**** Heads Up: POTUS Rails Against the Evil Insurance Overlords, 11am EST! ****

[Clio the Leo]

(because half of y'all didn't like the "Speaks on Health Insurance Reform" title the WH used last week, I tweaked it a bit :) )

Video...
http://www.whitehouse.gov/live/president-obama-speaks-health-insurance-reform

http://www.cnn.com/video/flashLive/live.html?stream=stream1

http://cspan.org/Watch/C-SPAN.aspx


And On CSPAN (television.)

Excerpt from his speech...

"Every year, insurance companies deny more people coverage because they have a pre-existing condition. Every year, they drop more people’s coverage when they’re sick and need it most. Every year, they raise premiums higher and higher. Just last month, Anthem Blue Cross in California tried to jack up rates by nearly 40%. In my home state of Illinois rates are going up by as much as 60%. And you just heard from Leslie, who was hit with a 100% rate increase. 100%. One letter from her insurance company and her premiums doubled. Just like that."

http://www.politico.com/politico44/wbarchive/whiteboard03082010.html

He will be showcasing one of the victims of high insurance premiums. This woman was told last year that her premium would double. If she did NOT pay the higher premium, her deductible would go from $500 to $5,000.
http://twitter.com/WestWingReport/status/10175195213

[Clio the Leo]

1. Crowd shouting....

"What do we want?" "HEALTH! CARE!"

"When do we want it?" "NOW!!!!"

[daa]

106. All screaming until they find it it is

the same old Obama, for the same old Senate plan to cut Medicare. Yeah, cut that Medicare NOW.

[cliffordu]

114. Bogus posit, but thanks for playing!!!

You should buy a better brand of misinformation, that shit you got stinks like a corpse.

[Jennicut]

2. I like that title MUCH better.

:)

[Clio the Leo]

3. Oh! We have clapping!!!

.... Pres. Clinton is, as usual, running late. :)

[Clio the Leo]

4. ... cameras hoisted into the air. NT

[Clio the Leo]

5. Mrs. Banks speaking now. NT

[Clio the Leo]

6. Is divorced, single mom with daughter in college. No health issues. NT

[Clio the Leo]

7. Talks about premium going up...

... both hers and her daughters. (to approx $800 a month.)

[Clio the Leo]

8. company was gouging EVERYONE.... across the board. NT

[Clio the Leo]

9. Says we must create fair checks and balances....

... audience applaudes.

[Clio the Leo]

10. Must be a priority regardless of party affiliation to reform HC NOW! NT

[Clio the Leo]

11. POTUS up now. NT

[Clio the Leo]

12. navy blue tie .... crowd goes wild. NT

[Clio the Leo]

13. they love him .... he loves them back .... he's "kinda fired up!" NT

[Clio the Leo]

15. Congratulates Gov. Rendel for keeping his cholesterol down. NT

[Clio the Leo]

16. Huge applause for Sen Specter. NT

[Clio the Leo]

17. Slightly fewer applause for Sestak. NT

[Clio the Leo]

20. Takes off jacket .... says he's warm....

... people start throwing money at him (kidding.)

[jenmito]

14. It's also on MSNBC, CNN, and C-Span.

[vaberella]

18. Why are the usual suspects here? Great post. n/t

[Clio the Leo]

23. busted!

You like how I shut their "WHY IS IT HEALTH INSURANCE REFORM!!!? WAHHHHHH!" meme down? ;)

[babylonsister]

19. It's a cryin' shame he's so unpopular. nt

[Clio the Leo]

21. yep, we should impeach him for lack of charisma. NT

[jenmito]

22. They go crazy when he takes off his jacket.

:D

[Clio the Leo]

24. Talks about how politics in DC is a spectator sport....

.... ehhhh :think:

[Clio the Leo]

25. "Folks aren't worried about politics, they're worried about their next paycheck."

This is a continuance of "I dont know if it's popular, I just know it's RIGHT" line from last week.

[Clio the Leo]

26. "We dont give up, we dont quit, that's who we (Americans) are." NT

[Clio the Leo]

27. Price of health care one of the most punishing costs for families and gvt. NT

[Clio the Leo]

28. plunging us deeper and deeper into debt. NT

[Clio the Leo]

29. "Those of you who are young think you're invincible.... but when you turn 48..." NT

[Clio the Leo]

30. "We need to pass HCR NOW!!" ... give people back control. NT

[Clio the Leo]

31. "I was warned this would hurt my poll numbers...."

... "told not to do it now.... if not now when? When is the right time?"

[Clio the Leo]

32. Is reading a biography of TR now. NT

[polichick]

33. His words would be more meaningful if the WH was actually trying to...

...dismantle this corrupt system by boldly fighting for a very robust public option, instead of funneling millions more customers to them. As it is, he's just "tweaking it a bit" too.

[gkhouston]

46. Word. Without competition or stiff regulation to keep prices down, the insurance

companies will eat us alive. They're already doing it. And I'm thinking introducing competition will be more feasible than creating and enforcing meaningful regulation.

[polichick]

109. I agree - competition is the key! nt

[truedelphi]

112. + 1. n/t

[Clio the Leo]

34. "The GOP wants to focus on costs ... well you had 10 years!! Why didn't you?" NT

[zipplewrath]

35. When will he be proposing HCR?

I see he's busy pushing his Health Insurance Industry Stimulus Package.

[Clio the Leo]

39. what are doctors and nurses doing wrong?

... that they need to be reformed?

[zipplewrath]

97. Costing too much

Basically they cost too much. To a great degree this is because of the "fee for service" model under which they work. In a single payer, or similar plans, they don't have to work in that environment.

[vaberella]

36. Obama is totally on the attack. I've never seen so much sarcasm. ^_^ n/t

[Clio the Leo]

38. snarky snarky! gotta love it. NT

[Clio the Leo]

37. points out Anthem raising premiums 40%, asks if anyone's pay check has gone up that much. NT

[Clio the Leo]

40. Insurance Cos will continue to do this...

.... they've told their investors they're in it for the money.

[Clio the Leo]

41. "When's the right time?" Crowd shouts "NOW!"

[babylonsister]

He is fired up today, and is getting the crowd going! nt

[otohara]

42. Demonizing The Insurance Companies

Keep it up POTUS, keep it up.

[Clio the Leo]

43. Talks about Mrs. Canfield....

... who wrote the letter that he read to the Insurance execs last week.

And then a story about a cancer survivor who, despite having insurance, now has tens of thousands of $$ of debt.

[Clio the Leo]

44. Mocks the GOP "we'll take baby steps?" crowd: "BOOOOO!!!!!"

[Clio the Leo]

45. "Both parties have found areas where we agree...."

"and what we've ended up is a proposal that is in the middle, takes best ideas from both parties."

[Clio the Leo]

47. crowd boos the notion of relaxing insurance co. regulations

.... that he says the GOP was suggesting.

[Donnachaidh]

48. rails against the evil insurances, but MANDATES we have to buy from them

and makes the IRS there collection thugs.

E. Gantry would be proud! :sarcasm:

[Clio the Leo]

52. Why do you want sick children to continue to suffer?

(again ... has been moved to Monday...)

[dave29]

75. +8000

.

[denimgirly]

107. Mandates with no real cost control is not smart.

[Donnachaidh]

110. fearmongering -- the last gasp of the spin doctor.

Turdblossom would be proud of you. :eyes:

[Clio the Leo]

49. Apparently, if you like your plan, you can keep it.

good to know. :)

Says as the father of two girls, he doesn't want to interfere with a families relationship with their doctor.

[uponit7771]

50. Not good enough for the haters

[Clio the Leo]

51. Says insurance cos will be banned FOREVER from denying coverage...

.... to sick children.

[gkhouston]

70. Oh, they'll "cover" the child... but not the procedure or some of the meds the child

needs because they're investigational or not medically necessary. Or they'll cover the child but the premiums will be so astronomical that virtually no one can afford them. If the insurance companies don't have special teams thinking up new ways to deny these special populations coverage in the future, it's only because they're confident that their current methods will be sufficient. Until someone is providing health insurance on a non-profit basis, I don't expect that situation to change.

[Clio the Leo]

53. Young adults will be able to stay on parents policy until age 26...

.... the college age crowd loves it.

[Better Today]

54. More speecifying. Well whooptif'ingdo! He called out the bankers too

and it accomplished nothing. Does he really think all those rich, white, old men give a fuck about his stupid little tongue lashings?

If he wants to make a difference, then lower the age for Medicare or force the PO through. He's not only not doing either, his administration is trying to squelch both,. . oh, yeah, but he promises to fix it later. . . all talk no action.

[Clio the Leo]

58. whooptif'ingdo!

Oh! YOU CUT me to the bone!

LA DEE DA!!!!

[Better Today]

71. If you think my comment is about you, you need to re-read. Not one mention of you in it at all.

[Clio the Leo]

93. I KNOW it wasn't about me....

... it was about the same old tired drivel that sounds like it's being sponsored by the GOP and does nothing to help matters.

AND WE ARE TIRED OF IT.

But if you need to vent, feel free .... KEEP ON KICKING THIS THREAD MY FRIEND! ;)

[dave29]

78. SWEET SASSY MOLASSY!!!

LOL

[Clio the Leo]

94. Great GOOGLEY MOOGLEY! NT

[Raine1967]

55. GO CLIO!

:kick:

YOU just got me fired up and ready to go this morning! :D

[Clio the Leo]

57. ....

<---- is ALSO fired up!

(which is good, because I have a lot of work to do today lol)

[Clio the Leo]

56. talks about the exchanges...

... "if it's good enough for Congress, it should be good enough for the people paying their salary."

[Clio the Leo]

59. "Our plan is paid for ...."

"and the money paid in would go back to those who cannot afford coverage."

[Clio the Leo]

60. "My proposal would bring down the cost for millions....." NT

[Clio the Leo]

62. "Lamar Alexander is a goober head..."

(paraphrasing) :)

[DrToast]

96. LOL...I wish he did say it just like that.

[still_one]

61. The pre-existing clause won't kick in for at least 5 years. Isn't that wonderful? NOT /nt

[Clio the Leo]

63. The Medicare donut disappears immediately. Children could not be denied immediately...

... why do you have children and senior citizens? :)

[still_one]

68. What about those who have pre-existing condition, and can't wait 4 or 5 years /nt

[Clio the Leo]

79. lol, do you think their wait will be shorter if the bill doesn't pass? NT

[still_one]

86. Pre-existing conditions should be a basic right. Why would anyone want to delay that?

In fact, that does have the votes to pass in reconciliation

[democrat_patriot]

64. 5 years or NEVER. Hmmm. You're right let's bitch

about it and get nothing.

[jefferson_dem]

69. Whiny idiocy abounds.

"I don't get all of what I want ... RIGHT NOW... So I don't want ANYTHING right now!" Whhaaaaa...

[still_one]

76. People will die in 5 years because they have pre-existing conditions. yeah whinny. Obviously you

you don't have to worry

[Clio the Leo]

85. What we DONT have to worry about....

... are those who want to FIGHT change.

This train is about to come ROARING into the station .... you can be there to greet it or not .... but it's still coming.

[still_one]

88. if I can't get insurance I may not be there /nt

[jefferson_dem]

92. You will be better able to get care with than without this plan in place.

That's not even arguable. Consider the alternative - which is nothing.

[thereismore]

103. Then just get insurance already! How's that working out for you? nt

[jefferson_dem]

89. They will continue to die far beyond the five year window if the "kill the billers" have their way.

Let's see. Which is worse - five years versus a generation plus?

...Not sure I buy your stipulation on the five-year delay in implemention of protection from discrimiation for pre-existing anyway.

[still_one]

72. You think it will happen in 5 years? How many people who have pre-existing conditions

will be injured by this

[Clio the Leo]

65. "The American people deserve an up or down vote."

"the time for talk is OVER!"

(crowd roars applause)

[Clio the Leo]

66. "I need you to knock on doors, talk to your neighbor!"

get into political arguments at work (paraphrasing)

[Clio the Leo]

67. "I need you TO CALL DC!" NT

[Clio the Leo]

73. "Mitch McConnel thinks this will be bad for Democrats..."

"But I generally wouldn't take advice about what's good for Democrats from him."

[Clio the Leo]

74. "But the issue is not about politics!"

[Clio the Leo]

77. "This is not hard .... what Lesley is going through is hard." NT

[Clio the Leo]

80. "We were sent to DC to do what was hard!"

Crowd roars to its feet.

[Clio the Leo]

81. Shouts: "I dont know how passing this will play politically, but I DO know this is the right thing!"

[Clio the Leo]

82. "Let's SEIZE reform! It's IN OUR GRASP!!!"

"Thank you everyone! Got Bless you!"

[Clio the Leo]

83. ~ Done ~ NT

[Change Happens]

84. I will be calling my Senator's office (only 1 id a Dem), and my Congressman!!!

[Clio the Leo]

90. you're lucky....

... Lamar Alexander is my Senator ... and Bob Corker the other.

My rep went on national TV and said affordable health care was a privilege and not a right.

Tell your Senator to do it for us in Tennessee too!

[Change Happens]

91. You need to move.....!

[Clio the Leo]

95. No....

... I need to run for office. :)

[Clio the Leo]

87. THE CROWD IS SCREAMING!!!!

.... MAN ... I wish I had some of what he's got.

[AllentownJake]

98. Yawn...

Wake me up when he talks about the real crisis that is about to spring up.

[Clio the Leo]

99. WAKE UP!!!!

.... do I need to poke you with my stick?



(it's been moved to Monday, wasn't sure if you'd heard)

[AllentownJake]

101. This is meaningless

There is a debt bomb sitting on the books of every bank in the world, everytime the FDIC seizes a bank the assets are 25% to 40% overvalued and they are still siezing things at very consistent rate.

They are hoarding cash to prepare for it and the only institution that is lending is the federal government.


Health Insurance :boring:

[cornermouse]

100. I kind of feel like we've been over these before...

1. People can't afford the mandatory part of this. That's a fact that no amount of spinning will change.
2. People will be forced to pay for it anyway thereby obliterating their already paper thin discretionary spending which will in turn impact on the economy due to less consumer spending and in the end making sure job growth simply will not happen.
3. The insurance bill that they've been working on will put everyone in today's showcased victim's shoes.
4. This bill will result in the democratic party giving their seal of approval to more or less ending abortions through a side door tactic. See Moyer's Journal last Friday night.
http://www.pbs.org/moyers/journal/03052010/watch4.html
"If any health care reform emerges from the bonfire of partisanship and dissembling in Washington, one thing seems certain -- it will be incorrigibly biased against a woman's freedom of conscience when it comes to abortion.

She will be ever more subject to the state's control and ever more at the mercy of religious doctrine to which she may or may not subscribe. In this respect, both reform bills in the House and Senate differ only slightly. Each is tough on women."

[dflprincess]

102. Yes, the insurance companies are evil and dishonest

but we must keep them in the loop and embed them even further by mandating payments to them.

[freddie mertz]

104. There is a lack of coherent strategy and messaging. And it continues. nt.

[ShortnFiery]

105. Too bad The Administration is "in bed" with the Insurance Cartel and Big Pharma.

Can we say "smoke and mirrors?"

[denimgirly]

108. +10,000

[philly_bob]

111. I saw it on CSPAN. He had the old fire, the crowd loved him.

For the first time in a while, I'm optimistic for 2010 election after seeing him connect with the crowd. He asked them to stand up with him against the Tea Partiers' disinformation and the insurance company abuses.

He's got his campaign issue!

And it ain't bipartisanship.

In a debating sense, which side would you rather take: the insurance companies and the tea-baggers or the long list of Americans harmed by insurance company abuses?

The question is, who else in his administration can make a speech like that? Joe Biden, probably.

(copied from another duplicate thread)

[ibegurpard]

113. And what are you going to do about it?

oh, make us buy their product!
of course it will be REGULATED...and we all know how that turns out don't we?

[denimgirly]

115. How many more Contracted Media Junkets for the Industry is Obama obligated to do?

Does the health industry have any more stops for Obama before the big vote or are his contracted obligations complete?

[emsimon33]

116. Actions speak louder than words. Let's see some real action.