Tancredo’s...Theory: Obama Hides His Birth Certificate To Stir Up The Right And Make Us Look Crazy

[ProSense]

Tancredo’s Conspiracy Theory: Obama Hides His Birth Certificate To Stir Up The Right And Make Us Look Crazy

COLMES: Do you really believe – you know he was born in Hawaii right?

TANCREDO: I have absolutely no idea where he was born.

COLMES: You’ve seen he was born in Hawaii; he was in two Hawaiian newspapers within two days of his birth.

TANCREDO: Anybody can put an article in a newspaper. Just show me your birth certificate!

Tancredo then claimed that Obama is purposefully withholding his birth certificate in order to fuel birther conspiracies that make the right wing look nuts:

TANCREDO: Now they very well not want to show it because they want to propagate this whole thing that’s going on about birthers. … They may be doing it for that reason; I don’t know why they don’t want anyone to see it. … They want it propagated because you know –

COLMES: It makes your party look nuts!

TANCREDO: Yeah well maybe that’s why they don’t produce document, I don’t know.

Listen here (starting at 8:22):

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Group Of Psychos

[gateley]

1. The GOP doesn't need help from anyone to make them look crazy. That's the one

thing they do well all on their very own.

[polichick]

32. Hey, you took my answer! :)

[Beetwasher]

2. Anyone Can Put An Article In The Newspaper!! LOL!

Yeah, they knew, on the day he was born, they had to start covering their tracks. :rofl:

You can't make this shit up.

[stopbush]

6. Yep. I was checking the papers just today for Kenyans listing their births.

I fully expect another Kenyan to become president in 36 years.

[Lilyeye]

27. Sad isn't it?

Such fucking idiots.

[brooklynite]

3. Okay.....who leaked our secret strategy????

[DevonRex]

10. I think I did it. See, I had latte foam on my top lip when my teabagger sister

walked into my study. I hurriedly hid Obama's vault copy birth certificate in the center drawer. But she must have searched my desk during the night and found it.

I'm SO sorry. Who wants to be The Birth Certificate Guardian next?

:rofl:

[Ian David]

4. Birth certificate From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Birth certificate
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

A birth certificate is a vital record that documents the birth of a child. The term "birth certificate" can refer to either the original document or a certified copy of or representation of the original record of birth. In most jurisdictions, the birth certificate is prima facie evidence that the birth occurred.

<snip>

The federal and state governments have traditionally cooperated to some extent to improve vital statistics. From 1900 to 1946 the U.S. Census Bureau designed standard birth certificates, collected vital statistics on a national basis, and generally sought to improve the accuracy of vital statistics. In 1946 that responsibility was passed to the U.S. Public Health Service. Unlike the British system of recording all births in "registers", the states file an individual document for each and every birth. In most states this document is entitled a "Certificate of Live Birth".<16><17>

More:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Birth_certificate

[Enrique]

5. those Kenyans!

they're crafty!

[BlooInBloo]

7. Wife-beating husband: She makes me mad on purpose so I'll hit her.

[treestar]

14. First thing I thought of, too

Repuke: blame own actions on others.

[Cha]

19. That's the birthbaggers' mentality and

what we're dealing with as adversaries.

[fishwax]

8. lord knows the gop don't need help looking crazy -- but that said, it's not a bad strategy

:rofl:

[donco6]

9. Wow. What's really interesting in there is that Kenya has a TIME MACHINE!

Where have they been hiding it all this time?

[RC]

11. Ya sure, yabetcha. In 1961 a plan was put into effect that this Kenya born, black baby would

grow up to be President of the the United States. Now that is forethought, planning and organization!

[Cali_Democrat]

12. Obama is an evil genius!

:evilgrin:

[Mz Pip]

13. There may be some truth to it.

I know I would certainly let the RWers babble on their nonsense about where I was born if I were Obama. There would be absolutely no point in producing yet another BC for them since they'd come up with some conspiracy around that. So let them stomp and snort and drool.

It does make them look nuts. why would Obama want that to stop?

[unc70]

38. That is some truth. Posted about it long ago. Keeps them occupied and looking crazy

I concluded that there was nothing to gain for Obama producing the hospital or other photostatic BC that would answer most of the quetions that have been raised. As long as this issues stays alive, then it discredits nearly any questions about Obama and his personal life story.

If the majority of the concerns with Obama's BC were satisfied (for all but the most rabid), then the focus would likely move to other facets of his life story. Some of these might have proven problematic during the campaign. Once you start pulling on a couple of threads, all sorts of little inconsistencies. Here is an example:

Where did Obama live most of his first year and why there? The standard story implies it was in Hawaii, but lots of convincing evidence has Obama and his mother living in Seatle within weeks of his birth, with her enrolled at the University of Washington. Why would she move to Seatle? For starters, because that is where she grew up, not in Kansas. Where she graduated from high school, where she and her family attended the UU church? Universalists? Weren't her parents Methodists or Baptists?

You see how focusing on things other than his BC could start raising doubts about key points in the story of his family and his life. While I don't know of anything that would be particularly damaging, there are a huge number of messy little details that could act as hundreds of pin pricks.

If our Obama or his advisors, I would prefer to keep the birth certificate issue active as long as possible.

[BlooInBloo]

15. HEADLINE: Rightwingers confess to being stupid enough to fall for Obama tricks.

[Arkana]

16. Ahahahahaha.

To hear the right tell it you'd think Obama had magic wizard powers.

[BlooInBloo]

20. You mean you don't hear the heavens opening? Celestial choirs singing?

:P

[Jennicut]

30. Barack Potter?

[creeksneakers2]

17. They probably took this into consideration.

Great strategy.

[msanthrope]

18. We must be paying Orly Taitz out of the DNC general fund. n/t

[Phx_Dem]

21. So he admits it . . . they are crazy.

Not that we needed additional confirmation.

[opihimoimoi]

22. The GOP is in its worst crisis since the '30's and Tancredo adds to the fire

with his absurd shit bordering on lunacy

[CreekDog]

23. I give him credit for being half right.

:evilgrin:

[Renew Deal]

24. And the republicans are happy to oblige

:shrug:

[old mark]

25. So THAT'S what's doing it!!!! Here all this time, I thought......nt

[political_Dem]

26. Let's face it. This is the new Southern Strategy.

The GOP can't find any other way to not legitimize the presidency, so they have to use a racist dog whistle to not recognize that a Black POTUS is in power. This serves to emphasize their racism against folks of color as well as their hatred of immigrants.

But, if they truly believe this garbage, they don't truly know American history--especially when it comes to the 50th state.

This is truly ignorance to the nth degree worthy of the "Know Nothing" party.

[Blue_Tires]

46. that's been their plan from the start...

[saltpoint]

28. That Tom Tancredo sure is a sparkling addition to any commentary

on the issues, isn't he.

[olegramps]

29. I absolutely know that Tancredo was born in Mexico and is not a citizen.

I don't give a crap that he has a birth certificate that says he was hatched in the Good Ole U.S. of A. Its a phony that he paid five bucks for. Did anybody check and made sure he was a citizen before sitting in congress and making a damn fool of himself. You can just look at him and see that he is a half-breed from South of the Border. He should be arrested, tarred and feathered and thrown back.

[Puglover]

31. I know for certain

that Tom Tancredo has a really bad combover and should be deported just for that.

[leftynyc]

33. If Pres obama engineered this

to make the right look crazy, he's a lot smarter and more crafty than I thought. Brilliant strategy and it's working like a charm.

[Junkie Brewster]

34. Well, they wouldn't look so crazy if they stopped obliging him

Sweet merciful Zeus these people are idiots.

[HillWilliam]

35. Oh! The incredible ObmaPower - one tiny piece of paper

and the entire right wing goes swinging from the chandeliers.

Didn't take much of a push, did it.

Good move, Tom. Admitting you have a problem is the first step to recovery.

[niceypoo]

36. Well, if this is true....

...it is definitely working.

[greencharlie]

37. the latest TWIST on the birther theories is...

A guy at work believes that Obama WAS born in Hawaii... as stated, BUT he believes that the original BC, the one with the footprint, the doctor's signature, etc... in the section where it lists Name, Father, Mother, Religion...

Under RELIGION he believes it said MUSLIM and for that reason, the original BC will never be seen as Obama claimed no Muslim background. During the primary with Hillary this alone would have sunk his campaign.

A bit tin-hattish... but not as bad as the whole "Kenya" conspiracy...

[kestrel91316]

40. I've never seen religion listed on any birth certificate in all my years of

genealogical research. That's a red herring, my dear.

[jberryhill]

44. First - "Hospital" birth certificates are not state documents

The thing folks sometimes get from the hospital with the baby footprints and other nonsense is a document generated by the hospital, and given on departure as a souvenir.

A record of birth issued by the state is the document generally relied upon as proof that such birth took place in that state.

If one thinks about it for a nanosecond... what is the "religion" of a newborn baby?

This notion that an infant subscribes to any particular religion is, IMHO, one of the funnier things that birthers believe.

[kestrel91316]

39. LOL, I have figured all along that that's EXACTLY what Obama is doing:

he's just letting the birthers make this into a huge big deal, all the while he has the birth certificate which is valid in any court in the land. He just wants them to get all frothed up and waste their time, money, and energy on this for the next 6 1/2 years, lol.

[CTLawGuy]

41. didn't the state of HI confirm about a million times

that he was actually born there? And their governor is a Republican, I might add.

[Donald Ian Rankin]

42. I think that's almost certainly the case.

Why do *you* think Obama is not revealing his birth certificate? It's conceivable that it would reveal something embarrassing like illegitimacy (I think - I would have expected that to be on the copy he's released, but it's a theory I've heard put forwards by reasonably sane-sounding people), but I think that by far the most likely reason is that every time the far right yells "He's not American", they make themselves look more unelectable.

[unc70]

43. Birth certificate issue is like a cutout/firewall issue

As long as it keeps the most rabid opponents occupied, they look like nuts to people in the middle. This, in turn, makes any possibly legitimate issues be dismissed as further ravings by the crazies. This has not been an accident.

See my post above.

[graywarrior]

45. That's why we elected him

[Proud Liberal Dem]

47. Well, It's obviously really working!!!

Not that they need any help from Obama mind you.......

:rofl: