The Afghanistan and Iraq war policy will unravel this country, this economy and this administration.

[rug]

I don't care what was said during the campaign.

[mix]

1. Will?

The great unraveling has begun.

[golfguru]

2. Afghanistan war is justified

on the grounds that 911 leadership is hiding there.
But the method of fighting is all wrong.
We don't need more young people being killed.

[rug]

4. Al Qaeda wasn't there in any numbers on December 1 when it was escalated.

A lot of people are being destroyed for lies.

[golfguru]

15. Actually AQ is hiding in Pakistan .but...............

since Pakistan will not allow American troops in it's territory,
our military is fighting from Afghan-Pak border.

This is where I differ with our admin. We are gifting Pakistan
Billions of US dollars every year and they are playing us for fools.

[HCE SuiGeneris]

10. Justified only if you accept the premise that 911 was not an orchestrated event

similar to the Reichstag Fire and Gleiwitz Incident.

[golfguru]

13. No I don't.....sold my tin foil hat some time ago n/t

[dflprincess]

24. Oh please

no one know where the 9/11 "masterminds" are. (Unless you're including the traitors who signed onto the PNAC manifesto that said we needed a "new Pearl Harbor" - I'm sure we can track them down.)

Odds are Bin Laden is dead and if he's not he's more apt to be at the Mayo Clinic with all the other Saudis who go there getting his kidney disease treated as he is to be on a dialysis machine in cave in either Pakistan or Afghanistan.

[laugle]

29. Your

right, it was justified; 9 YEARS AGO...........remember Vietnam......

[golfguru]

32. I agree, after 9 years it has turned into a QUAGMIRE

the war can go on but change the method drastically.

[boppers]

3. Leaving Iraq is wrong?

Should we be increasing troops there, then?

[rug]

5. Who's leaving?

I suppose that fortress in Baghdad is going to be an IHOP.

[boppers]

7. We're pulling out 90,000 troops this month.

It's a huge demobilization effort, perhaps you missed that news?

[rug]

8. 90,000 in one month? Yeah I missed that.

How many of them went to Afghanistan?

[boppers]

11. My bad, it's 90,000 *by* this month, not *in* this month.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/08/02/AR2010080201254.html

50,000 remain from our peak of 140,000.

[laugle]

30. Close.....I did hear their going to have a Burger King..LOL..nt

[Uzybone]

6. what do you mean by unravel?

Make us bankrupt? Cause a civil war? Expose the Illuminati?

because the country and economy sucked long before this current Iraq and Afghanistan policy.

[rug]

9. Any progress this administration has gained will be undone by its embrace of this policy.

It is unsustainable politically, economically and morally.

[bvar22]

12. ^^...+

:patriot:

[laugle]

31. You are correct; and that's why the repubs love these wars! nt

[indepat]

33. It's incomprehensible to me that everyone everywhere hasn't all come to grips with this

indisputable fact. :P

Edited for verb tense

[RBInMaine]

14. 90,000 troops out of Iraq since Obama took over. Combat operations ending. Been in some papers.

[rug]

16. 30,000 shifted to Afghanistan. Afghani government crumbling. All's peachy at home.

[ProSense]

17. Here's the

Fact sheet

[rug]

18. Ah, the Office of the Press Secretary. Thank you for an objective source.

[ProSense]

19. You mean, the information is less objective than the opinion in the OP?

Who knew?

[rug]

20. The opinion in the OP is not using the machinery of the government to lay waste to two countries.

Imagine that.

[ProSense]

21. "Iraq war policy will unravel this country, this economy and this administration"

Not a lot of evidence there.

[rug]

22. Just shut your windows so you won't be distrubed by the murmurings of the unemployed.

You can concentrate more fully on repackaging government press releases justifying the war policies.

[ProSense]

23. Here's the deal:

Hyperbole isn't going to unravel the country, economy and the administration.

[dflprincess]

25. No, but 1 "occupation"

and 1 war bleeding the treasury dry will unravel the country, economy and the administration, just like it did the Soviet Union.

[rug]

26. Here's the real deal:

The diversion of one half the country's resources to the military and its unsound adventures is not hyperbole, is, even as we bicker, shutting schools, libraries and factories and draining this country. It is unsustainable. It is fact, not hyperbole.

If you honestly support this administration's expansion of the war in Afghanistan and its permanent entrenchment in Iraq, you do so at the expense of the essential social programs of this country. You can't have it both ways. Pick your side - if you have not done so already.

[mix]

27. +1

:bounce:

[ProSense]

28. "permanent entrenchment in Iraq"

There is no permanent entrenchment in Iraq. The war is ending. Even the President's Afghanistan policy is working toward a timeframe for to begin the process of winding down that war.

[joe black]

34. Huh.

Do you really believe that the U.S. is going to just leave all those bases empty? It's BS to think that only cooks and admin. will be left there.

[moksha]

36. We have a year and a half of war left in Iraq. It isn't ending yet.

Not before another year and a half of money drain and more casualties. As for the Afghanistan policy. Your statement says it all:

"...working toward a timeframe for to begin the process of winding down that war."

How many ways can you say "No end in sight."

[and-justice-for-all]

35. Going too?? they are....

and they are not 'wars', they are occupations.