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Techn0Girl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-02-09 04:51 PM
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Why THIS war is Different
In THIS war we are going after Al-Queda
Except al-Queda has only about 100 operatives in Iraq.

In THIS war we are going after the people who assisted 9-11
Except there were NO Afghani planers or terrorists involved in it. 15 of the 19 people on the plane were Saudis

In THIS war we are going after Bin Laden.
Except he's in Pakistan now.

In THIS war we aren't following the Bush doctrine of going to war BEFORE there is an actual problem.
Except we are.

In THIS war the Afghanis want and need our help.
Except they don't

Yep this war is so much different.
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MNDemNY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-02-09 04:52 PM
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1. You forgot that "he" supports this one. Case closed.
This war is the good war.
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Techn0Girl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-02-09 05:05 PM
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2. Yeah. It saddens me to finally understand that the cheerleaders on the Left the same as on the Right
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MNDemNY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-02-09 05:09 PM
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3. here.
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Techn0Girl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-02-09 05:10 PM
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4. I like your Avatar idea - I'm changing mine as well
Edited on Wed Dec-02-09 05:16 PM by Techn0Girl
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Dr Robert Donating Member (381 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-02-09 05:43 PM
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27. it should sadden you that supposed Democrats are willing to stand in Obama's way as much as a Repuke
on nearly every issue.
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polichick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-02-09 05:15 PM
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5. Well said - sad as it is. K&R nt
Edited on Wed Dec-02-09 05:15 PM by polichick
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ClarkUSA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-02-09 05:17 PM
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6. 'Gen. Petraus "says affiliated organizations still have "enclaves and sanctuaries" in the country'
Edited on Wed Dec-02-09 05:23 PM by ClarkUSA
The country Gen. Petraus was referring to is Afghanistan, of course.

Link: http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x3870206

Also from a recent BBC article: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/politics/8384994.stm

Later Foreign Secretary David Miliband said Britain wanted Pakistan to "join us in upping our game" in tackling terrorism
on its border with Afghanistan... he said it was "right that we recognise that stability in Afghanistan requires stability in
Pakistan too and that requires a combined effort."

We've all got to do more, Pakistan has got to do more, Afghanistan has got to do more and the international community
has got to do more, but we've also got to do better."


Between this source and the other source that quoted Petraeus, they bolster the reasons why Candidate wanted and why
President Obama wants to "finish the job" in Afghanistan and why he has the support of both the Afghanistan President
and the Pakistani PM to do so, especially since fighting will take place along the mountainous Af-Pak border region where
the Al-Qaida leadership is ostensibly hiding.
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Techn0Girl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-02-09 05:19 PM
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7. Petreus? Wasn't he the guy we all hated during the Bush years?
Guess he's all right now...
No longer an unperson?
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polichick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-02-09 05:22 PM
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10. Betreus is now Obama's best military bud. whoopee!
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ClarkUSA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-02-09 05:25 PM
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15. Thanks for your usual penetrating analysis of the facts.
:rofl:
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polichick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-02-09 05:26 PM
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17. The pitiful fact I posted about requires no analysis for those who still think. nt
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ClarkUSA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-02-09 05:33 PM
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21. What's pitiful is how some mistake meaningless childish rhetoric for a "fact".
Edited on Wed Dec-02-09 06:00 PM by ClarkUSA
But it's not surprising, given that's how most of the 24/7 anti-Obama crowd always operate when it comes to attacking Pres. Obama.
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polichick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-02-09 05:43 PM
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26. DU Rule #3: Civility: Treat other members with respect. Do not post personal attacks...
...against other members of this discussion forum.
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ClarkUSA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-02-09 05:53 PM
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29. Um, I made no personal attack. I stated a fact re: your reply that said, "Betreus... whoopee!"
Edited on Wed Dec-02-09 06:01 PM by ClarkUSA
But since I obviously hurt your feelings, I changed my reply. :hi:
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-02-09 05:24 PM
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13. So that means you're going to continue ignoring the facts
because they don't match up to your lies?
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Techn0Girl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-02-09 05:25 PM
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16. Speaking of facts...
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-02-09 05:28 PM
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18. Just as I thought..you're all fucking smoke and mirrors.
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Techn0Girl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-02-09 05:30 PM
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19. and you are on my ignore list. Your, Sir, are a waste of time.
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ClarkUSA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-02-09 05:24 PM
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14. Ignore the facts to keep spewing the red-meat rhetoric. That's all you've got.
:eyes:
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Techn0Girl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-02-09 06:49 PM
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30. You have no argument. You're spewing and just wasting my time.
You can not be reasoned with or argued with any more than a right-wing teabagger can be argued with.

You're on ignore from now on. You are just not worth spending time with.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-02-09 05:21 PM
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8. Thanks, Clark for linking some reality on this
thread.
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MNDemNY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-02-09 05:23 PM
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11. .
:o :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :patriot: You crack me up!!!!
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ClarkUSA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-02-09 05:30 PM
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20. You're welcome, Cha. The 24/7 Obama Outrage Club obviously favors red meat rhetoric over facts.
They're just like teabaggers that way and are about as credible. They're just pissed about Pres. Obama's having an exit plan that ends
the war in Afghanistan by 2011. So what we're seeing is a hastily thrown-together Plan B of their perpetual FauxRage.

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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-02-09 05:34 PM
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22. Their thrown together poutrage is all about denying the facts
and smearing the board with shit about britney spears.

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ClarkUSA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-02-09 05:38 PM
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25. That's all the 24/7 Obama Outrage Club got. Facts contradict their red meat bullshit rhetoric.
Like I said, they operate just like teabaggers do but much to their dismay, they are much less relevant to the
party than their wingnut counterparts. That says a lot about the Democratic Party and not much about the
RNC.
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whyverne Donating Member (734 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-02-09 05:22 PM
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9. It bugs me when "He" invokes 9/11.
9/11 could have been stopped so easily. If Bush and Rice hadn't had their heads up their butts.
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polichick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-02-09 05:24 PM
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12. And if they really wanted to stop it. Who knows? nt
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Kurt_and_Hunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-02-09 05:35 PM
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23. Edit your first part (not "Iraq")
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Bluerthanblue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-02-09 05:53 PM
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28. the OP seems to believe the two are interchangeable.
:shrug:
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Techn0Girl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-02-09 06:51 PM
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32. Yes I do ... they ARE intercgangable.
Now you get it?
good.
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Bluerthanblue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-02-09 07:40 PM
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33. no they are not- and your saying so
doesn't make it so.

Sorry- you think you have the corner on what reality is, but you don't.

Where was your outrage when Obama addressed us in March stating his plans for Afghanistan? You were here then, let's see a link to your posts decrying the 17,000 troops that were sent over as a result.

The problem is that I DO 'get it' Techn0Girl- and my consistant position against using violence as a means of controlling others can be found in the DU archives-

Being against war is not an end in itself- you can be against war and not be an advocate for peace.

Do you get THAT?

You will, someday, I believe.

:hi:
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Jakes Progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-02-09 05:36 PM
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24. It's different because it's ours now. nt
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avaistheone1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-02-09 06:51 PM
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31. +100 technogirl
Great summary of the facts.
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