Eric Massa to Rip Democrats on Glenn Beck’s Fox News Show

[jefferson_dem]

:eyes: Any sympathy this guy was getting should zoom out the window right now.

Eric Massa to Rip Democrats on Glenn Beck’s Fox News Show
By David Weigel 3/8/10 1:39 PM

Rep. Eric Massa’s (D-N.Y.) scorching attack on Democrats — while a lot of attention is going to a silly story about Rahm Emanuel, he accuses his party of trying to “shove the bill down our throats” — will be amplified tomorrow with a full-hour interview on Glenn Beck’s Fox News show.

In roughly 12 hours, Massa has changed his narrative from “congressman resigning in disgrace” to angry, Howard Beale-esque truth-teller who’d simply had enough and will take his party to the woodshed. Left unsettled: the incredibly important issue of whether he’ll resign today, as he said he would, or he’ll try to bring down the health care bill by staying in Congress.



http://washingtonindependent.com/78652/eric-massa-to-rip-democrat-on-glenn-becks-fox-news-show

[Clio the Leo]

1. lol, SOMEBODY's NOT HAPPY!!!!

uh oh ....... should be interesting.

[TheWraith]

2. Good money says he beats Beck senseless while he's there too. nt

[Tom Rinaldo]

8. I think so also

Yes it is legitably controversial to appear on that show, but if Beck goes through with giving the interiew a full hour, Beck may well regret it in hindsight. My hunch is that Beck fancies himself as a lion tamer who can exploit an hour spent in a cage with Massa Lion tamers have been eaten for less.

[Cosmocat]

48. all due respect ...

You're a good dem, and you obviously have seen something in him and are supporting him to the hilt ...

But, Massa is CLEARLY off the rails here ...

[Tom Rinaldo]

51. Thanks. I certainly wouldn't have advised him to do that show...

Massa would need to dominate Beck and make a lot of good progressive points that Beck can't answer while Massa dominates Beck, in order to justify this decision, IMO. That's a very tall order and a big risk to furthering a progressive agenda that Massa has taken on with this move. Given the built in political negatives associated with giving Beck any positive publicity, it is a risk I wish Massa wasn't taking to go on that show. But in my experience of him Massa might have the chops to pull off something positive out of this. Fingers crossed but right now I think it was a bad move.

[frazzled]

3. Well, that sounds about right for this ex-Republican who won in a republican district

And don't tell me how progressive he is, because he hasn't been in Congress long enough to build an accurate record. Voting against the HOUSE health care bill was unforgiveable, in my view: he gets to say it wasn't "progressive" enough (even though it was pretty damned good) and sell his no vote to his conservative constituency at home as a pure no vote.

He's changed his story six times since the news broke on Friday, and it looks as if there is a lot of fire under that smoke that's rising.

How dare he go squealing to Fox News trying to turn this on the Democrats.

[FrenchieCat]

7. I hadn't thought of that, but it is odd

that coming from a Republican district, he would vote NO on the HealthCare Bill stating that it wasn't progressive enough......and then until recently, was going to be running for re-election?
I like Eric Massa, and he was supported much by the "Wes Clark" supporters both runs he made (the first unsuccessful), but to believe that he voted against health care because it wasn't progressive enough, considering that his district would be made up much of folks who were against HCR because it was "a government takeover" does not compute well. This is quite strange. :shrug:

[Tom Rinaldo]

9. It's standard practice for Massa, Frenchie

When he ran last time he went around his district calling himself an FDR Conservative. He doesn't think a progressive agenda is radical, he thinks it is common sense basic Americana. Eric was called the Everready Bunny inside his district because of the blitz of meet the public events he went to. He ran as a stand up guy who will tell you what he thinks and do what he says. That was his secret to winning in a Republican district. I atttended some of those meetings. Eric impressed enough people one to one with his no nonesense no double talk straight forward stances. He defended liberal positions in working class language, and people respected him for that. Compared to the last mealy mouthed Republican who held that seat Massa was a breath of fresh air.

[FrenchieCat]

12. Tom....why Did Eric vote against the President's budget?

And why is he going on Beck?

I'm sorry, I'm quite confused. :crazy:

[Tom Rinaldo]

16. If I get time to research that I will

I assume it's true that he did since it's been posted but I don't know anything about it at the moment. What I do know is that if he did he would have made his reasons clear on the record, so it can be researched, in the local papers or Congressional Record if nowhere else.

As for Beck I can only guess. But guessing I would say that Beck reached out to him, not the other way around. Massa has never been afraid to debate anyone anywhere, and the same regarding interviews. A full hour is a lot of airtime, much more than almost anyone ever gets almost anywhere. You may remember when Eric was the first one to call out Cheney and challange him to a full debate. I suspect Eric feels he can more than hold his own with anyone if given time to make his case. I suspect that there are a lot of Beck viewers in Massa's district, and that he knows many of them personally. Like when Wes Clark became a FOX commentator, I suspect Eric thinks he knows how to make his case to that type audiance.

As to what the specific case is that Eric feels a need to make now, I am also curious to find out, but I do not start out by assuming that it is a case that Beck would ultimately want to see made.

[FrenchieCat]

23. Wes Clark went on Fox to Defend & support a Democratic agenda, not ever once to oppose it....

and so if Massa goes on Beck to make his case as to why he opposes Health Care reform,
he would be helping Republicans, and hurting Democrats.....and hurting those who
like him have a pre-existing condition, but unlike him, don't have Health Care Insurance....

I don't see the positive purpose in this, unless he is going to make a positive case
for Democrats. Anything else will be about him, and for him. That's not what this is
supposed to be about; him vs. Rahm or anything similar. Nevertheless, I won't be watching Beck,
the racist asshole loony, no matter who goes on his show.

[jefferson_dem]

11. Massa also voted against the President's budget...

which he said led to a naked confrontation with Rahm in the showers. He's never really been a friend to Dems and seems rather unstable right now.

Correction: Massa said he was "going to" vote against the budget. Not sure if he carried out that oppositon.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/03/08/eric-massa-rahm-emanuel-i_n_490058.html

[HughMoran]

4. Waaahh!

[mitchum]

38. That's a great looking pedal...

signed,
mitchum the gear queen

[Cha]

45. Way Huge!

[Phx_Dem]

5. The staffer he was allegedly sexually harrassing should be the one screaming.

I hope they did push his ass out. Good riddance.

[rudy23]

49. The staffer was mocking his homosexuality. They're liable, too, IMO. n/t

[Spazito]

6. This is getting more bizarre by the hour...

First he is resigning at the end of his term due to health issues then he is resigning Monday (today) because of health issues and a potential ethics investigation and now he is going on Beck's show to 'reveal' a Democratic 'conspiracy' against him?

Yikes, it seems more and more Mr. Massa is acting quite irrationally and bringing his actions into greater question than they might have been otherwise, imo.

[BeyondGeography]

10. Dude needs meds

[zulchzulu]

13. Maybe Massa will sexually harass Beck too

I'm sure Beck might take off his magic pants.

[Raine1967]

14. Check this Video out:

Seems like Massa has a huge axe to grind with Rham.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wa9ga63IokQ

Source: http://pourmecoffee.posterous.com/bad-blood-rahm-tells-massa-to-chill-in-2006
Rahm Emanuel inspects Congressman Eric Massa on a trip to upstate New York during Massa's run for Congress in 2006. Emanuel scolds Massa for appearing too angry before potential voters in the Renaud Brothers film Taking the Hill.

Interesting to stumble across it after reading this thread and the nonsense he pulled on talk radio this morning. I was sympathetic to his plight until today.

[jefferson_dem]

15. Whoa! Creepy.

Those last :30 seconds are revealing. "Fuck him."

[slipslidingaway]

25. Whoa who was talking??? n/t

[Jennicut]

17. Lovely. Whatever anyone thinks of the health care bill, Glenn Beck is NOT a liberal's friend

Let me repeat that: Glenn Beck is not our friend! Totally horrible approach to take by Rep. Massa. I am glad he is on his way out now. This morning, I thought maybe his own staffer over reacted to him but now, good riddance.

[Raine1967]

26. +1

My sentiments exactly.

[brentspeak]

18. If he can get Americans to support a true public option, then it's a good idea for Massa to be there

[Jennicut]

19. You mean he will convince Glenn Beck's audience that a public option is a good thing?

My parents watch it. They already think Obama is a socialist. I refuse to watch that trash as a liberal. Perhaps some independents might watch it, but those that do already lean to the right.

[jefferson_dem]

20. And going on Clown Beck's show to rant against his party is the way to get that done? n/t

[frazzled]

21. The House bill had a public option

Maybe it wasn't the world's best, but it was there: he voted against it.

[brentspeak]

24. Massa knew that the final bill would never have a public option included

And he was dead-set against the mandate.

[frazzled]

27. Every other progressive (besides Kucinich) voted for it

Face it: this man is not.making.sense.

Wait till the real stories emerge. He's thrown down the gantlet by running to Glenn Beck to denounce Democrats. He seems desperate to keep his world from crumbling in on him by blaming everyone else. The man's a powder keg, it seems.

[brentspeak]

28. Makes perfect sense: the Democratic leadership sucks, period

Everyone know it. Who could blame Massa for being disgusted?

[frazzled]

29. Okay ...

I'm backing out of this one, because your logic appears to be as twisted as Massa's. There's no point arguing with angry and blind.

Have fun watching Glenn Beck.

[brentspeak]

32. Of course you're backing out; there's no point arguing with the truth

And I don't watch television.

[cali]

40. the truth? the fucking capitol T truth? It's called an opinion, genius.

and your fucking opinion- or mine, or anyone's- is NOT some fucking immortal truth.

[karynnj]

31. No one will blame him for being disgusted. They should blame him for going on Beck's show

and trashing the Democrats - if that is what he does.

[brentspeak]

34. If he limits his anger to the Democratic leadership

then he won't be trashing the real Democrats.

[karynnj]

36. Nancy Pelosi is a liberal Democrat and she is the top of the Democratic leadership in the House

The Democratic party has a broad range and they are all "real" Democrats. That terminology has always been pretty obnoxious.

Let's agree to wait and see what he says.

[brentspeak]

50. Yes, she is the top of the Democrat leadership...and her leadership is a joke n/t

[jefferson_dem]

41. Yeah...

The leadership sucks so he votes against the most sweeping set of health care reforms in generations, if not ever. Now he goes on the Beck Spewfest to tell everyone how shitty the Dems are. Whatever. I'm glad this tool is on his way out the door.

[karynnj]

30. He knew the final bill would not have it so he voted against the House bill???

You do know if the Senate bill were different that he would have had a chance to vote on the conference bill - or as wil be the case now the Senate bill and a reconciliation bill.

[Skidmore]

22. Wow! That is

incredibly naive, or duplicitous.

[kestrel91316]

33. I still can't figure out what happened and who thinks who was getting harrassed by who.

[Bobbie Jo]

35. Faux is the perfect outlet for this kind of crap.

[CreekDog]

37. There are people here who are willing to support Beck and his show?

on the basis of some principle?

what principle is that?

[O is 44]

39. My guess he's trying to divert attention

away from his own ethic complaints. Then again where would a former Republican go to discuss his grievances with Dems....if this is true this guy was no democrat.

[Phx_Dem]

42. And doing it on Beck's show, will really show us Dems! ROFLMAO!

He's probably just pissed that Rahm didn't try to hit on him in the shower.

[nsd]

43. Has that guy quit yet?

He said was going to resign effective today. Did he do it?

[zulchzulu]

44. Democrats always turn to college dropout asshat Glenn Beck for advice and entertainment

Turning on and watching Glenn Beck is akin to sticking your hand in a meat grinder and trying to tell chicken crossing the road jokes without screaming.

Yeah, Glenn, we'll be watching a sexual predator who had to resign before his term was over on your "show" because he sets such a fine example of a Democrat... except that he resigned. Yup, you like quitters, Glenn. And stupid ones at that...

:crazy:

[rudy23]

46. Rahm's a Democrat?

News to me.

[jefferson_dem]

47. According to Massa, Rahm was pressuring him to vote "AYE" on the health care reform bill.

Massa voted "NO" on the original bill.

Now, take a look at the roll call and see who the real "Democrat" is - the one who was lobbying for "AYE" votes or the one who voted "NO".

http://clerk.house.gov/evs/2009/roll887.xml

[BlueIdaho]

52. I wonder if Beck

Will ask him about his senior staffer who took the complaint about the congressman's unwanted advances to a male junior staffer to the ethics committee?

Nah - didn't think so...

[Number23]

53. And the determined efforts of Democrats to constantly undermine and marginalize themselves continues

This isht is embarrassing. Actually embarrassing.