Is it possible that some of Obama's adversaries on the left are hoping that HCR fails...

[HughMoran]

Poll question: Is it possible that some of Obama's adversaries on the left are hoping that HCR fails...

...because passing it would boost his image with Democrats & make him a stronger leader?

[Truth2Tell]

1. Other. Obama's Insurance cartel bailout bill

will be a failure of HCR. His critics on the left oppose the bill so as to prevent the fail.

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[HughMoran]

5. truth hurt?

:rofl:

[cliffordu]

18. rofl....

:rofl:

[jefferson_dem]

3. ...Here...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gu1q17rUkVU

[HughMoran]

4. Cute outfit on the blonde

Too bad the lip-syncing is trying on my nerves - lol.

:hi:

[havocmom]

6. Is it possible to frame this shameless Insurance welfare as what it is

Guess not. Too invested in painting legitimate desire for REAL reform as just more attacks on the President. Must be a lot of deep shame in the big lie. Working to hard to convince everyone else that the delusion is reform.

[DailyGrind51]

7. A slogan among German Bolsheviks prior to WWII was, "After them, us!"

They hope that the Nazis would make things so intolerable that the German people would oust them from power and swing to the extreme left to repair the damage.

[IndianaGreen]

9. There were no German Bolsheviks

The German Communist Party predated the Bolshevik Party, which was not composed entirely of communists. German communists were the only real opposition to fascism. They were obliterated by the militarists, conservatives, and the nazis.

[DailyGrind51]

12. My German relatives say that German communists were referred to as "bolsheviks".

This was when the SA fought Bolsheviks in street battles prior to Hitler's rise to power.

[IndianaGreen]

8. False premise! Unlike some of you, the Left cares about the working class

and doesn't care about giving the health insurance industry billions of our dollars to fatten their pockets.

[babylonsister]

10. 'Probable' could have been a viable response I'd have voted for.

It's pretty obvious imo.

[Bobbie Jo]

13. You beat me to it.

Probable, likely, etc...

and yes, obvious.

[HughMoran]

14. As it is

People took the 'Hugh Moran' option with just the implication. It is interesting that not one person to date believes that I'm just being cynical.

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[ibegurpard]

15. I'd be very happy to boost his image and make him a stronger leader

If he was pushing for single-payer or some other hybrid like any other country in the civilized world.

[HughMoran]

16. If he did, and (inevitably) failed at that

1) would you be happy with the current system for the foreseeable future?

2) Would you then call him a failure for not getting passed what we all know won't pass (my bet - absofrickenlutley would you blame him, knowing you)

3) Would you admit that you were wrong for pushing a strategy that everybody knows would fail (per 2), of course you won't - your type never has and never will admit when they're wrong.)

[LatteLibertine]

17. I suppose

if they want to move from government into lobbying. I can't see a Democrat who wants President Obama and the party to be able to get anything done for the rest of his term opposing HCR. It will gimp the party and make it much easier for the Republicans to return to a majority. Besides it's the right thing to do.

Democrats worried about keeping their seat should aggressively pursue real financial sector reform/regulation. Public outrage over Wall Street abuses is high. This is also due to the fact that 90% of the folks that perpetuated the mess are in the same industry doing the same thing. There has been no consequences for them, and if things remain as is we will see another 2008 sort of "crisis".