Why he is not giving this from the Oval.....

[Clio the Leo]

... there has been speculation as to why he was not giving this from the Oval Office. I chalked it up as to him just being the type who'd rather give a speech from out and around the country than from the White House.

But then the CNN camera cut to the audience and now I understand.

This is what he will see when he gives the speech....



.... he'll be looking into an ocean of cadets .... aside from a small VIP section, the house is full of young would-be military men and women.

No one can tell me he is not considering the cost of his decision.

[goldcanyonaz]

1. I thought it was public knowledge that he would be giving his speech at West Point.

Did I miss something?

[vaberella]

3. The purpose of the post clearly as to why West Point and not the Oval Office.

Did you know why he chose West Point over OO?

[Clio the Leo]

5. lol, somebody get Vabs a musket!!!!

Girl, you are LOADED for BEAR!!! ha ha

[goldcanyonaz]

6. Umm, just guessing... To show the support of would be troops?

Do I get a cookie?

[CaliforniaPeggy]

2. He's going to get them all ready to go.

After all, they will be doing the fighting and the dying...

I know he's considering the cost...

[MadMaddie]

14. When you are right you are right!!

I am sure the right wing will find fault with him giving it there. Then again they would find fault with him giving at the WH - they would then claim he is avoiding the troops.....he can't win.

[HopeOverFear]

20. He's going to look them in the eye

[goldcanyonaz]

35. Of course he is considering the cost. How disingenuous to think otherwise.

Oh, and offensive too.

[LakeSamish706]

4. Would he be doing this if his daughters were of age and having to ship out to Afghanistan? n/t

[FrenchieCat]

8. I think so.

[goldcanyonaz]

9. I believe he would. Of course he did campaign on escalating troops in Afghanistan and not passing

out gummi bears.

[avaistheone1]

19. He was not elected to escalate in Afghanistan or pass out gummi bears.

Obama was elected to get us out of Iraq.

Obama's platform to escalate in Afganistan was never popular among Democrats or Americans.

That is why so many us are are angry.

[goldcanyonaz]

29. Funny, the majority of his supporters here glossed right over Afghanistan during the primaries.

So many were busy with pink ponies and singing kum ba ya.

[avaistheone1]

31. You don't get it. McCain was stay in Iraq. Obama was get out of Iraq.

Obama was elected because the most popular position among Democrats and Americans was get out of Iraq.
It was the predominant issue over all other issues.

Democrats and Americans did not favor during or post-election Obama's Afghanistan positon.

Duh! Are you alway such a slow learner?

[goldcanyonaz]

37. Apparently you're the slow learner since we are discussing Afghanistan.

The majority of Americans will stand by this surge in troops in Afghanistan.

Bookmark this post.

Now, go get laid, you obviously need a release.

[Baltoman991]

39. Then they shouldn't

have voted for him. To slam him now over this as some kind of broken promise is pure BS.

[AllentownJake]

7. My Dad would call them the ring knockers nt

[Clio the Leo]

10. lol, what book are you reading Jake?

Just COULDN'T stay away, could you? ;)

[AllentownJake]

13. I'm eating right now

and peaked in.

My dad was a 1st lt. in Vietnam and so was my mom, they referred to people from West Point as Ring Knockers.

[Clio the Leo]

18. Is that like the Knobs of VMI? NT

[AllentownJake]

25. No

It refers to there being a group of officers trying to make a decision and the person from an Academy would knock their ring on the table to assert authority.

[IndianaGreen]

11. Because he wants to use our troops as props?

[Clio the Leo]

15. lol, I'd pay good money....

.... for you to have the opportunity to look him in the face and say that. ;)

[knightinwhitesatin]

23. Why?

Was it wrong when bush used the troops like this? I seem to remember in my lurking a lot of teeth gnashing every time he did so. It's wrong when anyone uses the troops like this, who cares what letter comes after their name.

[IndianaGreen]

27. I would tell him that to his face, and then some!

LBJ was intimidating. Obama is not LBJ.

[knightinwhitesatin]

16. LOL great minds think alike

Imagine the breast beating that would be going on if Bush was doing this tonight at West Point.........

[Cha]

24. Yeah, it's real fuckin' funny.

[knightinwhitesatin]

26. It is funny

replace Obama with bush and I doubt you are still so happy

[Cha]

21. You poor timewarped thing.

[goldcanyonaz]

30. Our troops are not props. These men and women more than likely would disagree with

your position. If they did agree with you they wouldn't have signed up.

[IndianaGreen]

32. Our troops are not props, but politicians use them as props.

The pox is on the politicians that use troops as props.

[knightinwhitesatin]

34. + infinity

n/t

[emilyg]

33. Bingo.

[polichick]

36. Yep - photo op. nt

[Baltoman991]

40. Yep, right on cue!!!

Hey, you beat FAUX SNOOZE on this one. Make sure they credit you when they start hollering about this being a photo-op.

[pecwae]

44. And were it someone else

this is precisely what the majority here would be screaming.

[knightinwhitesatin]

12. there are a lot less

troops at the White House that can be used as props.

[Cha]

17. That's right, girl..

directly into their eyes.

[Fire1]

22. K&R. n/t

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[southernyankeebelle]

38. I think it was a good move on the President's part. He should be looking

at our future leaders and soldiers.

[ShortnFiery]

41. Yes, how very cold, calculated and conniving to use young Professional Regular to be ...

Officers as a damn PROP for your warmongering. :grr:

[GeorgeGist]

42. Nope ...

it's because he is a

COWARD

[Romulox]

43. Propaganda value. nt