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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-03-09 12:09 AM
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Bush is Walking Into a Trap (2001-Afghanistan)
This is the "retaliation is a trap" column written by Robert Fisk shortly after 9-11.

Published on Sunday, September 16, 2001 in the Independent/UK

Bush is Walking Into a Trap

by Robert Fisk


Retaliation is a trap. In a world that was supposed to have learnt that the rule of law comes above revenge, President Bush appears to be heading for the very disaster that Osama bin Laden has laid down for him. Let us have no doubts about what happened in New York and Washington last week. It was a crime against humanity. We cannot understand America's need to retaliate unless we accept this bleak, awesome fact. But this crime was perpetrated – it becomes ever clearer – to provoke the United States into just the blind, arrogant punch that the US military is preparing.

Mr bin Laden – every day his culpability becomes more apparent – has described to me how he wishes to overthrow the pro-American regime of the Middle East, starting with Saudi Arabia and moving on to Egypt, Jordan and the other Gulf states. In an Arab world sunk in corruption and dictatorships – most of them supported by the West – the only act that might bring Muslims to strike at their own leaders would be a brutal, indiscriminate assault by the United States. Mr bin Laden is unsophisticated in foreign affairs, but a close student of the art and horror of war. He knew how to fight the Russians who stayed on in Afghanistan, a Russian monster that revenged itself upon its ill-educated, courageous antagonists until, faced with war without end, the entire Soviet Union began to fall apart.

The Chechens learnt this lesson. And the man responsible for so much of the bloodbath in Chechnya – the career KGB man whose army is raping and murdering the insurgent Sunni Muslim population of Chechnya – is now being signed up by Mr Bush for his "war against people''. Vladimir Putin must surely have a sense of humor to appreciate the cruel ironies that have now come to pass, though I doubt if he will let Mr Bush know what happens when you start a war of retaliation; your army – like the Russian forces in Chechnya – becomes locked into battle with an enemy that appears ever more ruthless, ever more evil.

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And while Mr Bush – and perhaps Mr Blair – prepare their forces, they explain so meretriciously that this is a war for "democracy and liberty'', that it is about men who are "attacking civilization''."America was targeted for attack,'' Mr Bush informed us on Friday, "because we are the brightest beacon for freedom and opportunity in the world.'' But this is not why America was attacked. If this was an Arab-Muslim apocalypse, then it is intimately associated with events in the Middle East and with America's stewardship of the area. Arabs, it might be added, would rather like some of that democracy and liberty and freedom that Mr Bush has been telling them about. Instead, they get a president who wins 98 per cent in the elections (Washington's friend, Mr Mubarak) or a Palestinian police force, trained by the CIA, that tortures and sometimes kills its people in prison. The Syrians would also like a little of that democracy. So would the Saudis. But their effete princes are all friends of America – in many cases, educated at US universities.

I will always remember how President Clinton announced that Saddam Hussein – another of our grotesque inventions – must be overthrown so that the people of Iraq could choose their own leaders. But if that happened, it would be the first time in Middle Eastern history that Arabs have been permitted to do so. No, it is "our'' democracy and "our'' liberty and freedom that Mr Bush and Mr Blair are talking about, our Western sanctuary that is under attack, not the vast place of terror and injustice that the Middle East has become.

http://www.commondreams.org/views01/0916-06.htm
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The_Casual_Observer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-03-09 12:19 AM
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1. For some reason this round is supposed to come out different than all the ones in the past
Edited on Thu Dec-03-09 12:19 AM by The_Casual_Observer
I seem to recall that the Taliban was defeated & Bin Laden no longer mattered way back in 2003, back when there were 15,000 troops there.

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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-03-09 10:02 PM
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4. The parallels to what happened in the past are striking; even the Orwellian language!
Another pack of lies from another Administration.
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msongs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-03-09 12:21 AM
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2. and we are still trapped there nt
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-03-09 12:23 AM
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3. and bin Laden is still alive and well.... in Pakistan
SNAFU
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Peace_Sells Donating Member (130 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-03-09 10:21 PM
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5. Recd
But it looks like you are still at zero. But thanks for posting it was an interesting read and I wish Obama would have taken articles such as this into consideration before escalating the war.
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