WHAT ARE WE GONNA DO about that SCOTUS decision; CITIZENS UNITED?????

[FrenchieCat]

Cause we can fight all we want to against each other,
but in the meantime, we aren't fighting against the
decision that will make none of what we fight about
ever matter!

And to add,
we don't pass this HCR bill,
considering that decision,
we ain't ever gonna pass shit ever again
that will even be close to anything
anyone would ever want around here. period.

We need to get our shit together like right about now,
before the doodoo is so deep,
till we might as well just lock all of our doors,
and pray for the best.

[Oregone]

1. Get angry and scream into an echo chamber

[FrenchieCat]

2. So in other words......nothing.

Just continue to argue with each other while walking sideways.

Too bad. :(

[Oregone]

3. Yes

[bigwillq]

4. Is it ok to argue with each other on a message board

but "DO SOMETHING" in real life, ya know, where it counts?? :shrug:

[FrenchieCat]

6. I wrote to both of my Senators and my rep like 2 days after the case was announced.

So yeah.....I agree.

I can't really afford to fly out to DC,
but if there is ever a march in the SF Bay Area,
I'm there!

[bigwillq]

7. I will be writing too, as I have in the past (on other subjects)

I haven't yet wrote about the SCOTUS decision.

And I hear ya on the can't fly part. But I guess I can drive or train it to DC. I always want to go to these Marches but my work sked doesn't always allow for it. I work nights and weekends.

[Atticus]

5. There's a street in DC called, "First Street, NE". On one side is the US Supreme Court.

On the other is the Capitol Building.

SCOTUS handed us this POS decision which ranks right up there with Bush v. Gore for transparent partisan assholery.

The US Congress COULD enact remedial legislation to reclaim political activity for those of us who actually live, breathe and bleed.

If a whole lot of truly pissed off people were to fill that street and all the space between the steps of the Court and those of the Capitol and maybe spill around and onto the National Mall, I'll bet even the brain-dead teabagger whores (your cue, Michelle!) would take notice and some of the other semi-reasonable people in Congress (sit down now, Michelle) just might make the law of the land agree with the common sense of its people.

I'll drive out from Illinois.

Anyone?

[Cha]

8. I can tell you what clarence thomas' wife virginia is doing about it..

she's getting busy to roundup more teabaggers with more corporate money to oust President Obama.

"Justice's Wife(Thomas) Launches 'Tea Party' Group"
Source: LA TIMES

As Virginia Thomas tells it in her soft-spoken, Midwestern cadence, the story of her involvement in the "tea party" movement is the tale of an average citizen in action.

"I am an ordinary citizen from Omaha, Neb., who just may have the chance to preserve liberty along with you and other people like you," she said at a recent panel discussion with tea party leaders in Washington. Thomas went on to count herself among those energized into action by President Obama's "hard-left agenda."

She is the wife of Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas, and she has launched a tea-party-linked group that could test the traditional notions of political impartiality for the court.

In January, Virginia Thomas created Liberty Central Inc., a nonprofit lobbying group whose website will organize activism around a set of conservative "core principles," she said.

The group plans to issue score cards for Congress members and be involved in the November election, although Thomas would not specify how. She said it would accept donations from various sources -- including corporations -- as allowed under campaign finance rules recently loosened by the Supreme Court.

"I adore all the new citizen patriots who are rising up across this country," Thomas, who goes by Ginni, said on the panel at the Conservative Political Action Conference. "I have felt called to the front lines with you, with my fellow citizens, to preserve what made America great."


http://www.latimes.com/news/nation-and-world/la-na-thomas14-2010mar14,0,6505384.story

This is just the beginning of what the SC5's decision on relaxing the campaign finance restrictions on corporation donating to political causes has wrought.

[madmom]

20. I am curious as to HOW she was able to get this group together so quickly after the decision . It

seems they were all organized and waiting in the wings for this decision to come down, like they knew it was coming or something.:tinfoilhat:

[Cha]

22. Oh, sweetie..you don't need a tinfoil hat for that one.

It's only obvious.

[harkadog]

23. More misinformation though that is not unusual.

Your boldfaced type is commentary from a reporter who has not read and certainly does not understand the Citizens United decision. Nothing in the decision changed how Thomas' wife could raise money with her PAC. If you disagree please tell us what part of the decision changed how she could raise money.

[handmade34]

9. divide and conquer...

can't let it happen. I heve written congress critters and discuss with everyone I meet. If i lived in one place I would be involved with the local party and organizing...

Thank you FrenchieCat for suggesting we keep it real

[KILL THE WISE ONE]

10. demand that TOYOTA be charged in the death of accelerator victims

If the corporations are persons, then after conviction the corporation must go to prison.
so who Is the prosecutors we need to bombard with demands for criminal charges of at least manslaughter ?

[calimary]

11. NOW we're talking! A MOST interesting idea, KILL THE WISE ONE!

If they want the rights of personhood, there are drawbacks that come with it from which they can't claim immunity. Either you're ON the bus, or OFF the bus.

If someone dies in a faulty Toyota, well then, Toyota-the-corporate-person, what kind of penalties does a person thus face?

[depakid]

25. Good luck with that- the administration won't even go after Peanut Corp for knowingly contaminating

the food supply and killing nine people.

[TomCADem]

12. The U.S. Chamber Of Commerce Can Pay Us To Scream and Undermine Each Other!

Through Freedom Works! The Chamber is on a roll trying to kill HCR, EPA Greenhouse Gas regulations, and financial reform.

[FrenchieCat]

14. Yep. And we should forbid stories about them to be posted here.......

I don't think this "keeping our eye on the enemy" has actually worked for us.
We need to be kicking their ass, no matter what they are doing, period!

[TomCADem]

15. Not Sure I Agree, There Is A Talking Point That The Chamber SUPPORTS The Bill...

Any reality based liberal should recognize that the Republicans, Fox News and the Chamber are the ones who are corporatist, yet we get this continuous stream of reality defying claims that somehow this is all some vast conspiracy with Republicans, Fox, and the Chamber really liking the bill, and Democrats, unions and the AARP really hating the bill.

Sometimes, you just have to remind people that water is wet, and the Chamber is an enemy of the current reform bills, as are the Republicans notwithstanding the most wild-eyed claims that up is down, and the Chamber is a friend of "true" progressives in opposing reform.

[depakid]

24. The Chamber cares about one thing only- tearing down Democrats and destroying Obama

My guess is that they probably DO much of the substance in the legislation-since it furthers their own ideological interests and pads health insurers pockets at the expense of the middle class.

Their beef lies in the fear that its passage might help to stem Democratic losses this November.

[craigmatic]

13. The only thing that can be done is to either do a constitutional amendment or pass a law against it

It's too bad the dems probably won't do either since so many of them are on the corporate take.

[Go2Peace]

16. I agree. But so far there is not a peep out of Washington.

Are they waiting until after health care?

[FrenchieCat]

17. There were Senate Hearings last week on this......

But our Corporate United Citizen Media didn't report on it.
Too busy reporting on John Edwards' girlfriend, and Massa's Massages I guess. :shrug:

At Senate Hearing, Lawmakers Deconstruct Citizens United Ruling
http://www.truthout.org/at-senate-hearing-lawmakers-deconstruct-citizens-united-ruling57563


also, in February, there were House hearings,

Nadler Examines Implications of Supreme Court’s Decision in Citizens United, Considers Legislative Responses
http://nadler.house.gov/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=1382&Itemid=119

But magically, the media didn't find that a story worth reporting on then either.

But then, the media is corporate, so I could see where it would be a conflict of interest
for them to inform us on this very important matter.

Unfortunately, I fear that if we rely on the media for our information on what is happening
with congress and Citizens United, it will be like a tree falling in the forest when no one is around.

[NJmaverick]

18. k & R because this stuff MATTERS

[FrenchieCat]

21. Apparently not so much......

I guess until it's too late,
then we will get busy blaming each other.
This is what we do, unfortunately! :(

[Odin2005]

19. K&R