For Pete's Sake Democratic Leaders, take a solid position and be proud of it (on the Mosque/Center)

[CreekDog]

(after the Nancy Pelosi, Howard Dean statements today...)

The weasel wording born of a fear, the fear of actually taking the constitutional position on the Muslim Cultural Center in Manhattan --the weaseling is just embarrassing.

Like it or not Republicans are making Democrats own this decision --the only way out is not to wiggle and finesse, it's to either:

1) Flat out oppose the mosque, Republican style --at least Reid took a solid position
2) Support The Constitution and not word that support like you are afraid of offending some ignorant fool in the middle of the spectrum who isn't really sure if the Bill of Rights is a good idea

Sheesh, don't you people understand that everyone smells fear and the smell from the leadership is stank?

Take a damned position that includes, "I don't tell people where to put their churches, temples or mosques --that's the American way. If you don't like it, take it up with Thomas Jefferson, bye."

I hate when the Republicans call Democrats wimps, but I hate it more when our leadership proves them right.

I'm not asking you to adopt my policies or agenda, I'm asking you to act f-ing proud of adopting a strong agenda of any sort! Criminy.

:rant: :grr:

[Steely_Dan]

1. Couldn't agree more...

...Be decisive! Hold to principles.

-P

[Steely_Dan]

2. I posted this the other day...

...I think it supports your position.

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It isn't complex at all.

I want a Party with "PRINCIPLES." I don't care if you call that Progressive or whatever....I simply want our party to have some fucking balls. I'm pissed.

Our principles are bigger than ANY single individual within the party...including our current President.

I believe with all my soul that WE are on the right side of history. I'm tired of the games people play both here and in the "real" world. We either have principles and live by them or we're nothing better than animals....(wait, isn't that a quote from "The Wild Bunch?")

Seriously...I would rather go down in flames fighting for what is right and DOING the right thing, than trying to "sneak" up on our principles...you know, three steps forward and two steps back. For me at least, that is bullshit. We have no cause to hang our heads at the alter of the Right Wing...we act almost ashamed of our principles. You either believe in them or you don't. There is NO MIDDLE ROAD when it comes to having the courage of our convictions. Let justice reign, though the heavens fall....(wait, isn't that a quote from JFK?).

I have no problem telling my new Dem friends that comfortably ride the center rail, that they are not the Democrats of my father or my father's father. They almost take pride in not upholding the VERY BASICS of our platform. Times have changed? You bet they have. And what I have seen change is that our politicians no longer vote based on their PRINCIPLES. They vote based on some back room deal and then have NO PROBLEM sleeping at night.

This country, our Constitution, everything we have been and everything we will ever be requires that we act on the COURAGE of our CONVICTIONS. Nothing else matters.

Don't get me going....

-P

[CreekDog]

3. I remember the post and I couldn't agree more

Our leaders couldn't sell cold water in the desert, i swear sometimes. :banghead:

(yes i know the media is complicit...but this illustrates that even if they weren't, what the hell would our leaders be saying that would get fairly reported? anything to be proud of? not in this case)

[ProSense]

4. Pelosi's words were

clear.

Dean's statement was not his finest moment.