Congratulations Mr. Frum for firing the first shot in the Republican Civil War

[grantcart]

CAlo4 has a link http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=103x525163

Conservatives and Republicans today suffered their most crushing legislative defeat since the 1960s.

It’s hard to exaggerate the magnitude of the disaster. Conservatives may cheer themselves that they’ll compensate for today’s expected vote with a big win in the November 2010 elections. But:

(1) It’s a good bet that conservatives are over-optimistic about November – by then the economy will have improved and the immediate goodies in the healthcare bill will be reaching key voting blocs.

(2) So what? Legislative majorities come and go. This healthcare bill is forever. A win in November is very poor compensation for this debacle now.

So far, I think a lot of conservatives will agree with me. Now comes the hard lesson:

A huge part of the blame for today’s disaster attaches to conservatives and Republicans ourselves.

At the beginning of this process we made a strategic decision: unlike, say, Democrats in 2001 when President Bush proposed his first tax cut, we would make no deal with the administration. No negotiations, no compromise, nothing. We were going for all the marbles. This would be Obama’s Waterloo – just as healthcare was Clinton’s in 1994.

Only, the hardliners overlooked a few key facts: Obama was elected with 53% of the vote, not Clinton’s 42%. The liberal block within the Democratic congressional caucus is bigger and stronger than it was in 1993-94. And of course the Democrats also remember their history, and also remember the consequences of their 1994 failure.

This time, when we went for all the marbles, we ended with none.

. . .

So today’s defeat for free-market economics and Republican values is a huge win for the conservative entertainment industry. Their listeners and viewers will now be even more enraged, even more frustrated, even more disappointed in everybody except the responsibility-free talkers on television and radio. For them, it’s mission accomplished. For the cause they purport to represent, it’s Waterloo all right: ours.

You have undoubtedly seen the threads where Frum calls this a "Republican Waterloo".

We all know that what will follow is a bitter in fighting in the Republican Party.

Some (from the NE) will say that they should have engaged.

Some will say that they should oppose every piece of Obama legislation proposed.

And the TeaParty will start going after all of them

Here is the picture from KFI the largest right wing talk station (largest Rush audience).

For the past two years they have been attacking . . . Republicans.

You wanted Teabaggers you got them, I thought that they would wait to start yelling at each other but

that big wonderful ass Frum just couldn't wait to get the first shot in.

[Clio the Leo]

1. lol, love it! NT

[Happyhippychick]

2. DUZY x1000!

[Ikonoklast]

3. Fort Frumster?

[Cha]

4. It was a self implosion

waiting to happen. When you lie down with racist biogoted teabags..you get up with racist bigoted maggots.

[grantcart]

5. edited to add Frum's article

[babylonsister]

6. This is simply music to my ears!!! nt

[mzmolly]

7. Frum v. Limbaugh/Faux/Beck?

Loves it! ;)

[ObamaKerryDem]

8. I actually have somewhat of a newfound respect for Frum after this!

No matter what else I think of him or his politics. Took guts! Now will he survive Rush's wrath?

[grantcart]

12. Alot of folks are going to try and distance themselves from the Palin drift

And it is easy to see that they don't respect Republicans in Congress.

Romney is also officially dead as well.

Who is left?

[Generic Brad]

9. Did Frum admit the GOP has lost it's marbles?

"This time, when we went for all the marbles, we ended with none."

Yep. They have lost their marbles.

[Writer]

10. Beat me to it! n/t

[MadMaddie]

11. How soon will Frum step back from his statements once

Rush gets a hold of him.....5....4....3...2....1

The Repugs have reaped what they have sown.....they pushed this teabagger movement and lost control of it.....always short sighted..

[NHDEMFORLIFE]

13. Frum will back off a bit

As the mid-terms get closer he'll soften a little so he can be invited to all the right cocktail parties.
But he still deserves credit for helping to expose these bigoted, greedy, small-minded lunatics for who they are.