HCR: Obama Approval Dropping, At Lowest Point Yet

[MannyGoldstein]

Roughly two-thirds of Americans want the public option that Candidate Obama pledged would be in the bill he signs. Roughly the same percentage don't want mandates with no public option, which is the crux of the current bill.

So, it comes as no surprise that Obama's job approval has moved to http://www.gallup.com/poll/113980/gallup-daily-obama-job-approval.aspx">an all-time low of 46%, with a disapproval of 48%.

On the bright side, things are looking up for some: health insurer stocks are doing quite well indeed.

[Dinger]

1. Proud Kick & Rec

Fuck it. I won't lie.

[jefferson_dem]

11. Yipeee...

Our Democratic President's poll numbers are down! Good news there.

Shame on you.

[MannyGoldstein]

17. Please point out the part where I said it's good news.

Thanks.

[jefferson_dem]

31. My reply wasn't to your OP. n/t

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[Dinger]

20. You'd Be Wrong There sd

[Bobbie Jo]

21. Proud?

Fuck it. Did you just have an "out of character" spasm?

Oh, and....unrec. If only to counter yours.

[gravity]

2. That trend will reverse next week

This is going to be a HUGE victory for Obama and the Democrats.

[amborin]

3. a false "victory" aka winning at all costs, and foreclosing on genuine health care reform

[gravity]

8. Or people will realize that the sky isn't falling

and that this bill actually isn't as bad as everyone makes it out to be and actually addresses many of the problems of our health care system.

[amborin]

19. it prevents real health care reform

[backscatter712]

23. You would have hated FDR's Social Security and LBJ's Medicare.

They didn't cover everyone either, and had all sorts of carved-out exceptions to get enough support to pass.

[amborin]

27. no comparisons!

don't delude yourself, please

[robinblue]

32. I think it does also. Its like--well, we got the 'reform' lets move on

mantra.

[Fruittree]

28. Wrong -

A first step in providing genuine healthcare reform.

[Chipper Chat]

5. Sunday television should be better than usual this weekend.

C-span anyone?

[tekisui]

6. It won't really 'reverse'. It will, at most, provide a temporary bump.

Short-lived and slight.

[Lil Missy]

4. It will go up when HCR passes. (That might disappoint people here)

[MUAD_DIB]

10. Yeah, you getting that vibe as well?

:eyes:

[Lil Missy]

34. Yeah. It's all or nothing for some. "If I don't get my way, nobody gets anything"

[scheming daemons]

7. Despite your best efforts to help them, Manny... the GOP is going to lose this one

And after it passes this weekend... within a month, Obama will be at 55%.

[DFLforever]

12. Hoard Dean says it'll only take 10 days.

for his approval to get up there.

[chowder66]

52. I wouldn't bet on that number

Only because he may be using past indicators. Most of this is unprecedented including the Prez himself.

I would just give that timeframe some wiggle room.

[O is 44]

9. This bill is not perfect but will help.....

It does not appear to me that he cares about his own numbers if he did he would not have taken this on. I'm still with this President. I would hold him more accountable for the bill if he did not have to go through congress to get his agenda passed.

[Fruittree]

29. Absolutely agree!

I don't understand why people seem to choose to ignore the little detail about congress..

[Jennicut]

13. I honestly don't care. This bill may not have overwhelming support but it is damn

important and more important to me then a politician's approval rating. The public once approved of Bush and the Iraq war with incredibly high numbers. Didn't make it right all these years later. Poll numbers for Presidents have meaning but a few times...in their reelection efforts and during the midterms.

[DFLforever]

14. My condolences on your upcoming loss, Manny

[HughMoran]

25. It's bugging the living crap out of him

That a Democrat is succeeding even after his blistering attacks all year.

[DFLforever]

26. I Know

and I'm ashamed to admit, I'm loving it.

[Beetwasher]

36. I Can Taste His Bitterness, And It's Delectable

:rofl:

I guarantee you, when the benefits of this bill start becoming obvious, lots of posters are going to disappear, or pretend they were never against this legislation.

[Spazito]

38. Yep, I agree! n/t

[geek tragedy]

16. Straight from the Drudge Report . . . nt

[ProSense]

18. That's OK. Polls also showed Americans supporting the Iraq invasion

Sometimes the majority of Americans don't have all the facts and base their decisions on MSM spin.

Leaders should have better sense than to govern by polls.

[Thrill]

22. Surprised its not in the 30s, listening to the way the media

covers him

[HughMoran]

24. Manny slashing and burning

...again... :eyes:

[Phx_Dem]

35. That's all he ever does.

:puke:

[HughMoran]

37. les miserables

Some people thrive on being miserable.

[DevonRex]

49. Well, he's resorted to posting dupes now.

I guess that's a good sign. :eyes:

[DCBob]

30. Those numbers are more a reflection of failure and not getting anything done on HCR.

Once this thing is passed on Sunday and the media hails it as a bold, brave, hard fought win for the Democrats, Obama and America, those numbers will look alot better.

[freddie mertz]

33. If true, the American people are a lot smarter than the Dems think they are.

Watch for the consequences over the next three years.

[prolesunited]

39. You're like the Energizer Bunny, aren't you

Are you being paid for this?

[grantcart]

43. Oh no the EB has a beneficial impact, atleast its fun to watch

[Hippo_Tron]

40. A 46% low is pretty damn good

[Jennicut]

41. His approval rating went back up today. It is 47/47. Daily poll watching could drive a person mad.

Maybe that is why Gallup and Rasmussen decided to have daily tracking polls for the first time ever for a President.

[4lbs]

42. And a year from now, March 2011, it will be in the mid-50s again.

The jobs situation will be greatly improved and that "big bad" health bill that some people are afraid of won't seem as scary and they'll actually like it.

[dionysus]

44. oh manny, you're such a card...

:rofl:

[DevonRex]

45. And aren't you just gleeful about the Democratic President

going down in the polls. Just like the teabaggers are. :shrug:

[dionysus]

46. you little conservadem you! you know manny's just about ground his teeth down to little nubs

watching this bill approach passage!

:rofl:

[DevonRex]

48. Is that why he didn't post

this: :evilgrin:

:rofl:

[dionysus]

50. lol.. you betcha!

:hi:

[BeyondGeography]

47. See you on the other side of HCR approval

Then again, you won't be posting his ratings then.

[Political Heretic]

51. I think BOTH people cheering low numbers and people cheering high numbers are really sad.

This isn't a fucking game. It's not a fucking sport. This isn't about your pro-Obama team winning or your anti-Obama team winning.

This is about real people's lives.

It's about poor and working american families and whether or not ordinary Americans feel represented by their government or whether they - as usual - feel left out in the cold.

If the numbers are low but you believe the people are "wrong" - then maybe instead of playing games you could try to seriously look at what their concerns are, and where the disconnect is? If the numbers are low and you believe the people are "right" maybe you can focus on how to deliver that message effectively to our political leaders, and stop treating politics like a fucking high school popularity contest.