WSJ - "Hillary for Vice President"

[GSLevel9]

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704388504575419421407147424.html?mod=WSJ_Opinion_MIDDLETopOpinion

As President Obama sinks in the polls, Democrats and liberal pundits inevitably are searching for a scapegoat. The most likely victim appears to be gaffe-prone Vice President Joe Biden, who has become the focus of speculation that Secretary of State Hillary Clinton just might replace him on the 2012 Democratic ticket.

yes, it's John Fund... but I just get this strange feeling in reading this that they're trying to put Hillary in a cage. IF... as they say... Obama is residing over a C-, D+ net result after 2011... why would Hillary be relegated to a VP offer on a ticket looking for a spark?

IMHO... IF Obama truly is weak after 2011... I think Hillary primaries him. Age-wise... this is Hillary's last chance, running for POTUS in 2016 at nearly 70 yo...

Now for a twist... if the WH felt a primary threat from Hillary, might'nt they start talking about a Hillary/VP offer... to neutralize Hillary?

[YOY]

1. Wow...that's really deep.

n.t.

[Skink]

2. I'd rather see Grayson join the ticket.

[Triana]

4. +1 n/t

[ProSense]

3. "yes, it's John Fund... but "

Not this shit again?

"Now for a twist... if the WH felt a primary threat from Hillary, might'nt they start talking about a Hillary/VP offer... to neutralize Hillary?"

Good grief!

:rofl:

[msanthrope]

17. Has John Fund stopped beating his girlfriend yet???

Seriously. No, I'm serious.

[Jennicut]

5. Can we please move on from the 50th article about this?

Has someone asked Biden why he would take the VP job if he had to move out of it in 4 years? I wouldn't have taken it. Hillary will be too old to run for President.

[tiptoe]

6. "An Open Letter to John Fund":

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=203x516031

[SwampG8r]

7. she wont unless biden

stepped down and she was asked
i think this kind of speculation is intended to keep the negatives up for hillary
she is polarizing and as such she is used as a manipulation tool
right now she is doing a fine job and to HER credit she has called ME neither retarded or drug addled

[Jennicut]

9. No but she did argue against Biden to escalate more in Afghanistan.

[SwampG8r]

12. lol you are wasting your bait

i am the last person who will ADVOCATE for hillary
if you need to fight the hillary contingent you need to try other waters

[Jennicut]

13. I hear ya.

From many of the articles I have read, she was the biggest pusher behind on the scenes on the Afghanistan escalation. I am not sure why people think her taking on Obama in a primary would be a good thing, she would be coming from the right on foreign policy issues even more then Obama would. I just needed to vent that.

[SwampG8r]

14. that reaction to her is

why she has risen as high as she will
she makes me vent too

[rocktivity]

8. Rocktivity - "WSJ for Birdcage Liner"

:boring:
rocktivity

[WI_DEM]

10. How come when Bill Clinton went down to 36% in '94 they didn't call for Al Gore to be

replaced or Ronald Reagan when he was at 41% at this time--did they call for Bush to be replaced? all this stuff about Obama's approval rating is stupid when you look at things historically. Most presidents in the second year of their administrations have gone down in the polls. Obama isn't even as bad off as some of them.

[CakeGrrl]

11. You again. Seems to be a pattern to your threads...

:rofl:

[Phx_Dem]

15. She couldn't even manage her campaign, how's she going to manage the country.

Hillary does well when she's not in charge -- one of 100 Senators, Sec of State, etc. But when she's not a good manager.

[krawhitham]

16. That is the only way he can lose my vote

Fuck Hillary, she was a union buster while at Walmart

[oasis]

26. " Hillary union buster"? You have a link to back that up of course.

:eyes:

[stevenleser]

18. The mini 411 on John Fund from personal interaction

The thing that disturbs me most about folks like John (conservative columnists and pundits) is that in person, he is a very likeable guy and he genuinely believes what he says and writes.

I really expected when I started to meet these folks as a consequence of going on Fox that I would hear and see indications that these people really didnt believe what they were saying and it was all some sort of act.

He really believes this stuff. Even when we have discussed things where I think the truth and evidence is overwhelmingly on my side, he disbelieves the evidence and thus continues with his beliefs unabated. These folks assume what I would consider centrist and in some cases barely left/Liberal sites are spewing false information. They will find the barest and most questionable evidence of this and hold that up as proof.

[onenote]

19. if you really think Hillary is going to mount a primary challenge to Obama

you probably should find something other than politics to occupy your time.

[yellowcanine]

20. Yes it is John Fund. Which is why we should just say no and ignore.

[JustAnotherGen]

21. This is the media

Trying to divide the Democratic "house" even more than it is today.


“A house divided against itself cannot stand.” - Abraham Lincoln

[Mass]

22. Fuck Fund and the WSJ.\nt

[AnnetteJacobs]

23. "...sinks in the polls..." ?

:shrug:
News to me.

[craigmatic]

24. Sitting VPs rarely win. The close association with an administration creates electoral fatigue.

The last vp to win was bush before that it was Van Buren.

[AtomicKitten]

25. "...Hillary/VP offer... to neutralize Hillary"

lolsnort

[Metric System]

27. The way the media seems to be framing it is that if Obama were to pick Hillary as VP in 2012 it

would be due to bad poll numbers, trouble in certain states, etc. In other words, a desperate act of a weak President up for re-election. I know that's the way Tweety and company talked on Sunday. Framed that way, there's no way in hell Pres. Obama would or could pick Hillary as VP since it would likely result in that kind of negative press reaction.

[wisteria]

28. She ran, lost badly and I doubt things would be different if she was put on the ticket

as VP. She may get good likability numbers when she isn't running for anything or making any waves-not when they think she wants to be VP or President. I remember not to long ago when people would wince and shake at the thought of her running anything.

[karynnj]

29. You might notice that this is a rumor and the sources

are mostly on the right. The WSJ is not our friend and the point they are conveying is that Obama is not popular. It's not that they love Hillary it's that they love to start dissension.