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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-28-10 04:28 PM
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Democrats Are Different
Edited on Wed Jul-28-10 04:33 PM by babylonsister
What the hell is wrong with these two guys? Caddell and Schoen, you don't come anywhere near speaking for me. :grr:


Democrats Are Different
Posted by Joe Klein
Wednesday, July 28, 2010 at 10:59 am



It's hard to imagine two prominent Republican pollsters slagging a sitting Republican President. And yet here we have Pat Caddell, who gave Jimmy Carter to the world, and Doug Schoen, who helped salvage a second term for Bill Clinton, disgorging an incendiary and outrageous argument against Barack Obama on the Wall Street Journal's op-ed page. (Actually, both Caddell and Schoen are more emeritus than active when it comes to polling, but no matter.)

The argument is that Barack Obama is divisive. One reason he is divisive, they say, is that he supports immigration reform. George W. Bush supported immigration reform. The Wall Street Journal editorial page has supported immigration reform. Plenty of enlightened Republicans do--for moral reasons and, in the case of the Journal, for valid economic reasons. But Obama supports it--they aver, with zero evidence--solely for political reasons. He wants to gin up the Latino vote. One wonders--and I know I'm going out on a real limb here--if it is possible that the President supports immigration reform because it is the right thing to do. Caddell and Schoen don't even mention the possibility.

Another reason Obama is divisive is because his Justice Department hasn't paid sufficient attention to the New Black Panther Party case. You remember the New Black Panther Party, right? No? I can't imagine why. They were the jerks who dressed up in camouflage fatigues and looked threatening at a Philadelphia polling station on election day in 2008.
One of them brandished a billy club, but didn't use it. Somehow the Republicans have decided this act of street theater is a major threat to democracy as we know it--well, actually no: the Republicans are hoping that they'll be able to tar the President as a crypto-black-racist. This has been a regular entry in the Republican playbook since Richard Nixon's southern strategy. Abigail Thernstrom, a George W. Bush nominee to the Civil Rights Commission, has pretty much said the case was hogwash. The idea that two putative Democrats would give it any credibility at all discredits them entirely.

Then they claim that the President has played the class warfare card by calling out the wealthy--like the bankers who raped the economy and British Petroleum, which pillaged the Gulf. Actually, I'd say the President has underplayed the depredations of the oligarchs (who probably represent some of Caddell and Schoen's corporate clients).
I would have preferred less regulation and more taxation--of financial derivatives, for example--in the recent Regulatory Reform bill.

Indeed, the idea of Obama as populist bomb-thrower seems entirely at variance with the reality of the man...as does the idea of Obama as crypto-racist, as does the idea of Obama as overly political (to the dismay of many, if not most, Democrats).

more...

http://swampland.blogs.time.com/2010/07/28/democrats-are-different/
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niceypoo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-28-10 04:34 PM
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1. More Democrats acting like republicans
Seems to be all the rage these days. With Democrats like these, who needs republicans?
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OHdem10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-28-10 04:35 PM
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2. Why are Caddell and Shoen even permitted to call themselves
Democrats??? I have never heard either of them utter any
value they hold that would be anything but Republican.

I thought this is why they are on Fox so much. Republicans
posing as Democrats and not doing a very good job of it, IMO.
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Guy Whitey Corngood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-28-10 04:52 PM
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3. The first time I heard of this Rasputin looking jagoff Caddell he was on Tweety's show acting like a
Edited on Wed Jul-28-10 04:53 PM by Guy Whitey Corngood
straight up Neocon. I won't even go into what I think of the other assclown. Why anyone would take these 2 seriously is beyond me.
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