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flpoljunkie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-01-10 03:57 PM Original message |
U.S. Healthcare System Wastes Between $600 Billion and $850 Billion Annually |
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Recursion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-01-10 04:07 PM Response to Original message |
1. OK, find a way to palatably reduce the level of unceccesary care |
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flpoljunkie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-01-10 04:24 PM Response to Reply #1 |
2. Not a problem. It can and must be done. |
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Recursion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-01-10 04:29 PM Response to Reply #2 |
3. Something can and must be done and still be a problem |
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flpoljunkie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-01-10 04:44 PM Response to Reply #3 |
4. Take away doctor's and hospital's incentives to over treat, to begin with. |
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flpoljunkie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-01-10 04:59 PM Response to Reply #3 |
5. You might find this article about Dr. Berwick of some value regarding your concerns |
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Jeff In Milwaukee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-01-10 06:32 PM Response to Reply #1 |
7. Here you go |
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cornermouse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-01-10 11:21 PM Response to Reply #7 |
12. I disagree. |
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Jeff In Milwaukee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-02-10 07:22 AM Response to Reply #12 |
18. I know the awful truth.... |
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rucky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-01-10 11:47 PM Response to Reply #1 |
14. Start by letting doctors do their job. |
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flpoljunkie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-02-10 06:41 AM Response to Reply #14 |
16. Profit. You forget the profit motive, rucky. That goes for hospitals, as well. |
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Jeff In Milwaukee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-02-10 08:04 AM Response to Reply #16 |
20. Read up on the Mayo Clinic.... |
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flpoljunkie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-02-10 08:18 AM Response to Reply #20 |
21. Have read how Mayo Clinic operates. We definitely need their model to spread. |
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MedicalAdmin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-02-10 04:11 PM Response to Reply #14 |
28. Every single decision. |
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w4rma (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-01-10 05:35 PM Response to Original message |
6. Is insurance company overhead included in the 17% for Administrative Inefficiency? |
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Jeff In Milwaukee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-01-10 06:35 PM Response to Reply #6 |
8. I'm betting that its some of each.... |
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nightrain (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-01-10 10:49 PM Response to Reply #8 |
9. and the privacy issues with electronic records are huge and need to be addressed, |
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Jeff In Milwaukee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-02-10 07:57 AM Response to Reply #9 |
19. That's true.... |
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nightrain (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-02-10 09:29 AM Response to Reply #19 |
22. actually the question is--why should I, or my clients risk exposure of |
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Jeff In Milwaukee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-02-10 11:19 AM Response to Reply #22 |
23. Because it can save their life |
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nightrain (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-02-10 03:49 PM Response to Reply #23 |
25. LOL! You're being overly dramatic. |
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704wipes (966 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-01-10 10:56 PM Response to Original message |
10. not to mention |
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Festivito (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-01-10 11:08 PM Response to Original message |
11. I think it's more like two to three times that. 1.5T$. /nt |
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golfguru (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-01-10 11:37 PM Response to Original message |
13. Malpractice insurance is very high for surgeons, ob-gyne, hospitals, |
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Jeff In Milwaukee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-02-10 11:36 AM Response to Reply #13 |
24. Here's the thing.. |
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flpoljunkie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-02-10 03:51 PM Response to Reply #24 |
26. MedMal insurance coompanies needed to make up their stock market losses. That's why rates went up. |
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MedicalAdmin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-02-10 04:17 PM Response to Reply #13 |
29. Malparactice premiums are very low in single payer countries |
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SunsetDreams (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-02-10 12:38 AM Response to Original message |
15. Thank you, K&R and bookmarked |
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Vinca (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-02-10 07:00 AM Response to Original message |
17. Add that to the profits big insurance rakes in and there is no way |
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flpoljunkie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-02-10 03:55 PM Response to Reply #17 |
27. No way we will get single-payer system, when what Obama got passed is called 'socialism!' |
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