Teenager takes Biden to task over cuss word

[liberalpragmatist]

Teenager takes Biden to task over cuss word
Posted: March 27th, 2010 03:10 PM ET

(CNN) - A 17-year-old student from South Pasadena High School in California took Vice President Joe Biden to task Friday for his use of an un-choice word this week whispered into the ear of President Barack Obama.

"This is a huge deal," McKay Hatch told reporters. "Many kids and adults all over the world look up to Vice President Biden as a role model. He needs to be a good role model for kids and use clean and appropriate language."

Hatch called on Biden to apologize, then packed a "No Cussing Club" T-shirt, wrist bands and penalty jar into a box and carried it to the local post office, cameras documenting his every move and utterance. His goal: "to remind him to use good language."

...

Hatch's Web site, nocussing.com, claims more than 35,000 members and lists his more than 100 appearances on local and national television programs.

It also sells his book "The No-Cussing Club" ($19.95 + $5.50 postage and handling) and his DVD "The Story of the No-Cussing Club ($29.95 +$6 postage and handling) for sale.

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Shut the fuck up, kid.

[donco6]

1. Fuck that shit.

You had to see that coming, right?

[Bitwit1234]

29. And how about when bush called that reporter an S.O.B. and he

didn't use initials.

[Robb]

99. You cannot compare a verbal attack with an expletive.

That the vocabulary in both instances is on the FCC "do not utter" list is irrelevant.

Calling someone a name is childish. Expletive attributives are commonplace among adults.

[DevonRex]

136. There you go, being all logical again. +1 nt

[NavyDavy]

2. did he send one to darth cheney?

[NYC Liberal]

5. And even if he did, the kid's still not right.

Why is "fuck" even such a bad word? Especially in the way Biden used it. Unless you're directing it AT someone ("Go fuck yourself"), it's just for emphasis. Who cares?

[Vicar In A Tutu]

12. People who have a terrible problem with swearing are not to be trusted.

I seldom use such language but unnaturally stymying it to the point where even small doses cause you to be outraged is generally the preserve of the righteously deranged.

[a la izquierda]

22. Fucking awesome post.

I had to do it.

[Divine Discontent]

35. welcome to DU! In certain ways, I agree with the kid, people shouldn't loosely go around swearing

repeatedly - it was for effect what Biden did, in a very big moment. Now, I wouldn't have said that, but it's Biden, and it's his choice.

I did look up the kid's video when he was 14 and made his fortune from this, but in the video he decries the "cussing on capitol hill", so he did question Cheney's curse I believe.

But, a wiki type site details an email they got from one of his employees for the company he runs, and at the end he said something along the lines, and let's keep making more money! Something like 2.5 million was the goal. SO, not a big surprise he would jump all over Biden's quasi-salacious curse. It really is no big deal, but people wanting to make money off it would jump on the wagon, and this kid did... barf.

[NYC Liberal]

49. I agree. If you're telling someone fuck you, go fuck yourself

then the problem isn't the word you used, it's what you're saying.

In this case it's just a word to emphasize! No different than "This a big huge deal" or whatever.

[bluestateguy]

3. When you accomplish something big in your life kid, we'll let you swear

You might want to start by graduating high school.

[Mz Pip]

4. +10,000

[treestar]

28. +20000

[DeschutesRiver]

62. +30,000. nt

[Inchworm]

113. +32,000,000

:P

stfu!

[amyrose2712]

6. Fuck-off bugger!

"Who gives a shit who gives a fuck!"

[louis-t]

7. Aww, I think it's cute.

I think Biden should jump on it and strive to clean up his language. Good PR. He is a public servant. This ain't the locker room. Dammit.

[ZombieHorde]

121. I don't think Biden should give in to superstition. nt

[salguine]

149. As an olive branch Biden should offer the kid an internship with Rahm Emanuel. Pass the popcorn!

[Cha]

8. We knew this was coming. Snot nose kid..

And, that's not to say any others' this age are..but, this kid is.

[proud patriot]

9. IMO the word fuck is less offensive than the F word Tea-klanners

hurled hatefully at Barney Frank this week .

[dhill926]

11. you've got that right......

fuck the little fucking fucker........

[proud patriot]

18. lol

[old guy]

10. 15 minutes of fame.

[Turbineguy]

13. I'm with ya kid!

Profanity is the crutch of the inarticulate motherfucker.

[salguine]

14. Biden should tell that kid to fuck off. Let me get this straight...

This kid has a "No Cussing Club", manufactures "No Cussing Club" T-shirts and wrist bands, and mailed one of each, along with a penalty jar, to the Vice President.

He also has a website called "nocussing.com", has written a book entitled "The No-Cussing Club" and made a DVD "The Story of the No-Cussing Club".

Whenever I see a kid this heavily into some kind of a moralistic crusade when they're still in their teens, it's almost always a precursor to some kind of horrible meltdown later on. People—young people especially—weren't meant to be this tight-assed. I'm gonna bet that sometime when this kid is in his mid- to late twenties, he goes up on top of a high building with a rifle. Or they find the heads of missing prostitutes in his fridge. Something like that. And the neighbors will all say that he was a quiet kid who, especially, never cussed.

[treestar]

32. +30000

[awoke_in_2003]

68. Yeah, I bet

he is real popular in his high school :)

[mediaman007]

15. Bush• never used bad language, he just put it out there for everyone to see!

[SoxFan]

16. Big Fucking Deal

[Phx_Dem]

17. Fuck off kid. Adults don't take orders from kids.

I'm tickled pink that you don't cuss, but you're not an adult. Adults can cuss if they want to.

STFU.

[nyc 4 Biden]

100. lmao

:spray:

[Botany]

19. eat shit and die you little punk

that young man should learn about Joe Biden and what he went through before giving his 2 cents.

the hours by his kids bedside as they were recovered from the accident, the pain of real loss,
the months of train time to spend time so he could be with his sons every night ....

fuck his little no cussing club.

[Ysabel]

20. oh for fucking sakes...

i'll bet that book makes the best seller list not hahaha...

- i don't believe those figures either (lists his more than 100 appearances on local and national television programs) probably a fucking little liar too...

p.s. who wants to form a "let's cuss at that fucking kid" club (just kidding) lol...

[opihimoimoi]

21. GOP's NIT Orchard Bearing Bumper Crop of Nuts....NIT PICKERS are everywhere

getting them Nit Nuts off the moot level GROUND...

WHISPERS ARE PRIVATE!!!!

nuff said

[scheming daemons]

23. This kid will NEVER EVER get laid..... ever.

[Gman2]

24. Just another Palin Grifter

Someone should teabag him, and see what the first words out of his mouth are. I'll bet it will be, "thats a big fucking gagagagagagagall.....

[Drunken Irishman]

25. You know, if you feel inclined to not swear, more power to you.

But this kid sounds like a condescending douche. I'm guessing in 20 years, he'll be considered the 40-year old virgin.

[bluestateguy]

38. It's a typical adolescent tactic of argument

Try to play gotcha with the adults for not following the rules that are imposed on the kids.

[BlooInBloo]

26. Glad to see the kid has learned the fine art of poutrage as a means of selling shit...

I predict he'll go far in America.

[Cha]

78. In the teabagged America.

[treestar]

27. When I was 17

Nobody listened to my opinion.

seriously, why should anyone care? :rofl:

There are a million other teenagers whose opinions are equally relevant.

[Drunken Irishman]

31. When I was 17, I drank a very good beer. I drank some very good beer I purchased with a fake ID.

My name was Brian McGee. I stayed up listening to Queen. When I was seventeen...

[awoke_in_2003]

69. greatest simpson song ever. nt

[bigdarryl]

30. Someone should ask this little dip shit what about the tea baggers use of the N word

what a bunch of hypocrites there bashing Biden for a word that's heard and used often

[PopSixSquish]

33. This Kid Better Not Ever Spend Time with Rahm or He'll Collapse in a Fit of the Vapors

I have a friend whose worked with him on campaigns in the past and yes, he is as foul-mouthed as everyone thinks. My friend says that it's actually pretty epic to watch. The guy apparently makes up new swear words as he goes along...

Mr. "Undersecretary of Go Fuck Yourself" indeed...

:evilgrin:

[WeekendWarrior]

34. Fuck you, you little turd. nt

[Fire1]

36. I'm so sick and tired of people

imposing and I do mean IMPOSING, their standards onto other people. That was a PRIVATE conversation between two adults that was NOT meant for the public and should be treated as such. Some people need a life.

[thucythucy]

37. This reminds me of

the scene in the Big Lebowski, when the cowboy character tells Jeff "The Dude" Bridges something along the lines of, "You know, you'd be a pretty nice guy if you didn't curse all the time." To which the Dude replies, "What the fuck are you talking about?"

[Sheltiemama]

39. Wonder how he feels about "baby killer" being yelled.

[HughMoran]

40. fer fucks sake n/t

[Jennicut]

41. Aren't there more fucking important things in this world to be concentrating on?

A little cursing killed no one.

[graywarrior]

42. Ass kissing little shit

[awoke_in_2003]

70. maybe...

you should tape that kid to the wall instead :hi:

[graywarrior]

82. Great idea!

[awoke_in_2003]

85. But you're still not going...

to free that duck, are you? :)

[graywarrior]

94. NEVER EVER EVER EVER! ! ! ! ! ! ! !

[JI7]

43. i could maybe understand if this was a 7 year old kid, but 17 ?????????

there are so many problems in the country and around the world and this is what he has a problem with ? it's not even something i consider to be a problem.

he seems like the type of republicans who talk about family values and how Bush was a good moral guy and other shit and took no issue with going to war and seeing innocents killed.

[jillan]

44. Hatch?? Is this kid related to Orrin?

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[emilyg]

47. Your vocabulary is most

impressive. Ivy League?

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[political_Dem]

46. He needs to leave V.P. Biden alone and haunt John Mayer.

John Mayer needs to be barred from music and interviews for being a lousy musician as well as shooting off his mouth.

Otherwise, this kid is a pest who needs to focus on his SAT's and leave the adults to do what they choose without his snide input.

[Zynx]

48. People who get bent out of shape about a swear or two can fuck off.

[Liberal_Stalwart71]

50. Let's see... "Dumbya" called someone an "asshole." Cheney told a distinguished senator to go

"fuck" himself. No one said a word. They thought it was "cute".

For Biden? He's a menace to society!!

Shut the fuck up kid, indeed!!!

Kick and FUCKING recommended!!!

[Rage Inc.]

51. Shouldn't this little twerp be masturbating?

All the while playing teh vidjoe gamze?

[glinda]

52. Kid needs attention does he? A good Republican in the making....

[spoony]

53. I don't know whom I want to give a wedgie to more

This kid or whatever petty infotainment editor decided this jaw-droppingly stupid story was worth disseminating to the world.

[saracat]

55. Actually, the kid is correct. This is no more acceptable than when Cheney doe it or Rahn does it.

Inappropriate is inappropriate no matter the letter after your name. This was an inappropriate reaction to something that was an historic event.

[Teaser]

65. STFU

.

[CBR]

66. For Fuck's Sake.... nt

[Starbucks Anarchist]

84. Because Biden spoke directly into the mic knowing it would be heard.

:eyes:

Why don't you grow up and worry about real issues instead of being the cursing police?

[saracat]

86. LOL! Many don't care about those either. The fan clubs that have no idea what

they support jeer at substantive interest in real issues.

[Starbucks Anarchist]

87. Just because many people don't criticize Obama 24/7 like you do doesn't make them cheerleaders.

Unlike you, many people weigh each issue individually, pro and con, instead of always criticizing him no matter what he does.

And considering how much you hate this bill, I find it ironic that you are so worried about an errant curse at Obama's statement about it.

[saracat]

89. It is odd how some only notice if I do not agree with Obama. The times I have praised him are

completely ignored. Apparently some feel if one doesn't think the president walks on water , one must hate him. I don't.Some of what he has tried to do is worth considering. I have always said he is better than Mccain but to me he is just a politician.And as far as the "cursing" goes, I refuse to be hypocritical about it. I can't stand when any public figure does that be it Biden, Cheney or Rahm. Some think because it is from one of our own it is "different and is now "cool" or "cute" it isn't and Biden, who I have always liked, knows better than this.

[Starbucks Anarchist]

95. Praised him? When?

:rofl:

[saracat]

98. You prove my point. I praised him for calling for the repeal of the Insurance antitrust protection

among other things. I also praised him for calling for the repeal of DADT but criticized him when he asked for it to be delayed.I could search and find more but why bother? Any criticism of the president is an anathema to you. Unless I kneel and say he is the greatest who ever lived, it isn't acceptable to some.

[Starbucks Anarchist]

109. Nice strawman.

I never said you couldn't criticize him or that I myself never do, let alone demanding you worship the man.

And finding just two instances of you supporting him when there have been dozens of posts criticizing him for the most mundane things doesn't cut it.

[saracat]

110. I agree there are more posts criticizing because I feel he has done more worth criticizing than is

praise worthy. But I have praised him on more than two occasions but I am too lazy to look them up. I am just saying some can't seem to separate the man from the policies. I do not hate him. I don't love him. I really don't care about him per se. Should he be our next nominee, I would vote for him against the GOP. I voted for him in the General last time. I am just not impressed with him. Many of his policies anger me. So what? Some think this is a big deal.I just don't believe in being a "fan" of any pol. I used to be more fascinated by them as people when I was young. I had a huge crush on both Eugene McCarthy and George McGovern.As I grow older I realize they all only support the peoples interest when it collides with their own. Just my opinion.

[Starbucks Anarchist]

111. Again, it's not about being a "fan" or liking or disliking him personally.

Personally, I do like him, but I am not a "fan" of any politician, and I will criticize him or others when they're wrong.

It just seems that you personally are front and center about criticizing him for just about everything he does, even when they're positive things. When posters like you seem to make it a point to do so, your gripes seem less and less legitimate, that's all. My two cents.

[saracat]

112. So if I pretend to like his education policies or the HCR Mandate do I become more credible?

Should I withhold criticism because I am complaining too much? What about the fans posting endless praise? Do they lack credibility for praising too much? I am just curious what yardstick one uses to judge these things.

[Starbucks Anarchist]

114. Of course not.

It's just that the longstanding pattern you've pursued of criticizing him for even insignificant things, or things beyond his control, have made what would normally be legitimate criticisms of his policies ring hollow.

And as far as people posting endless praise, I don't think that's healthy, either, though I admit it's a nice contrast to the numerous posters who make Obama look like the reincarnation of Satan.

[saracat]

115. Okay. Gotcha. Excessive praise is a nice contrast, too much criticism lacks credibility

BTW, this whole thread had nothing to do with the president. I merely commented about not thinking the F word was appropriate in commentary during an historic event. I made no remarks about Obama initially at all. You introduced the subject of the president.

[Name removed]

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[saltpoint]

90. Biden's invocation of coarse terminology was used to affirm a landmark

piece of legislation.

Cheney's remark to Senator Leahy was a personal attack.

saracat, take a couple of minutes once in a while to sort things out. You're not even close on this one.

[saracat]

116. Sorry in both instances the choice of verbiage was in question.

Whatever. Vulgar language is not appropriate for elected officials in public. But I suppose some will argue I am being Miss Manners about this. Too bad. And it isn't as though I too don't drop F bombs or sometimes use the F word as an adjective but I certainly would never do so on an official occasion. I am sure Joe Biden knows the difference. private speech is a whole lot different and his remarks were far from private speech.

[saltpoint]

118. Certain folks use coarse speech in certain circumstances, saracat.

And they always have.

And they always will.

That said, whether you prefer public or official displays of decorum or not, Joe Biden said that the bill just passed by the Congress was a "big fucking deal." Note the coarse selection of adjective but note primarily the affirmation. His remark exuberantly endorsed his boss' accomplishment. My guess is that the enthusiasm was genuine, even as it is well-earned.

What Dick Cheney said to Patrick Leahy was NOT affirming. It was a snide and dismissive "Go fuck yourself." That is an attack.

There's no argument, IMO, equating those two remarks solely on the basis of slang derivation.

[saracat]

123. Who knew?So "F***K used as an affirmative adjective by a public official is acceptable but in

anger as a directive it is not?Okey dokey. I do not agree,but whatever. It all comes down to double standards. I still say this was at best in poor taste.

[saltpoint]

124. How did you ever sit through a Jack Nicholson film, saracat? Did you

tear for the exits at the first hint of salty speech?

How did you ever tolerate a public restroom wall? ARe you so fragile that naughty language unhinges you?

I gave you the distinction between Biden's speech and Cheney's.

You've chosen not to pay any attention to it. You babble on about "double standards" and "poor taste."

Ridiculous. This subthread was occasioned by your off-handed false equation. You ought to reconsider. You've missed the point by a long, long mile.

[Starbucks Anarchist]

125. Actually, she's a major hypocrite:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=389&topic_id=3698080&mesg_id=3698208

"Fuck the National Inquirer."

[saltpoint]

126. Hi, Starbucks Anarchist. You know, on a purely selfish note, I think the

whole world would run a lot smoother if it conformed to my exact specifications. I'd like this in place by say, close of business this Friday.

Now. In the OFF-CHANCE that it doesn't conform to my way of thinking, I'm willing to navigate through it on the terms I'm given. One of those terms, or sets of terms, is that certain folks in subcultures speak coarsely. Construction workers. Truck drivers. Ball-players. Vice presidents. 6th graders on the detention bus after school. My grandfather (who was cuss-deaf).

Soldiers. Short-order cooks. John Mayer. The list is pretty long, actually.

I did try to make a point on language in support of a Democratic Vice President I have loved a long time. Evidently I came up well short.

At least it ended on a positive note having occasioned my getting to say hello to you and thanks for the brainy posts on this site. I wish you a spring time full of more daffodils than can be counted.

:hi:

[Starbucks Anarchist]

127. Thank you, and the same to you.

:hi:

[saracat]

129. And did you skip the part where I said I use such language but not at

important events? Seriously, you equate one of my posts on DU with a quote by a sitting VP's comment on historic legislation made before lots of televison cameras with the world watching? I guess I should be honored.

[Starbucks Anarchist]

133. Which comes back to my point that Biden didn't say it into the mic.

He said it in a moment of excitement to Obama directly, in what he thought was outside of microphone range, and you act as if he meant to "sully" the whole occasion on purpose.

And you wondering where people draw the line seems ironic because you yourself use the word. Apparently, it's good enough for you, but not public officials, even when they don't intentionally say it publicly.

[saracat]

139. First of all, It was obvious there were mikes present and Biden should have been aware and I am not

as affronted by Biden as I am by those who would defend the use of such verbiage during such an occasion.Either Biden could have apologized, or done a big whoops and it would have been over but some folks are "celebrating" this use of the F word as a good thing. It is not. At best it was a mistake.

[Starbucks Anarchist]

144. It's silly and trivial to even think it rises to the level of a mistake.

It was an understandable reaction to a victory one year in the making.

[saracat]

145. Okey Dokey. Whatever. Always acceptable.

[DevonRex]

135. Now that is fucking hilarious. Note also that on a site that cannot be

linked here (because it lives to trash DU) Obama was said to have a continuing "lack of class and leadership" for not calling Biden out on his use of the f-word.

[saracat]

140. Honestly I do not see the connection with Obama in this instance.

[saracat]

128. You choose to misread what I said. I said I use such language myself. But I would never use such

language to describe an historic event when I "knew" my words would be televised and recorded. Having attended several state inaugurations and such events I can't imagine expressing myself with the F word under those conditions. Do you think it would be appropriate to go through a receiving line at an event and comment "Wow, this is a fucking big deal" ? Where does one draw the line? I read your distinction and I don't accept it as valid, nor do I think Jack Nicholson, who I really enjoy has anything to do with this use of this verbiage or its appropriateness in the given situation.
I am not using a "false equivocation". Both the Cheney use of this verbiage , in its place and time, as well as the Biden usage, were inappropriate. I guess we will have to agree to disagree.

[saltpoint]

130. Well, just for the record, I like Nicholson's films.

Especially FIVE EASY PIECES. With Nicholson and Karen Black.

As good as it gets in American cinema, IMO.

[saracat]

143. Well, we can agree on that!" Hold the mayo!"

[saltpoint]

147. - - -

:thumbsup:

[Mimosa]

138. ITA Saracat.

Whether it's Dick Cheney or Joe Biden, profanity and crudeness just lower the tone of discourse.

[saracat]

141. Exactly. Well put. Thank you.

[RFKHumphreyObama]

56. Lemme guess though...it was OK with him that Dumbya called someone a major league asshole

and Cheney told a Senator to go fuck himself. Which was worse than Biden because Biden wasn't actually directing it at anyone.

Why do these concern trolls always come out during Democratic administrations and disappear when a Republican is in charge? Oh I think I know why

[renate]

57. hell no you can't (scold Biden but not Boehner, that is)

:eyes:

[mitchum]

58. Fuck that little bluenose

[saltpoint]

59. Over some years politicians have been known to use coarse speech.

Maybe Mr. Hatch should do a bit of reading and a little less book hawking.

[JVS]

60. I always thought the No Cussing Club was some stupid fucking bullshit.

[Perky]

61. I think the kid is smart as Hell

He is amking a mint doing what he is doing. selling T-shirts and leveraging opportunity to sell more t-shirts,

[awoke_in_2003]

71. i don't know...

how many high schoolers would involve themselves in such a club? At 17, the only thing I could think of was getting laid, not who was cussing.

[Perky]

77. ha.. well I was thinking about the kids of fundies

or maybe the fundy parents trying to indoctrinate their kids.

[awoke_in_2003]

80. lots of fundie kids...

down here. Lots of them take abstinence pledges. We have one of the highest teenage pregnancy rates in the country.

[liquid diamond]

63. Fuck that little fucker.

[Christa]

64. Fucking nerd

I am glad he is not my child.

[tekisui]

67. It sounds like an advertising gimmick.

People say fuck in the real world. Get fucking used to it.

[Warren Stupidity]

72. Fucking bullshit.

[SoxFan]

73. Phuck

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=26UA578yQ5g

[Jeff In Milwaukee]

74. ALL RIGHT! All of you mother fuckers put a quarter in the swear jar!

[WinkyDink]

75. Perhaps his Texas-approved History Book will include Bush's "F*** Saddam."

[Ikonoklast]

76. Teenage Pissant.

Stay permanently offended, kid, and peddle your stupid ass book on someone else's fame.

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

79. This little shit's website was hacked awhile back.

[mrs_p]

81. can't stand goody-two-shoes. nt

[Starbucks Anarchist]

83. McKay Hatch needs to shut the fuck up.

[eyeofdelphi]

88. certainly illustrates the diversity of the word

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Q1g8HAAmsA

[FrenchieCat]

91. That little guy is gonna make a lot of fucking money!

Wonder who taught him how to take fucking advantage of shit happening,
in order to make a boatfuckingload of bucks!

[JimGinPA]

92. What A Poopyhead!

Nothing irritates me more than someone who wants to impose their particular "morality" on others.

[SemiCharmedQuark]

93. Yep, teens didn't curse before Biden just like teens didn't have oral sex before the Clenis

Oh you wayward Democrats, won't you please think of the children?!?!

[mkultra]

96. he's right. We should stop this slide of cussing politicians

its becoming too acceptable. We are becoming idiocracy.

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

97. "We are becoming idiocracy."

This kid and his apologists are idiocracy.

[CBR]

101. Being upset about the word Fuck is idiocracy. nt

[mkultra]

134. perhaps, and maybe this kid is grinding an axe

but i personally think that the instance of politicians cursing for attention is growing. Its nothing to get angry about but i don't think we should support it.

[nyc 4 Biden]

102. 17?? If the kid was ten this would be cute. But 17...

Shit at 17 I was a grown man drinkin hooch and smoking cigars at the racetrack with loose women. Ok maybe not that last part.

[iamthebandfanman]

104. yeah...

at 17 youd think this kind of crusade would get the ole "L" stamped on ur forehead real quick by ur peers... lol

social death.... oh wait, the poor kid woulda had to of had a social life...

[whistler162]

103. Yeah how dare a teenager have a opinion and voice it.... unless...

that opinion agrees with mine!

Instead of applauding, and maybe disagreeing with his opinion, a lot of posters want to shut the kid down.

I guess next time teenager X voices a opinion that agrees with something you believe in they should just SHUT the HECK UP!

[Cha]

106. Everybody gets an opinion..I disagree with

this teenager's skaking his finger at VP Biden. It is a Big Fucking Deal.

[CBR]

107. Nobody is shutting him down, just saying his opinion is stupid --

Are you going to applaud my opinion or shut me down?!?

[Jennicut]

108. I have been into politics since I was 16. I would never tell a teen to shut up. But many of us

disagree with him. Simple as that.

[saltpoint]

122. I think it's interesting that your avatar, Mr. Truman, could turn the air blue

around him with some of the most coarse speech ever heard on a tarmac or in a conference room.

Would you defend Mr. Hatch if he tried to censor ol' Harry?

[Cha]

105. Oh, I hear this teenager isn't the only one..

only it's not VP Biden..they're blaming President Obama for going along with it and then claiming it means he has no class.:cry::silly:

And, although it sounds like freepers..they're suppose to be dems.

[mwooldri]

119. Guess what? Gordon Ramsay's just offered him an apprenticeship!

To Hells' Kitchen he goes!

[ZombieHorde]

120. I have never heard a good argument against swearing.

People have tried to tell me I am wrong for letting my kids swear, but when I ask them why they have no answer. Superstition has many forms.

[SpartanDem]

131. This kid deserves to be stuffed in a locker

[saracat]

142. That isn't even cute . Bullying is not a joke.

[Democat]

132. Dumb ass!

What a little ass kisser (or right winger) this kid probably is.

[Toasterlad]

137. Best Possible Response From Biden: "Fuck Off, Dork."

[jeanmarc]

146. Fucking A

[FreedomRain]

148. The kid sounds like he just saw a mo money opportunity for his biz

Nothing to get worked up about.

The VP, of course, was inappropriate. However, when I first heard about it, my immediate impression was "Well at least I know this is something he really does believe in and what's more, believes that the President believes." That actually put a lot of doubts about the non-progressive facets of the bill to rest in my mind.

Now suppose that was the idea all along and it wasn't a true slip :O ?