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babylonsister (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-11-10 12:47 PM Original message |
Why the U.S. recovery will be bigger, faster, and stronger than economists and politicians expect. |
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bluestateguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-11-10 12:50 PM Response to Original message |
1. People forget |
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CountAllVotes (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-11-10 12:59 PM Response to Reply #1 |
3. and then there was ... |
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Writer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-11-10 03:10 PM Response to Reply #3 |
16. The dot com boom wasn't a bubble... |
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unblock (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-11-10 03:37 PM Response to Reply #16 |
17. oh it was certainly a bubble, all right. |
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Go2Peace (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-12-10 01:14 AM Response to Reply #17 |
41. Actually it wasn't, that was just what made the headlines. What really happened was the jobs left |
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unblock (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-12-10 05:33 AM Response to Reply #41 |
47. that doesn't address my point |
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Grand Taurean (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-11-10 08:36 PM Response to Reply #16 |
33. Correct. |
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Go2Peace (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-12-10 01:13 AM Response to Reply #3 |
40. Exactly, until the fundamentals change we just get a big BUBBLE and another CRASH |
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Greyhound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-11-10 01:27 PM Response to Reply #1 |
6. Apparently people also forget that the "recovery" was not a recovery at all, but |
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On the Road (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-11-10 12:57 PM Response to Original message |
2. Once Recoveries Get Traction, They Tend to Explode |
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girl gone mad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-11-10 06:05 PM Response to Reply #2 |
24. Okay, I'm looking. |
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Go2Peace (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-12-10 01:18 AM Response to Reply #24 |
42. Because we are contiuing to massively print dollars, far more than in the last recession |
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On the Road (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-12-10 02:05 PM Response to Reply #24 |
51. Look at the Angle of the Recoveries |
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eridani (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-12-10 04:48 AM Response to Reply #2 |
46. What planet are you from? The Aughts had close to ZERO net job creation |
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On the Road (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-12-10 02:34 PM Response to Reply #46 |
52. I Realize There Was No Net Job Creation This Decade |
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eridani (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-13-10 01:03 AM Response to Reply #52 |
57. So, we are looking at the prospect of FIFTEEN FUCKING YEARS with |
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On the Road (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-13-10 02:07 PM Response to Reply #57 |
59. Before the Recession, |
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Peacetrain (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-11-10 01:04 PM Response to Original message |
4. Yep!.. that is how more and more are seeing it ... and our coming back strong |
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The Doctor. (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-11-10 01:28 PM Response to Reply #4 |
8. No, they'll just go back to saying it was the Bush tax cuts finally kicking in. |
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saltpoint (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-11-10 01:20 PM Response to Original message |
5. Any sort of respectable economic recovery sure is going to piss off |
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MadMaddie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-11-10 01:28 PM Response to Original message |
7. I think what's missing from the recovery is writing off the bad |
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Cheap_Trick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-11-10 01:45 PM Response to Original message |
9. Why the pervasive gloom? |
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Go2Peace (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-12-10 01:21 AM Response to Reply #9 |
43. Because people are SMART, they understand that unless the fundamentals change it is temporary |
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Vinca (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-11-10 01:49 PM Response to Original message |
10. I feel as if I'm living in a parallel universe. Just when it's supposed |
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Jakes Progress (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-11-10 02:22 PM Response to Reply #10 |
13. That's what you get for living in the real world. |
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ShortnFiery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-11-10 05:29 PM Response to Reply #13 |
20. Well put. |
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Jakes Progress (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-11-10 06:36 PM Response to Reply #20 |
27. That's the lie to the story. |
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girl gone mad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-11-10 05:56 PM Response to Reply #10 |
23. You are not alone. |
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Vinca (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-11-10 06:15 PM Response to Reply #23 |
25. I think you're right. The big banks aren't lending to the little banks. |
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SnoopDog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-11-10 02:00 PM Response to Original message |
11. I find it hard to see how we will recover... |
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Speck Tater (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-11-10 02:07 PM Response to Original message |
12. When will the recovery occur? Never! |
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babylonsister (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-11-10 02:45 PM Response to Reply #12 |
14. Ahem... |
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girl gone mad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-11-10 06:17 PM Response to Reply #14 |
26. The problem with this report is that it only counts same store sales.. |
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Jakes Progress (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-11-10 06:37 PM Response to Reply #26 |
28. Boy. That reality stuff is a bummer. |
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Go2Peace (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-12-10 01:34 AM Response to Reply #14 |
45. Yes, the emotional push is on and I have heard it will be for the next 4 months |
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ShortnFiery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-11-10 05:32 PM Response to Reply #12 |
22. Excellent Analysis. |
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DailyGrind51 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-11-10 03:08 PM Response to Original message |
15. You mean I WILL be able to retire some day? |
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moondust (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-11-10 04:13 PM Response to Original message |
18. It's gonna be great for millionaires and billionaires! |
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AK24 (3 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-11-10 05:07 PM Response to Original message |
19. Lubrizol in Ohio east of Cleveland |
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babylonsister (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-11-10 05:31 PM Response to Reply #19 |
21. Thanks for the positive job news, and welcome to DU! nt |
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paulk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-11-10 07:06 PM Response to Reply #19 |
30. $12/hr is not a "decent paying job" |
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Mudoria (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-11-10 09:25 PM Response to Reply #30 |
34. $12 is damn decent money if you've been jobless.. |
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paulk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-11-10 10:45 PM Response to Reply #34 |
37. in the context of an economic recovery |
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mkultra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-12-10 03:17 PM Response to Reply #37 |
54. actually, its about the recovery that is coming. |
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Dappleganger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-11-10 09:28 PM Response to Reply #19 |
35. That is great news! |
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mnhtnbb (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-11-10 06:55 PM Response to Original message |
29. I've been reading Stiglitz and he makes a very compelling case. |
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babylonsister (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-11-10 07:46 PM Response to Reply #29 |
31. Lots of mixed messages out there... |
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DCBob (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-11-10 07:53 PM Response to Original message |
32. BSister, you know DU does not like good news like this.. |
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Go2Peace (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-12-10 01:30 AM Response to Reply #32 |
44. Too bad we can't have more empty craniums like those right wing sites eh? |
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DCBob (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-12-10 07:28 PM Response to Reply #44 |
56. I dont think anyone is "excited" or thinks all the problems are solved but... |
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Clio the Leo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-11-10 09:38 PM Response to Original message |
36. I'm kicking this awesome thread but... |
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old mark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-11-10 10:53 PM Response to Original message |
38. Rec. This is starting now an will be very aparant by mid summer. |
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tex-wyo-dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-12-10 12:03 AM Response to Original message |
39. I've heard a lot of mixed messages, but just recently... |
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depakid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-12-10 06:42 AM Response to Original message |
48. And petroleum prices will fall as more and more is drilled |
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quaker bill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-12-10 06:45 AM Response to Original message |
49. I love the job of underselling |
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Hell Hath No Fury (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-12-10 11:09 AM Response to Original message |
50. Let's see --- |
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closeupready (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-12-10 02:38 PM Response to Original message |
53. First factual point of error - China has cheap labor but NOT abundant natural resources. |
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branders seine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-12-10 06:28 PM Response to Original message |
55. what jobs, exactly, will fuel this 'recovery'? |
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opihimoimoi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-13-10 01:57 AM Response to Original message |
58. Signs abound recovery is ongoing.....pos negates neg...... Obamaism looking good too.. |
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