I'm excited, I really am. Are any of you?

[jillan]

Here we are on the verge of history.
This is really a big deal. We are witnessing something huge. Something that will be in textbooks (except in Texas) forever.
And in our own little way - we were part of it.

I will be really disappointed if the bill passes without a public option, and mandates without a PO makes my blood curl BUT -
I guess I stand with Bernie Sanders....there is so much good in this bill it would be terrible if it didn't pass.

Who else is excited??? Check in if you are :fistbump:

[Schema Thing]

1. check :)

[stevenleser]

2. K&R

[Starbucks Anarchist]

3. Excitement is DU's kryptonite.

Perpetual despair and gnashing of teeth will save us. ;)

[Glenda]

92. lol

:spray:

[Ozymanithrax]

4. I will be excited When Obama signs the bill...

It ain't over till the fat lady sings.

[1776Forever]

8. And the skinny man signs - lol!

:hide:

[Ozymanithrax]

19. Now thats funny right there.

[Unvanguard]

25. Me, too. Right now I'm just nervous. n/t

[DrToast]

5. Nervous....won't be excited until I see the Rose Garden....

[jillan]

10. Party time! Time to chill some champagne.

[awoke_in_2003]

32. I beg your pardon

he never promised you a Rose Garden (I crack myself up, a regular legend in my own mind) :hi:

[rgbecker]

6. I'm with OBAMA all the way!

[annabanana]

7. Still too gunshy to be excited...n/t

[Bobbie Jo]

9. K&R

:hi: :fistbump:

:kick:

[Jennicut]

11. Texas textbooks will declare it the day of Hell or something.

I am nervous we might not have the votes, relieved the whole thing is almost at an end, and slightly excited to see if we can pull this off and make the Rethugs shut up. And most of all, happy that we will have an actual HCR bill. I remember the defeat in the early 90's very well.

[jillan]

14. I'm nervous too - but I just have a good feeling about it passing.

[awoke_in_2003]

35. No, it will be known as the day

a Socialist Fascist Kenyan born President (who probably likes arugula) signed a Marxist bill into legislation, therefore persecuting the Christians and ruining the sanctity of marriage, causing the collapse of family values and making men marry horses :)

[Jennicut]

38. Or that.

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[femmocrat]

12. I'm "cautiously optimistic" !

Too superstitious to be "excited" I guess.

[Clio the Leo]

13. I'm both fired up AND ready to go...

..... but then I've been that way for going on three years now.

[liberalmuse]

15. I'm incredibly excited!

It's high time we moved forward. It's not a giant leap but it's a firm step in the right direction.

[FrenchieCat]

16. I feel like I do right before an election that's gonna be close.

I'm just waiting for some fucking asshole to do or say something
that the Cable monsters can run with and fuck up our lives
just a little bit more.

[Kind of Blue]

17. Yeah, I know what you mean.

I'm holding it in until I can finally burst from the joy of it passing.

KnR for keeping hope alive :)

[slingsam]

18. check

EOM

[Top Cat]

20. K&R

[demosincebirth]

21. Any thing is better than what we have now...and I have good insurance

[jenmito]

22. I'm checking intrade every few minutes...

it's at 74.8 right now! :fistbump:

[jillan]

23. Ohhhh - that's exciting...keep us posted!

[leftygolfer]

24. Intrade is excellent.

Thanks for the update

[Oregone]

26. Its like watching a train wreck. So giddy I am

[Forkboy]

27. Haven't been this excited since 2000...and we all know how well that worked out!

I do like the Texas gag though. ;)

:)

[jillan]

30. Oh sush! You are making me think about how I felt in 2004.

:scared:

[Forkboy]

33. Sorry. Professor Positive I'm not.

I would be if my negativity wasn't so often proven correct though. x(

[provis99]

28. if this horrible bill passes, I'm moving to Canada

I want real health care, not government-enforced slavery to insurance corporations, which is what this bill is.

[jillan]

31. What about Costa Rica? I hear that's a popular place for people who don't want this bill to pass.

[Jennicut]

42. They might not want any of us, unless you have a parent born there.

Dual citizenship would be cool but most of us don't have it.

[mkultra]

93. sounds good. dont forget to delete your DU account as well.

[damonm]

29. I'm in -once it's signed!

[goclark]

34. Fired Up and ready to go! nt

[HughMoran]

36. I did a litle dance after hearing that Pelosi is still beaming a big smile

...then reality hit and I became cynical again - lol.

[Odin2005]

37. Why should I be excited for a POS Corporatist give-away to the insurance companies?

[FrenchieCat]

39. Because you should be more concerned about the people who are dying right now,

than in giving the finger to the Insurance companies.

Your priorities are screwed, and calling out names won't bring anyone back
from the dead.

[jonnyblitz]

44. oh cut the hyperbolic BULLSHIT. this bill will make things

even worse for those "dying people" you claim to be oh so concerned about. all you care about is how your beloved Obama fares politically.

[FrenchieCat]

45. No they won't, and no matter how many times you repeat your tired talking points,

it won't make them true.

Not Dr. Howard Dean.
Not Sen. Sanders.
Not Sen. Franken.
Not Mr. Krugman.
Not Rep. Weiner.
Not Wendell Potter.
Not Barbara Lee.
Not Mr. Reich.

Believe what you spew. None of those that can be trusted on this are saying that more people die
with this bill passing. You know why? cause it ain't fucking true.

But keep lying to yourself....
if it makes you feel smart.

[arcadian]

85. +1

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[Prism]

48. You're not really that concerned. Check yourself.

If you were properly concerned about actual people instead of narrowly concerned about political image, you would be fighting like hell to see people receive actual care instead of mere insurance. You would focus not only on the uninsured, but the current insured who cannot afford the co-pays, deductibles, and out-of-pockets. (You, rather mysteriously, don't often mention them).

You would be fighting for health care reform instead of health insurance reform.

So this "You're ok with people dying" dance you've got going on is as transparently hollow and hypocritical as the talking points you spend all day pasting around.

People may get insurance, if they can pay for it, subsidies or no.

But tens of millions who currently cannot afford care will still not be able to afford care.

And you - and the President - don't much seem to give a good god damn about them.

Maybe you should stop accusing everyone else of practically partying over the death of the uninsured as you, also, throw real lives overboard in propagandist service to the president.

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[Odin2005]

61. Health "Insurance" is not Health Care.

The Insurance Companies make their money by denying as much CARE as they can.

[arcadian]

84. +1

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

86. If it's a corporatist giveaway, how come the big corporations are against it?

All the big corporatist insurance corporate corpatocracies are spending millions to kill the bill. In short, they're on the same side as you are.

How do you explain that?

[mkultra]

95. they have paid agitators at town halls and here on DU. this guy is one.

[CaliforniaPeggy]

40. I'll be excited once it passes!

Right now, I'm just too nervous that something, anything, will derail it.

Once it passes, then I'll join you, OK?

:hi:

[harun]

65. I don't think it is going to pass at all. House members don't won't to

go down saying they voted to approve the Senate version.

[ChicagoSuz219]

41. I'm too nervous to be excited...

...I'm in the holding-my-breath stage... once it's passed, I'll be able to breathe again... :-)

[flamingdem]

43. I want to see Obama do well. nt

[Raineyb]

46. Funny, I'm more concerned about the nation and its citizens doing well.

:shrug:

[FiveGoodMen]

98. Whereas, I want to see Obama do good.

(no, no ... think about it)

[impik]

47. Ohhh, i'll be dancing. This would be something to remember

[saltpoint]

49. Sanders' response to public policy is generally outstanding.

He's a smart man with a cool brow and he knows how to navigate through the maze.

I stand with Bernie. I support passage of the bill.

Plus, it will piss off Jim DeMint.

[shotten99]

51. Cautiously optimistic.

[eridani]

53. I want to puke my guts out

IF this piece of shit passes, our government has officially voted to put me in the category "disposable human garbage."

[FrenchieCat]

54. You sound a bit hyperboled and panicked to me.

Maybe if you wish hard enough, we'll get nothing.
it's still possible. Than you can party!

[eridani]

55. The status quo is shitty for me, but I prefer it

I have significant ongoing expenses, and so far I can also afford my shitty, nearly worthless catastrophic insurance as well. However, if I ever have a financial setback that would make it impossible for me to pay both, I could drop the shitty insurance. After "reform," the IRS goes after me if I do that. Fuck that straight to hell.

[FrenchieCat]

56. Well I realize that Health Care is personal, which is why it has been a hard slog.....

I'm glad that it will help scores of people,
cause this ain't just about the individual here,
and it is a foundation.....and with strength from a possible victory,
it is something that we will be able to build on.
I think it won't be as bad as you want to think....
and time will tell even the deepest cynic (that would be your reputation)
here at DU soon enough.

[eridani]

57. I can't see any help at all except for the beneficiaries of expanded Medicaid

But that is existing law, and could have been improved at any time without saddling the rest of us with the proposed catastrophe. Yeah, right, we'll build on it. Just like we built on NAFTA and bank deregulation. Just like we fixed welfare "reform."

[salguine]

62. I'll hold your head while you barf if you'll hold mine. This bill is a piece of shit, and the only

people who think this thing is great are the ones who are so thick-headed that they still can't grasp the fact that having health insurance and having access to health care are two things that are so vastly different that they might well not even be discussed in the same conversation.

[ncteechur]

99. don't let the doorknob hit you...

so long--enjoy the dump!

[lamp_shade]

58. Giddy with excitement here.

[FrenchieCat]

59. The cynics are out in force and are thrashing around.......

they want to get that giddy and stomp on it!

Just don't let them!

[moondust]

60. Just hope to hell it works.

And gets better with the passage of time.

[DisgustedInMN]

63. I should be "excited" because..

.. I've been successfully fucked over by someone who I put my faith and trust in?


Really?



:banghead:

[watercolors]

64. Very excited, history in the making, lets hope

they don't blow it! I just get so angry at our party, they can't seem to get on the same page and we are missing great opportunities because of it!

[jillan]

73. If they blow this then they don't deserve to be in politics...and I will be done.

[Peacetrain]

66. Yep... I am

This is life changing for a lot of people.. Life sustaining for many..

[Kablooie]

67. Yes, and it doesn't mean the fight for public or single payer is over.

It means that the fight can continue.
The new laws create a base for the fight to build on.

[grahamhgreen]

68. No - I am shocked by what a slick con job it is people a re falling for....

hope you're right if it passes - I think the bill is a total bait and switch as with most of Obama's policies.

[Peacetrain]

69. You are wrong, just dead wrong on this.

[grahamhgreen]

70. I hope you're right, but after the bankster bailout, expanded wars, no FISA prosecutions, NAFTA, etc

I don't believe so - it's a huge give-away to big insurance, unless we get a Medicare expansion or PO in there somehow....

[Jeff In Milwaukee]

71. (except in Texas)

You are SO Bad....

I'm stoked. We've got a front row seat at history being made.

[jillan]

74. I was wondering if anyone else caught that little dig at Tx.

[CitizenLeft]

81. I did too

:rofl:

[Kitsune]

72. I'm wondering when our healthcare system will qualify us for refugee status elsewhere in the world.

The way it keeps getting worse with no end in sight because our government is a wholly owned subsidiary of a bunch of sociopathic leeches (when they aren't selfsame sociopathic leeches themselves), it can't be long now... right? :(

[udbcrzy2]

75. I am not holding my breath

I was excited when I voted for Obama and then again when I thought we were getting a health bill.
But now, I am not holding my breath:)

[ShortnFiery]

76. Yes, we, the democrats, are about to have our political asses handed to us in the November election

thanks to our corporate democratic leaders.

I'm all aflutter. :eyes:

[FrenchieCat]

77. I see you're getting talking points from the wrong folks once again!

You're at about 100% on this by now.

[ShortnFiery]

78. No, I just happen to live in the real world.

Wait for it ... it's going to be horrific for some of you ... but no worries, blame the favorite scapegoat of "new democrats" = the LIBERALS. :-)

Wait for the fall-out? It's going to get real ugly.

[FrenchieCat]

80. I'm sure you are waiting with baited breath!

[ShortnFiery]

82. I'm saddened and disappointed. eom

[Greybnk48]

79. Me.

[PatSeg]

83. I have mixed feelings about the bill

I wish I could be excited, but I'm still apprehensive about the bill.

Edit to add that this was just posted under Breaking News, that the public option was included in the House reconciliation bill:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x4308933

Maybe I can get excited, but I'm still skeptical.

[Kirbster]

87. I want the bill to pass

My reasons:

1. It will help a lot of people.
2. It will piss off the Republicans, break the logjam, and set the stage for something better.
3. If the insurance companies are lobbying against it, there must be something good about it.

Yes, I would prefer "Medicare for All", but until that's politically possible, I can live with any version of the HCR bill. Hell, I already do. I live in Massachusetts.

[Cleobulus]

88. What so exciting by increasing coverage without increasing access to health care? n/t

[FrenchieCat]

89. Wassamatter, Pants on fire?

[Cleobulus]

90. Its easy to be glib when you aren't in a position to not be able to afford treatment.

With or without health care reform.

[liquid diamond]

91. I am. i won't let the DK supporters rain on my parade.

They can be miserable all they want.

[babylonsister]

96. Get 'er done, Dems! I'm anxious but hopeful. nt

[gulliver]

97. Check, big time.

Foot in door. Nose in tent. Rest friction overcome. Sled dogs cracked the ice on the runners. This is the beginning of a truly first class health care system for the good old USA.

[golfguru]

100. Without a PO, the insurance corporations benefit the most

so I can't get excited. Also my 18-24 year kids will be
forced to buy insurance instead of pay as needed.

[jillan]

101. Kickin - woohooo - I'm really excited - it's gonna happen!

[HughMoran]

102. I'm tired