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mkultra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-03-09 11:06 AM
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Poll question: afghanistan is a good war because..
Edited on Thu Dec-03-09 11:56 AM by mkultra
please explain your votes. I especially want to hear from the "war is never the answer" peeps. What do you feel is the answer.
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MNDemNY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-03-09 11:18 AM
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1. It may have been.....
but it is over, no further good to be wrought. Al qaeda is gone, we have achieved our goal, any more is "nation building" at best, or more likely just for the money.
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ClarkUSA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-03-09 06:49 PM
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9. "Al qaeda is gone"? There are still "affiliated organizations" that have "enclaves and sanctuaries"
Edited on Thu Dec-03-09 06:50 PM by ClarkUSA
Petraus "says affiliated organizations still have "enclaves and sanctuaries" in the country.

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<<"we have achieved our goal">>

No, we haven't. Osama bin Laden is still at large in the mountainous Af-Pak border region.

<<any more is "nation building" at best, or more likely just for the money>>

What "nation building" are you referring to? That was not in the mission plan Pres. Obama described on Tuesday.

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dmallind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-03-09 11:26 AM
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2. Where's the option that says
It's a necessity so we don't have to abandon the people to a fundamentalist Islamist tyranny who wants to kill anyone who disagrees with them?
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mkultra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-03-09 11:55 AM
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4. i think some people would consider nation building to be a negative
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dmallind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-03-09 07:04 PM
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10. Better than the alternative though. NT
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pscot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-03-09 11:36 AM
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3. Where's the option that says
It's not a good war because we have virtually no chance of achieving our objectives in the face of the tribalism, the Islamic fundamentalism and the cultural norms that prevail in the region. Not to mention the fact that the Afghan economy, such as it is, is based on the opium trade. I don't care what secret intelligence the President has access to. This escalation is nuts.
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mkultra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-03-09 11:55 AM
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5. thats the AQ should be left alone option
sounds like you think that its to much trouble to go after them.
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pscot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-04-09 02:53 PM
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13. Do you think our objectives there are achievable?
Edited on Fri Dec-04-09 02:54 PM by pscot
Or even worthwhile? It's not only that it's a lot of trouble. The question is, how many Afghanis are we prepared to kill in order to pacify the place. I suspect we might have to kill them all. Are we up for that? I doubt it. This escalation is stupid and pointless.
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Lilith Velkor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-03-09 03:15 PM
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6. Because I can't tell the difference between AQ and the Taliban
and I think that sending an army to get 100 guys (instead of a special ops team) is the way to go, much like using a sledgehammer (instead of a flyswatter) is the proper way to kill flies.
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mkultra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-03-09 03:58 PM
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7. why does the difference matter
Edited on Thu Dec-03-09 04:00 PM by mkultra
The taliban ran the government and invited AQ to take refuge there after bombing us once. They did not offer to just hand OBL over unless we showed them "evidence" and then only to an Arab country for trial. AQ is said to have more than 3000 members that travel back and forth from north afghanistan to pakistan. 100 AQ guys could easily be with 1000 Taliban.
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Nicholas D Wolfwood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-03-09 04:18 PM
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8. If it's really that easy, what's the problem?
Should be pretty quickly accomplished, according to you.
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Hansel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-03-09 07:11 PM
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11. There's good wars?
There are unfortunately necessary wars and conflicts. None of them are good.
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SpartanDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-03-09 07:15 PM
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12. +1
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HughMoran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-04-09 02:58 PM
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14. I love war
Mmmmm, fresh blood.

(I'm a vampire)
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