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babylonsister (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-23-10 04:44 PM Original message |
White House Versus Wellpoint |
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RUMMYisFROSTED (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-23-10 04:45 PM Response to Original message |
1. I wish. |
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lob1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-23-10 04:52 PM Response to Original message |
2. I heard yesterday on MSNBC that the maximun penalty for breaking the |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-23-10 05:12 PM Response to Reply #2 |
3. The maximum penalty if they are seen deliberately flouting the law |
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IndianaGreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-23-10 05:30 PM Response to Reply #3 |
5. The Administration has chosen to cut Medicare instead |
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ClarkUSA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-23-10 05:43 PM Response to Reply #5 |
7. "The Administration has chosen to cut Medicare instead"?? Anti-HCR Republicans said that ad nauseum. |
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IndianaGreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-23-10 06:03 PM Response to Reply #7 |
11. The Administration's own Health and Human Services Department said that |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-23-10 09:21 PM Response to Reply #11 |
26. The huge yearly increases are clearly unsustainable. And Medicare Advantage |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-23-10 06:00 PM Response to Reply #5 |
9. The cuts were from Medicare Advantage, |
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IndianaGreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-23-10 06:05 PM Response to Reply #9 |
12. Medicare Advantage was not the only one taking a hit |
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ClarkUSA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-23-10 07:25 PM Response to Reply #12 |
21. They are indeed from Medicare Advantage, according to your very own quoted source. |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-23-10 09:18 PM Response to Reply #12 |
25. Continuing on the present path would have been far worse. |
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lob1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-23-10 05:31 PM Response to Reply #3 |
6. I really hope you're right. But they deliberately put in a token punishment |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-23-10 06:02 PM Response to Reply #6 |
10. It's not a loophole, it's a penalty. And if that penalty doesn't work, |
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IndianaGreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-23-10 06:17 PM Response to Reply #10 |
13. The public knows that private insurers don't work, which is why it supported Medicare for all |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-23-10 06:27 PM Response to Reply #13 |
15. I'm not sure ENOUGH of the public understands that. But now the principle |
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IndianaGreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-23-10 06:30 PM Response to Reply #15 |
17. HCR leaves millions uncovered because it is not a true universal health care system |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-23-10 06:33 PM Response to Reply #17 |
18. The ban on recissions hasn't taken effect yet, has it? n/t |
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katandmoon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-23-10 07:03 PM Response to Reply #18 |
20. There really is no ban. Insurers can still shitcan customers based on what they deem is "fraud." |
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ClarkUSA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-23-10 07:29 PM Response to Reply #20 |
23. Absolutely not true. You're ignoring the facts as stated in the OP in favor of baseless polemic. |
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katandmoon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-23-10 10:11 PM Response to Reply #23 |
27. How do you keep missing the "except in cases of outright fraud or deception" phrase in that quote? |
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ClarkUSA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-24-10 10:02 AM Response to Reply #27 |
29. How did you miss ""vast new enforcement power to get to the truth in situations like these"? |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-23-10 09:12 PM Response to Reply #20 |
24. I'll assume you're saying that the ban on recissions hasn't yet taken effect. n/t |
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katandmoon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-23-10 10:16 PM Response to Reply #24 |
28. No. I'm saying the ban on recissions isn't worth the paper it's printed on to insurers. |
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ClarkUSA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-24-10 10:04 AM Response to Reply #28 |
30. That's your opinion. Where's your proof? n/t |
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katandmoon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-23-10 05:24 PM Response to Original message |
4. This shows how toothless "health reform" was. Insurance companies can still rescind policies based |
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ClarkUSA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-23-10 05:49 PM Response to Reply #4 |
8. Wrong. This shows there's "vast new enforcement power to get to the truth in situations like these" |
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katandmoon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-23-10 06:19 PM Response to Reply #8 |
14. No, you're wrong. "Health Reform" still allows Wellpoint to do exactly what they did. |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-23-10 06:30 PM Response to Reply #14 |
16. The argument from the insurers has always been that they could be trusted to handle |
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katandmoon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-23-10 07:01 PM Response to Reply #16 |
19. I wish. But Obama has made it crystal clear he opposes the public option. |
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ClarkUSA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-23-10 07:27 PM Response to Reply #14 |
22. The facts in the OP contradict you. I gave you proof via a quote, but you are only interested... |
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