Which Members of the Professional Left have said Obama=Bush?

[Powdered Toast Man]

I keep seeing that claim... but no names. Maybe I don't watch enough CNN? Links please. I would love to exactly who Gibbs was talking about.

[Political Tiger]

1. Just read this board and you'll find many instances where

that comparison has been made, not to mention all the claims that Nixon was more liberal than Obama.

[Powdered Toast Man]

2. By who?

Members of the board or the "Professionals" According to Gibbs, "we" are not who he was addressing, so I really don't care about comments made by other members of DU about this.

[Political Tiger]

7. Here's a few examples for you.

George W. Obama
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/03/06/AR2009030601328.html

Obama - another Bush in the making
http://www.allvoices.com/contributed-news/2763815-obama-another-bush-in-the-making

5 Reasons Obama Is the Same as Bush
http://politics.usnews.com/news/blogs/washington-whispers/2010/06/04/5-reasons-obama-is-the-same-as-bush-clinton.html

Obama Equals the Third Installment of Bush Policy
http://enableate.com/steve/2009/1508

WSJ: "In Berlin, Obama's Becoming Just Another Bush"
http://atlanticreview.org/archives/1272-WSJ-In-Berlin,-Obamas-Becoming-Just-Another-Bush.html

Obama equals Bush
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z_Whu_3LDnE

Libertarians say Obama same as Bush
http://www.boston.com/news/politics/politicalintelligence/2009/12/libertarians_sa.html

Obama = Bush 3 Updated
http://southdakotapolitics.blogs.com/south_dakota_politics/2009/05/obama-bush-3.html

Chomsky: Obama Policies Same As Bush
http://www.prisonplanet.com/chomsky-obama-policies-same-as-bush.html

Obama and Bush are not so far apart
http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/10/13/wall.bush-obama/index.html

"Little difference" between Obama, Bush in substance
http://www.chomsky.info/interviews/20090624.htm

Obama Equals Bush Bumper Sticker Designs & Templates
http://www.zazzle.ca/obama+equals+bush+bumperstickers

[Powdered Toast Man]

8. Half of those barely qualify as professional

Zazzle? Really? Prison Planet? Come one now.

and the other half are more or less issue specific.

Come on... No heavy hitters with some actual influence?

[izquierdista]

3. We can rule out Bill Maher

He's on cable, but he said that Obama wasn't enough like Bush, because Bush got his way every time he tried to jam something through.*


*Well, not every time. He gave up on his plan to give Social Security to Wall Street.

[MannyGoldstein]

4. Depends on how the "sensible Democrats" are defining Professional Left at the moment

First they claim it only means the Washington insiders - then the answer is "none".

However, when convenient, they define it as "mean people on DU who don't like Obama's policies." Then the answer is "very, very few".

While its true that Obama hasn't restored the rule of law or undone most of Bush's other egregious policies, at least he hasn't done very much that's worse. So I think we'd have to say that Obama is better than a third term of Bush.

[Kalun D]

5. Low Low Bar

""So I think we'd have to say that Obama is better than a third term of Bush.""

that's a low bar you got there

[Powdered Toast Man]

6. My 11 year old sister would be better than Bush.

So, let's say Obama being much better than Bush is just a given.

I'm waiting for a certain someone to come in here and give me links. So far, in all their posts I haven't seen it answered, although it's been asked many times.

[OHdem10]

9. Tonight on C. Rose , Armatige(Bush Administration) even said

a lot of Obama's Foreign Policies are same as GWB.

I have never heard anyone say Obama-Bush. I have heard
and read comments like "this is continuation of Bush Policy."

When I have seen these comments, they are regarding a specific
policy. Like when he decided to surge in Afghanistan.

To me this is not saying Obama is like Bush.

Since the Neocon never went away and some of our party
are Neocons or have formally subscribed to PNAC, I do
not expect too much different from Obama on Foreign
Policy. DLC rules.

[Powdered Toast Man]

10. He would not be a Liberal, now would he?

[FrenchieCat]

12. They say that about all of his policies....

and don't ever have anything good to say.

That's the problem; no balance.

Like everyone was placed in charge of criticizing Obama,
and no one is dealing with the positives things that happen.

So then voters only get to hear the negative all of the time,
and pretty soon they are not so enthused...

then when the Democrats lose their majorities, the same folks
who were writing Obama = Bush in just about every policy,
will now blame him for the fact that they were the ones that
used their bully pulpit to discourage us all, by never accentuating
the positive. Not ever.

[Powdered Toast Man]

16. The problem is the Asterisk

Almost everything he does accomplish has one. Quite frankly, once in a while it would be nice if he were MORE like Bush.

Bush got EVERYTHING he wanted with SMALLER majorities.

He needs to let his ass fall out of his pocket once in a while, and stop compromising with people who have ZERO interest in doing anything to improve this country.

[27inCali]

20. Bush didn't get everything he wanted

He wanted to privatize Social Security. Didn't happen.

He wanted the tax-cuts to be permanent, they aren't.

He wanted to stay in Iraq forever, yet was forced to sign an agreement to pull troops out.

He wanted to pass business-friendly immigration reform. Didn't happen.

He wanted to load our courts with right-wing ideologues, the Senate held them up.

He wanted Harriet Meirs on the Supreme court. Didn't happen.

He wanted to keep Donald Rumsfeld -was forced to replace him with Robert Gates.

No he didn't always get what he wanted. He looked very powerful because he abused his executive authority in a way that was dangerous to the Republic -thank God! Obama is not doing that.

No, to say Bush got everything he wanted is another invention of the 10%ers to better justify their absurd habit of blaming Obama for the shenanigans of the Senate.

[FrenchieCat]

11. Well.....let see.....

FDL - Obama Administration Follows Bush/Cheney On Politicization Of DOJ
http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2010/07/04/obama-administration-follows-bushcheney-on-politicization-of-doj/


David Sirota: Like Bush, Obama Moves to Bury Bad Economic Data
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/david-sirota/like-bush-obama-moves-to_b_484721.html


The Atlantic: On National Security, Is Obama Just Like Bush?
http://www.theatlanticwire.com/opinions/view/opinion/On-National-Security-Is-Obama-Just-Like-Bush-3183


Alternet: Under Obama, Like Bush, Immigrant Suspects Face Injustice ...
http://www.alternet.org/immigration/141118/under_obama,_like_bush,_immigrant_suspects_face_injustice/



Talkleft: Enemy Combatants And Criminal Trials: Is Obama Like Bush ...
http://www.talkleft.com/story/2010/1/5/11168/85336



MotherJones: Obama=Bush?
http://motherjones.com/mojo/2009/03/obamabush



Counterpunch: Obama and Duncan's Education Policy: Like Bush's, Only Worse.
http://www.counterpunch.org/weil08242009.html



Ted Rall: Obama doesn't talk like Bush; he just acts like him ...
http://www.sj-r.com/opinions/x1331535931/Ted-Rall-Obama-doesn-t-talk-like-Bush-he-just-acts-like-him



Christian Science Monitor: Obama touts withdrawal in Iraq war. Does he sound like Bush ...
http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/Military/2010/0802/Obama-touts-withdrawal-in-Iraq-war.-Does-he-sound-like-Bush



NPR: Obama's Homeland Security Looks A Lot Like Bush's : The Two-Way
http://www.npr.org/blogs/thetwo-way/2009/07/obamas_homeland_security_to_lo.html



"Little difference" between Obama, Bush in substance
www.chomsky.info/interviews/20090624.htm


Of course, there's more.

[Powdered Toast Man]

13. I'm sure there are...

And these are all issue specific, and in many instances true. He shares many of the same policies as Bush; many of which we all railed against when Dubya was President.

I guess those all fall into your 10% though.

[FrenchieCat]

15. So what? Do you really want to use the excuse that it has to be exactly

as you have decided...just plain Obama = Bush and nothing more? LOL! See, that's funny.

If the Professional left routinely criticizes Pres. Obama by comparing him to Bush in just
about every policy there is, what in the fuck is left?

And when the same Professional Left believe their only duty is to criticize, and none of them
praise Obama for anything, how is that going to effect voters' morale?

You are wrong on this one. The Professional Left, not wanting to be called "In Obama's pocket" have done exactly what the "Liberal" Media does, and have been extra hard on this President. You may not want to see it, but that is what has happened.

[Powdered Toast Man]

18. And you are so caught up on my terminology that you miss the point.

Wrong is wrong, right is right.

I don't care who it is. And that 10% you spoke of in the other thread just keeps on growing.

[LoZoccolo]

14. Can you quote where Gibbs said that? n/t

[Powdered Toast Man]

17. Ugh...

You are the only one here who thought I was quoting Gibbs.

[NJmaverick]

19. FDL and Huffington to name two prominent websites