree that a mandate is needed, I don't give a shit, and I don't care that Obama is not going to veto the bill over it.

But hey the Republicans are against this "corporate giveaway bill", maybe THEY are the progressives.

[pampango]

21. Don't have to. My congressman is a republican, so I know he's voting "NO". One of my senators is

also a repub (Voinovich), so there's another "NO" vote. I suppose if I want to ensure the bill dies, I should contact Sherrod Brown because he voted "YES" on the Senate bill in December.