The Pimping Must Stop.

[ChipperbackDemocrat]

Cordoba House. An Islamic community center and place of prayer placed within the caverns of New York City, one of most international cities in the world.
Its sits on a nondescript block of Manhattan within walking distance but out of sight of saddening scar on our nation's face.

At one level, I could understand all the hubbub if the planned new arrival was placed on the grounds what was the World Trade Center. That's the way that certain commentators and legislators, mainly of the conservative bent, have characterized it. However, the real facts point to something that has disturbed me greatly ever since 2001.

The attacks of September 11, 2001 we're sickening, saddening. It is a day that brings a profound reaction to me. Over 3,000 lives ended by mainly a small group of people who twisted faith and protest to an end led mainly by a rich Saudi brat who was rebelling against his parents.

But a worst thing happened. A small cabal of people, led mainly by a rich Texas brat who had some father issues, did worse. They called for the American Way Of Life to go forward, while fundamentally changing the American way, to their own ends.

They went about suspending our constitution. They said that torture was okay. They said that violate civil liberties is okay. They said taking away due process was okay. They said invading a sovereign nation that had done nothing to us was okay. They say that an ongoing war in two theaters, already at the price of nearly 4,500 Americans with maybe many times that wounded or permanently disabled is okay.

All due to the pimping of a sad day in our times.

For 9 years, some very powerful interests have been pimping Septemeber 11, 2001, Cordoba House is just the latest victim, and its an easy target. Do you really think its been easy being Muslim in the nation for the last 9 years? Its funny how we seem to be looking Al-Queda everywhere, but we still can't find them anywhere.
Maybe we don't want to find them, after all there is profit in pimping. All this pimping is keeping the yellow ribbon makers happy. Its certainly kept Karl Rove in this news, like we really need what he has to say. Its given more power to the "Obama is a damn Moo-Leem" crowd. Its dire, sick and wrong and now it rears it ugly head again.

Lets look at the scoreboard again. Patriot Act. Guantanamo. Abu Gharib. Afghanistan. Iraq. Possible permanent bases in both. The rich Saudi brat is still at large. The rich Texas brat is pretty off scot free now. All due in large part to the pimping of September 11, 2001.

And now we're the letting the bastards pimp again. We're letting them use the memories of many loved ones lost again. We're giving them the pretext to scapegoat some, and be brave with other men's and women's bodies again.

At some point THE PIMPING MUST STOP.

[damntexdem]

1. And the Dem caving must stop.

Reid and Dean are just two of those who have wilted under pressure and turned their backs on reason, honor, and the 1st Amendment.

[Arkansas Granny]

2. K & R

[dkf]

3. Cordoba house is the one doing the 9/11 pimping.

They are trying to attract donors based on the location's connection to 9/11. How else do you aspire to raise $100 million with no prosperous organization funding you? The only selling point this mosque has over any other mosque is 9/11. Don't tell me it is an easy thing or even plausible thing to do unless you've got that extra catch.

And apparently it isn't funded yet. They needed a whole lot of controversy or attention to get those type of funds.

[ChipperbackDemocrat]

5. the job's getting done...if that is the case

If that is the case, then the white right wing has done Cordoba House's job and they didn't even know it.

And looking at the partners that the Cordoba House has, I think they'll be able to network to get the monies they need.

What I don't understand is why Americans just can't get real with themselves. This is about a fear of Islam and we've equated Islam to Hizbollah. Typical, very typical.

Demonize the "other" before you really understand who the "other" is.

[dkf]

7. Yeah sounds like some here want to donate themselves.

$100 million. Good luck on that one.

[Vincardog]

6. That sounds like a load of RW BS to me.

[dkf]

8. The Imam said the location was specifically picked because of it's ties to 9/11.

I didn't say that he did.

[Vincardog]

9. It could be that the Imam believed that a community center could honor those Muslims who DIED on 911

[Guy Whitey Corngood]

10. That's because it is. nt

[ChipperbackDemocrat]

4. I agree

I agree, Harry Reid has to stand up and I was surprised about Howard Dean.

The crux of this is our perceptions about Islam. We are conditioned to hear the word "Islam" we think Abu Nidal. That is nowhere near the case, but that is what it is.

The only way this will get turned around is when Americans start standing up and speaking out. Moslem communities in this country are doing it already. Contrary to popular belief, there is a lot of outreach and speaking out against this perception and those in Islamic communities in this country who are playing into this perception. The $64,000 question is how much support of these Muslim-Americans getting from their fellow Americans of a different faith or no faith?

What I am talking about above is a major reason why we aren't speaking out. We are getting so worried about our patriotism being called into question to speak out on an issue that is American to the core.

It is for this reason that I am rather tired of hearing about "Remember 9-11" from people who lost nothing because of it and gained a lot because of it. The families of those who lost a love one that terrible day have every right should they feel some bitterness. Those wounds are still very raw and maybe always will be. However, do you notice the number of people who lost someone close them that day who have spoken out and are speaking out against this vulgar pimping of their memories? That tells me a lot. That tells me that our greater national character has not been sold out completely.

I find it interesting that many of those some people who are so concerned about the plans for Cordoba House hurting those who lost a love one on that day aren't concerned about the thousands of first responders to the tragedy who are still hurting for medical and mental health care and are running into red tape at every turn.
And these people concerned about the thousands of our troops who come back reallu hurting, and finding out that "we can't help you because we're just to underfunded" or "you were just national guard, you don't qualify"

Again, when does the pimping stop?

[LatteLibertine]

11. Yep

We need to stand up and say it's unacceptable to equate all Muslims with Al-Qaeda. Also all Muslims are not responsible for what that sect decides to do. As others have said Muslims were victims on 9/11 too.

There is no "sensitivity" involved. You recognize the above or you do not. A person that does will not be threatened or offended by a community center with one floor available for worship. It is not a Mosque and it is not at ground zero.

Some politicians definitely have a vested interest in vilifying Islam. In addition there are those on the right that would like to see that faith completely eradicated in the US.