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NJmaverick
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Fri Apr-02-10 04:24 PM Original message |
When a president is far ahead of the country. |
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Kurt_and_Hunter
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Fri Apr-02-10 04:28 PM Response to Original message |
1. We are not worthy of him |
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NJmaverick
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Fri Apr-02-10 04:31 PM Response to Reply #1 |
2. More like we are damn lucky to have him as our President |
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barbiegeek
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Tue Apr-06-10 07:51 AM Response to Reply #2 |
139. Yes we are, and all we do is bitch |
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Sat Apr-03-10 11:38 PM Response to Reply #1 |
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vaberella
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Fri Apr-02-10 04:32 PM Response to Original message |
3. Unfortunately, we are a people who rewards shit and hates on others who try for us. |
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political_Dem
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Fri Apr-02-10 10:33 PM Response to Reply #3 |
40. +1 |
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graywarrior
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Fri Apr-02-10 04:38 PM Response to Original message |
4. We are a nation of stupid, that's for damn sure |
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NJmaverick
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Fri Apr-02-10 08:38 PM Response to Reply #4 |
20. Yes and sadly it shows through in the places you would least expect it |
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old mark
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Fri Apr-02-10 05:45 PM Response to Original message |
5. I think some of our people are wishing for the return of th 19th century.... |
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Hekate
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Sun Apr-04-10 01:26 AM Response to Reply #5 |
131. God knows Bushco tried hard enough. They got rid of a century of consumer protections... |
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old mark
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Sun Apr-04-10 12:58 PM Response to Reply #131 |
132. I believe Bush's regime damaged us in ways we don't even realize, and maybe never will. |
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Jennicut
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Fri Apr-02-10 06:09 PM Response to Original message |
6. Eh, it is one poll from CBS. Gallup has him at 50% today. |
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Fri Apr-02-10 06:30 PM Response to Reply #6 |
8. People are wigging out and trolling the CBS poll. Gallup shows him at 50 and holding. |
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Jennicut
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Fri Apr-02-10 06:41 PM Response to Reply #8 |
9. Not to mention the undecided on this poll is 15%. |
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jenmito
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Fri Apr-02-10 07:19 PM Response to Reply #6 |
10. I love how realclearpolitics uses Rasmussen but not Research 2000/dKos. |
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NJmaverick
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Fri Apr-02-10 08:54 PM Response to Reply #6 |
22. I did some internet digging and found it was not the best polling method |
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depakid
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Fri Apr-02-10 06:25 PM Response to Original message |
7. Yep- Obama's a "new" Democrats- and enabling & legitimizing Republican policy is visionary |
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Fri Apr-02-10 07:32 PM Response to Reply #7 |
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ClarkUSA
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Fri Apr-02-10 07:45 PM Response to Reply #7 |
13. Obama has never chosen to be a member of the DLC. |
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depakid
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Fri Apr-02-10 08:07 PM Response to Reply #13 |
15. Did I say that? |
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ClarkUSA
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Fri Apr-02-10 08:17 PM Response to Reply #15 |
16. You implied it with your 'Obama's a "new" Democrats' claim. |
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IndianaGreen
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Fri Apr-02-10 09:50 PM Response to Reply #13 |
29. Obama referred to himself as a 'New Democrat,' lingo for DLC |
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ClarkUSA
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Fri Apr-02-10 10:12 PM Response to Reply #29 |
32. A dubious quote from unnamed sources by a Politico media whore is no substitute for the truth. |
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IndianaGreen
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Fri Apr-02-10 10:32 PM Response to Reply #32 |
38. DLC's Bruce Reed said the same thing about Obama: 'New Democrat' |
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ClarkUSA
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Fri Apr-02-10 10:40 PM Response to Reply #38 |
42. Wishful thinking on Reed's part. Obama publicly rejected DLC membership in 2003. |
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IndianaGreen
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Fri Apr-02-10 10:42 PM Response to Reply #42 |
43. In2003, Obama was a lot of things to make us think he was one of us |
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ClarkUSA
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Fri Apr-02-10 10:46 PM Response to Reply #43 |
46. The truth stands: Obama publicly rejected DLC membership way back in 2003. n/t |
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IndianaGreen
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Fri Apr-02-10 10:58 PM Response to Reply #46 |
48. The truth stands: Obama has given us a DLC Administration |
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ClarkUSA
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Fri Apr-02-10 11:10 PM Response to Reply #48 |
51. That's an opinion, not a fact. The truth is that he publicly rejected DLC membership in 2003. n/t |
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Fri Apr-02-10 11:22 PM Response to Reply #51 |
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dionysus
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Tue Apr-06-10 11:13 AM Response to Reply #43 |
140. oh for christ's sake... |
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sabrina 1
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Sat Apr-03-10 03:19 AM Response to Reply #32 |
59. Obama was featured on the DLC website |
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ClarkUSA
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Sat Apr-03-10 08:08 AM Response to Reply #59 |
64. They did it w/o Obama's permission and he made them remove it. |
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IndianaGreen
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Sat Apr-03-10 12:32 PM Response to Reply #64 |
84. Like you said, Obama 'does not endorse DLC policies,' he merely implements them |
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ClarkUSA
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Sat Apr-03-10 03:10 PM Response to Reply #84 |
99. He personally did that? I guess Congress had nothing to do with creating the HCR bill, eh? |
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sabrina 1
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Sat Apr-03-10 04:04 PM Response to Reply #64 |
107. Yep, that's what he said. He also said he was opposed |
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ClarkUSA
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Sat Apr-03-10 04:59 PM Response to Reply #107 |
119. Unless you have evidence that proves otherwise, the truth is Barack Obama rejected DLC membership. |
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sabrina 1
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Sat Apr-03-10 05:08 PM Response to Reply #119 |
120. Obama fought for the PO? |
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ClarkUSA
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Sat Apr-03-10 05:27 PM Response to Reply #120 |
122. LEGISLATIVE REALITY CHECK: The PO didn't have the votes, period. |
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sabrina 1
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Sat Apr-03-10 06:47 PM Response to Reply #122 |
123. Eh, no they didn't get over it. |
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ClarkUSA
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Sat Apr-03-10 07:03 PM Response to Reply #123 |
124. They did because they voted for it with good grace and complimented President Obama's efforts. |
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sabrina 1
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Sat Apr-03-10 07:16 PM Response to Reply #124 |
125. No, they did not. If you read Kucinich's statement you would |
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ClarkUSA
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Sat Apr-03-10 07:22 PM Response to Reply #125 |
126. Prove it. I've seen & read everything Kucinich has said since his pro-HCR vote. |
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sabrina 1
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Sat Apr-03-10 11:21 PM Response to Reply #126 |
128. The burden of proof is on you. You claimed that Kucinich |
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ClarkUSA
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Sun Apr-04-10 01:13 PM Response to Reply #128 |
134. You're making another false claim. I never said that. Guess you can't back up your claims, eh? |
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Forkboy
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Fri Apr-02-10 10:15 PM Response to Reply #13 |
33. Does he have to? |
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ClarkUSA
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Fri Apr-02-10 10:23 PM Response to Reply #33 |
36. Yes. Your insinuation is subjective but the truth is not. n/t |
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Forkboy
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Fri Apr-02-10 10:27 PM Response to Reply #36 |
37. We all bow before your lock on the truth. |
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ClarkUSA
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Fri Apr-02-10 10:32 PM Response to Reply #37 |
39. Then prove me wrong with evidence that Obama is a DLC member in good standing. You can't. n/t |
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Forkboy
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Fri Apr-02-10 10:39 PM Response to Reply #39 |
41. Like I said, does he have to? |
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ClarkUSA
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Fri Apr-02-10 10:42 PM Response to Reply #41 |
44. Yes, he does. Just ask the Clintons. BTW, Obama himself rejected membership in the DLC in 2003. |
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Forkboy
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Fri Apr-02-10 11:42 PM Response to Reply #44 |
56. You're right...that what's he said.....in 2003. |
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ClarkUSA
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Sat Apr-03-10 08:11 AM Response to Reply #56 |
65. Splitting hairs still does not change the truth: Obama has rejected DLC membership since 2003. n/t |
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IndianaGreen
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Sat Apr-03-10 12:34 PM Response to Reply #65 |
85. Like he rejected Rev Wright's church once it became politically necessary |
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ClarkUSA
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Sat Apr-03-10 03:12 PM Response to Reply #85 |
100. That's yet another opinion, not a fact. n/t |
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IndianaGreen
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Fri Apr-02-10 10:43 PM Response to Reply #39 |
45. Obama is most definitely a DLC fellow traveller |
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ClarkUSA
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Fri Apr-02-10 10:48 PM Response to Reply #45 |
47. Your opinion is no substitute for the truth which is Obama rejected DLC membership way back in 2003. |
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IndianaGreen
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Fri Apr-02-10 10:59 PM Response to Reply #47 |
49. Obama rejected mandates for health care in 2007 and 2008 |
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ClarkUSA
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Fri Apr-02-10 11:17 PM Response to Reply #49 |
52. He got HCR passed in 2010, something past presidents have failed miserably at achieving. n/t |
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IndianaGreen
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Fri Apr-02-10 11:24 PM Response to Reply #52 |
55. He passed an industry-written bill that will give us a massive BOHICA |
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ClarkUSA
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Sat Apr-03-10 08:23 AM Response to Reply #55 |
66. That is another opinion, not a fact. n/t |
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NJmaverick
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Fri Apr-02-10 08:32 PM Response to Reply #7 |
18. Do you honestly think any of the listed accomplishments are something |
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Fri Apr-02-10 07:37 PM Response to Original message |
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ClarkUSA
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Fri Apr-02-10 08:01 PM Response to Original message |
14. I read a story that the most trustworthy poll, according to pollsters, is the one by WaPo/ABC. |
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Fri Apr-02-10 08:22 PM Response to Original message |
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NJmaverick
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Fri Apr-02-10 08:33 PM Response to Reply #17 |
19. . |
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BrklynLiberal
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Fri Apr-02-10 08:43 PM Response to Original message |
21. k and r |
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IndianaGreen
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Fri Apr-02-10 09:42 PM Response to Original message |
23. When a President loses touch with the country |
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ClarkUSA
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Fri Apr-02-10 09:45 PM Response to Reply #23 |
25. Which part of the country are you talking about? Faux News territory? |
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IndianaGreen
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Fri Apr-02-10 09:52 PM Response to Reply #25 |
30. Come down to the Midwest, the heart of America |
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ClarkUSA
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Fri Apr-02-10 10:03 PM Response to Reply #30 |
31. So you speak for the entire Midwest now? Color me impressed! |
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Forkboy
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Fri Apr-02-10 10:16 PM Response to Reply #31 |
34. What part of the country are you speaking for? |
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ruggerson
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Sat Apr-03-10 04:39 PM Response to Reply #34 |
114. Lamelandia |
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ClarkUSA
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Sat Apr-03-10 04:53 PM Response to Reply #34 |
118. I speak WITH the large majority of liberal Dems who approve of Pres. Obama in poll after poll. n/t |
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Lydia Leftcoast
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Fri Apr-02-10 09:43 PM Response to Original message |
24. AHEAD? |
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NJmaverick
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Fri Apr-02-10 09:46 PM Response to Reply #24 |
26. Yeah the republicans are ecstatic at what the President has accomplished |
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Lydia Leftcoast
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Fri Apr-02-10 09:50 PM Response to Reply #26 |
28. That's because they're Republican Heavy and Obama's only Republican Lite |
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vaberella
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Sat Apr-03-10 08:45 AM Response to Reply #28 |
70. Absolutely ridiculous statements. |
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Lydia Leftcoast
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Sat Apr-03-10 09:25 AM Response to Reply #70 |
76. Well, I'll revise my statement: |
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IndianaGreen
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Sat Apr-03-10 12:37 PM Response to Reply #76 |
86. K&R |
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HughMoran
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Fri Apr-02-10 09:49 PM Response to Reply #24 |
27. . |
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Forkboy
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Fri Apr-02-10 10:17 PM Response to Reply #27 |
35. Your message to gays.... |
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Fri Apr-02-10 11:08 PM Response to Original message |
50. Where are my hip boots? |
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TheKentuckian
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Fri Apr-02-10 11:21 PM Response to Original message |
53. A visionary path to a corporate state! |
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Sat Apr-03-10 12:00 AM Response to Original message |
57. Far ahead of you, perhaps. |
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Sat Apr-03-10 12:18 AM Response to Reply #57 |
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Sat Apr-03-10 05:56 AM Response to Original message |
60. Look he's doing some good things |
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NJmaverick
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Sat Apr-03-10 07:53 AM Response to Reply #60 |
63. I am not following your point, are you suggesting no matter what was done the economy was going to |
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Sat Apr-03-10 08:45 AM Response to Reply #63 |
71. Which is ludicrous in and of itself. n/t |
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NJmaverick
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Sat Apr-03-10 09:16 AM Response to Reply #71 |
75. Which stands to reason, since the is how the majority of attacks on President Obama |
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Sat Apr-03-10 06:38 AM Response to Original message |
61. Ah, contempt for the people. Gotta love the New Democrats. nt |
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NJmaverick
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Sat Apr-03-10 07:01 AM Response to Reply #61 |
62. The new liberals are all about putting ideology ahead of people |
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Sat Apr-03-10 01:13 PM Response to Reply #62 |
88. Thank goodness that the Supremes have reinforced the |
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Sat Apr-03-10 08:35 AM Response to Reply #61 |
68. Are you talking about New Democrats like Hillary & Bill Clinton? That explains DADT, DOMA, NAFTA... |
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Sat Apr-03-10 10:32 AM Response to Reply #68 |
77. Yeah, they weren't very good were they? nt |
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IndianaGreen
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Sat Apr-03-10 01:16 PM Response to Reply #61 |
89. New Democrats are as bad as New Labour |
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Sat Apr-03-10 08:31 AM Response to Original message |
67. Thank you for the hilarious headline. |
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NJmaverick
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Sat Apr-03-10 08:38 AM Response to Reply #67 |
69. By guys it appears you mean liberals and Democrats |
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Sat Apr-03-10 08:48 AM Response to Reply #69 |
72. Yeah, Right. |
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IndianaGreen
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Sat Apr-03-10 11:23 AM Response to Reply #69 |
79. Liberals are under Obama's bus |
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ClarkUSA
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Sat Apr-03-10 11:25 AM Response to Reply #79 |
80. No, Bill Clinton threw liberals and LGBTs under the bus via Dick Morris, DADT and DOMA. |
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Sat Apr-03-10 03:37 PM Response to Reply #80 |
103. This time it's environmentalists, first amendment activists, |
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ClarkUSA
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Sat Apr-03-10 03:42 PM Response to Reply #103 |
105. Your polemic indicates that you haven't been reading the news lately. |
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freddie mertz
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Sat Apr-03-10 04:25 PM Response to Reply #105 |
110. You conveniently left out a few things. |
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ClarkUSA
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Sat Apr-03-10 04:35 PM Response to Reply #110 |
112. I offered a couple of examples of how your polemic was demonstrably false. |
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Sat Apr-03-10 04:41 PM Response to Reply #112 |
116. You were selective. |
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ClarkUSA
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Sat Apr-03-10 04:50 PM Response to Reply #116 |
117. No, I was taking the first point in your polemic and proving it false. |
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freddie mertz
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Sat Apr-03-10 08:52 AM Response to Original message |
73. Unrec'd back to zero.nt. |
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Sat Apr-03-10 08:59 AM Response to Reply #73 |
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Sat Apr-03-10 11:34 AM Response to Reply #73 |
81. Not anymore. n/t |
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freddie mertz
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Sat Apr-03-10 02:27 PM Response to Reply #81 |
90. I tried. |
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ClarkUSA
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Sat Apr-03-10 02:48 PM Response to Reply #90 |
93. And failed. n/t |
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freddie mertz
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Sat Apr-03-10 02:59 PM Response to Reply #93 |
94. 4 recs is hardly a triumph. |
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ClarkUSA
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Sat Apr-03-10 03:01 PM Response to Reply #94 |
95. "some folks live for this stuff" Yes, they do... your original reply proves that. |
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freddie mertz
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Sat Apr-03-10 03:04 PM Response to Reply #95 |
96. And you responded to it in kind. |
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ClarkUSA
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Sat Apr-03-10 03:04 PM Response to Reply #96 |
97. Back to 5 recs and the Greatest page now. n/t |
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freddie mertz
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Sat Apr-03-10 03:09 PM Response to Reply #97 |
98. We shall see. |
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freddie mertz
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Tue Apr-06-10 07:25 AM Response to Reply #97 |
136. Ain't gonna make it. |
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Sat Apr-03-10 04:28 PM Response to Reply #73 |
111. Rec. |
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Sat Apr-03-10 10:59 AM Response to Original message |
78. Yes, he is decades ahead on marriage equality |
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Sat Apr-03-10 11:45 AM Response to Reply #78 |
82. You know, I'm a gay women but the top of my agenda IS NOT |
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Sat Apr-03-10 11:48 AM Response to Reply #82 |
83. Right, gay Americans are selfish for wanting equality under the law |
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freddie mertz
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Sat Apr-03-10 02:29 PM Response to Reply #83 |
91. You gotta realize: Personality trumps principle every time. |
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Sat Apr-03-10 03:31 PM Response to Reply #91 |
101. Sad, isn't it? |
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freddie mertz
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Sat Apr-03-10 03:35 PM Response to Reply #101 |
102. No matter what the issue, or how extreme the move to the right. |
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ClarkUSA
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Sat Apr-03-10 03:56 PM Response to Reply #102 |
106. And no matter what the issue, or how much is accomplished legislatively by this President... |
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freddie mertz
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Sat Apr-03-10 04:23 PM Response to Reply #106 |
108. Nonsense. |
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ClarkUSA
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Sat Apr-03-10 04:36 PM Response to Reply #108 |
113. Not at all. I see it happening here at DU 24/7 and always by the same critics. n/t |
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Sat Apr-03-10 04:40 PM Response to Reply #113 |
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Tue Apr-06-10 07:25 AM Response to Reply #113 |
137. Ain't it awful? nt. |
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ClarkUSA
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Sat Apr-03-10 02:44 PM Response to Reply #82 |
92. Thank you for speaking up. |
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Sat Apr-03-10 03:38 PM Response to Reply #92 |
104. Which red herring are you applauding? |
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Sat Apr-03-10 01:07 PM Response to Original message |
87. Saddens me deeply because Jimmy Carter was one of those. Way ahead of the country |
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Sat Apr-03-10 04:23 PM Response to Reply #87 |
109. Absolutely correct!! |
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NJmaverick
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Sat Apr-03-10 07:30 PM Response to Reply #87 |
127. Very true |
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Sat Apr-03-10 05:26 PM Response to Original message |
121. You either lead......or get out of the way |
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Sun Apr-04-10 01:18 AM Response to Original message |
130. We're not worthy, we're not worthy. nt |
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Sun Apr-04-10 01:03 PM Response to Original message |
133. As long as he keeps doing the right thing that's all anyone can ask for, poll figures are ... |
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135. Obama is on pace to win a second term as President |
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138. What a bizarre excuse. Democracy is supposed to be about the will of the *people*, remember? |
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