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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-17-10 03:22 PM
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Obama Will Challenge Arizona Immigration Law
http://politicalwire.com/archives/2010/06/17/obama_will_challenge_arizona_immigration_law.html

June 17, 2010

Obama Will Challenge Arizona Immigration Law


Secretary of State Hillary Clinton told an interviewer in Ecuador that the Obama administration would challenge the Arizona immigration law in court, according to the Right Scoop.

Said Clinton: "President Obama has spoken out against the law because he thinks that the federal government should be determining immigration policy. And the Justice Department, under his direction, will be bringing a lawsuit against the act."

Ben Smith: "Clinton seems to get ahead of the Justice Department a bit."
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-17-10 03:26 PM
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1. Very good. nt
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azmouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-17-10 03:31 PM
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2. I hope so.
We need the help here to fight the RW idiots.
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nichomachus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-17-10 04:10 PM
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3. Holy crap! What happened?
When Obama defended DOMA and DADT in the most vicious anti-gay rhetoric, the Obama cheerleaders were out telling us that he had no choice. He had to defend every law on the books without exception. You don't think they were lying to us, do you?

Bastard!
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-17-10 04:15 PM
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4. DOMA and DADT are federal laws that the attorney general is, by law, required to
represent the US as a defendent.

Moreover the handling of individual cases already underway is done by career lawyers and it is against the law for political appointees to interfere.

Changing DOMA and DADT, both passed by the legislature requires legislation to undo them unless you can mount a case against it on constitutional grounds.

The law in Arizona is a state law that the federal government is going to challenge on constitutional grounds.
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nichomachus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-17-10 04:17 PM
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6. Actually, he's not
Administrations have very often refused to defend laws they disagreed with. This is just another Obama lie.
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-17-10 04:24 PM
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8. no they can either support the law or challenge its constitutionality

The Attorney General cannot legally pick and choose what laws he will defend.

If you think about you will see how absurd your position is.

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CTLawGuy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-17-10 10:23 PM
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13. example?
nt
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-17-10 04:16 PM
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5. Vicious, anti-gay rhetoric, from Obama? I must have missed that. nt
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nichomachus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-17-10 04:18 PM
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7. Yes, you must have
The DOMA brief he filed compared gay relationships to incest and child molestation.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-17-10 04:28 PM
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9. ...
http://dissentingjustice.blogspot.com/2009/06/dissenting-justice-on-doma-brief-part.html


the brief never equates same-sex marriage with incest or "child rape" -- neither explicitly or implicitly.


And since this is not the topic of this discussion, that's as far as I'm going. I just dislike seeing the truth mutilated.
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treestar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-17-10 09:59 PM
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10. Good. A clearly unconstitutional law.
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depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-17-10 10:10 PM
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11. "...ahead of the Justice Department a bit."
Not difficult to do.

Actually, difficult not to.
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harkadog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-17-10 10:13 PM
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12. When did Clinton take over DOJ?
Just asking..
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Raine1967 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-17-10 10:32 PM
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14. Ben Smith from Politico?
I think he has decided to add his own editorial.

No one said that, but it seems as tho he elicited JUST the thought he hoped to get.

No one said that. Ben Smith added his commentary to the story. I'm pretty sure Ms. Clinton would not have said this if it was not going to happen.
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Ter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-18-10 12:33 AM
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15. The downside to this is if it's overturned, there will be anti-fed hysteria
Not good in these times, a state or two might go rogue and break free.
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POAS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-18-10 10:08 AM
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16. The anti-fed hysteria
will continue unabated with or without the overturning of the Arizona law. To choose to let what the Justice Dept. considers an unconstitutional law stand without challenge would be a bigger downside. Coddling the anti-American separatists and racists is not a viable option.
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