Beck: People don't recognize 'Obama's version of Christianity' ("liberation theology")

[jefferson_dem]

:wtf: I didn't think I could hate this piece of shit any more than I did when I woke up this am.

Beck: People don't recognize 'Obama's version of Christianity'
By Matt DeLong

Just one day after he drew a sea of conservative activists to see him speak on the National Mall, Fox News host Glenn Beck appeared on "Fox News Sunday" to discuss the event. Beck said his rally -- at which former Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin also spoke -- drew "on the low end 300,000" attendees up to "as many as 650,000." Beck said there is 'not a chance' of a Beck-Palin GOP ticket in 2012. He said he has "zero desire" to run for president. "I don't think I would be electable," he said.

Beck explained that the gathering, which took place on the 47th anniversary of Martin Luther King Jr.'s "I Have a Dream" speech in the same location, was intended to reclaim the mantle of the civil rights movement from politics for "people of faith." Beck dismissed his critics who say that he has frequently engaged in racial politics by saying "race should not be in politics."

Beck said he didn't agree with King's calls for economic justice. "The real agenda should be equal justice, an equal shot," Beck said. "The dream was to judge man by the content of his character, not the color of his skin. I don't know that we've done that." He added that the Justice Department is "certainly not doing that" in the case of the New Black Panther Party, referencing an alleged incident of voter intimidation on Election Day in 2008 -- a controversy driven in no small part to Beck's television show that many on the left have cited as evidence of Beck's willingness to stoke racial fear among white people. Beck said "African Americans should be equally outraged" over the incident.

The conservative commentator said he regretted his infamous comments that President Obama is a "racist" with a "deep-seated hatred of white people." He said he was "miscasting as racism" the president's "liberation theology" ideology, which he said relies on the lens of "oppressor and victim" to understand the world. Beck said Obama made the case in a speech to students that "your salvation is directly tied to collective salvation," which Beck said was "a direct opposite of what the gospel talks about ... Jesus came for personal salvation." Beck said "people aren't recognizing version of Christianity."

To his critics who attack his wealth, Beck said the money doesn't matter. "I think it's going to be worthless," he said, adding that he doesn't know "if it's going to be gold or acorns" that America will use as currency in the future.

http://voices.washingtonpost.com/44/2010/08/beck-people-dont-recognize-oba.html

[alcibiades_mystery]

1. What's ironic is that this is precisely the philosophy embraced by King

Through the work of one of his most important influences, Reinhold Niebuhr. Beck truly is an ignorant asshole.

[DailyGrind51]

19. And, El Salvador Archbishop Oscar Romero, killed by RW death squads

trained at the School of the Americas!

[IndianaGreen]

20. and SOA/WHINSEC is still graduating death squads at Fort Benning

The only "Change You Can Believe In" has been that the US has accelerated its interference in Latin American affairs in a desperate bid to restore imperialism and the oligarchs we used to depend on.

[suzie]

59. Wow, even a thread about the ugliness of Glen Beck's racism is useful only for

the daily criticism of everything Obama.

[IndianaGreen]

62. The thread was about Beck's accusing Obama of liberation theology

Nothing could have been farther from the truth! The United States, under Republican and Democratic Administrations, have been murdering many of those advocates of liberation theology for years and years, even to this very day!

SOA/WHINSEC is a school that trains future cadres for death squads and torture.

[suzie]

64. The extent to which some will go in their quest to find some "Obama is bad"

meme for the day is amazing to me. And seems totally out of place on a forum that is supposed to support progressive and Democratic ideas.

Misdirecting the theme of this thread to avoid any consideration of Beck's racism because that might somehow, some way, possibly allow some empathy for Obama is completely astounding.

The racist rightwingers like Beck talk about "Black Liberation Theology" and its focus on the lives of African Americans. They are giving out a dog whistle that says "Reverend Wright, scary black man".

To redirect that discussion to one about the Obama administration and Latin America would be surprising, but it seems that for some, never missing out on the opportunity to blame Obama for whatever, is the only thing that counts.

[IndianaGreen]

67. There is no such thing as 'black liberation theology,' there is only liberation theology

You are adopting the righwing's baseless theories, unwittingly so.

Liberation theology has nothing to do with the African-American experience.

Now, if you want to talk about slavery reparations (which I support), I will be more than happy to talk about it.

[suzie]

90. I'd say that you adopt the rightwing's biases every day here on DU.

I have little interest in talking with those whose only agenda seems to be joining the rightwing in the the destruction of the Obama presidency.

[golfguru]

68. What do you have against posters posting facts?

Why do you want to put a blinder on your face about
what is actually happening? DO you think it is better
to sweep every thing posters do not like about Obama
under the rug?

[suzie]

88. To me, the blinder would be to accept that much of the virulent anti-Obama rhetoric

seen every day on DU is not simply another manifestation of the same sort of racism that emanates from the Tea Partiers and other rightwingers.

[Number23]

94. +4 acres and a mule. You absolutely nailed it.

Thank you, suzie.

[DailyGrind51]

93. Jean Donovan and 3 American nuns were raped and shot execution style by SOA grads!

Remember the slogan, "American guns murder nuns!"?

[emilyg]

51. His niece said it's not.

[alcibiades_mystery]

54. She's wrong

The history on this is clear.

[emilyg]

61. Are you an expert? She knew him

better than we did.

[alcibiades_mystery]

65. Am I an expert on civil rights history?

Why yes, I believe I am.

In any case, do a quick search on King, Niebuhr (you know who Niebuhr is, right?) and liberation theology. This isn't arcane history. It is clear from many of Dr. King's statements in the available historical record.

[emilyg]

91. Good for you. Hope you weren't in

diapers when I was marching.

[alcibiades_mystery]

92. Like I said below

Historical evidence is not a matter of personal authenticity. It is either in the historical record, or it is not. We don't get to choose out of clearly documented material based on either or personal preferences or our personal participation. You can keep going to that well if you so choose, but I'm not really that interested.

[maxsolomon]

66. she was 16 when he was killed

i doubt she knew jack about the philosophical underpinnings of his work.

[golfguru]

69. and she has a PhD

so she can't be all that dumb. I salute her
for earning a PhD while I had to work my ass of to
get a master's degree.

[OhioBlue]

71. did she earn it or is it honorary?

seriously - I don't know. Just looked at her education section on Wikipedia and it says:

She studied journalism and sociology as an undergraduate, and she received a Master of Arts degree in business management from Central Michigan University. She received an honorary doctorate from Saint Anselm College.<4> In Salon.com, King explained her honorary degree: "I guess for my stand on the support of marriage, and family, and education, and life."<5>

[golfguru]

73. I honestly do not know

I heard her being addressed as "doctor so and so" and that is all
I was going by. Your research looks true to me however.

The point still is, she was called "dumb" by a poster above, and
that does not seem to be the case.

[OhioBlue]

75. It doesn't seem to be the case

that she is "dumb"... I will give you that. But, I do not see where anyone up thread called her dumb, only to state that she was only 16 at the time of his assassination and probably didn't know a lot about the philosophical underpinnings of his work.

I think that is a valid argument.

[golfguru]

76. omg

at 16 I knew exactly how my baby brother was made by
my parents!

Seriously, by saying she was only 16 when King was
assassinated implication was made she could not possibly
comprehend his philosophy and teachings.

But she is not 16 any more when she appeared at the DC rally.
She has had ample time to soak in all the wisdom of Dr. King.
Not only that but she grew up with the King family. That alone
qualifies her as a true representative of Dr. King.

[emilyg]

77. Absolutely.

[OhioBlue]

81. just wow. n/t

[OhioBlue]

79. I disagree...

At 16 sure we know where babies come from but few of us know the philosophical underpinnings of anything....

Her father, Dr. King's brother died a year later. It is truly a tragic story. I feel for her and think she is an intelligent and accomplished woman. I don't think however that we can say that she is qualified to be a "true representative" of Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. just by being his niece and an accomplished woman. She does not seem to share his philosophy.

Serious question here... Do you really believe she knew him and his philosophies better than those who were adults with him and marched with him like Al Sharpton or his own son Martin Luther King III?

I have to disagree so very strongly that she is a true representative of Dr. King when she is the complete opposite of those that were the closest to him.

[golfguru]

86. The most famous phrase MLK uttered was..

"He dreams of a day when people are judged by the content of their
character and not by the color of their skin." (slight paraphrasing)

I believe his niece is in full agreement with that.

[alcibiades_mystery]

80. Historical evidence is not a matter of personal authenticity

As the saying goes, one is entitled to one's own opinion, but not one's own facts. And whatever Dr. King's niece might say, she would have a hard time explaining away the dozens of easily available public statements (and probably hundreds of archival statements in letters and notes) by Dr. King himself on the subject of Niebuhr's influence on his thought and practice. This is not even really a matter of dispute among anyone familiar with the historical record. The recent historical work on what is called the "Long Civil Rights Movement" makes the influence of Niebuhr even more clear on the whole trajectory of the movement - not just Dr. King and not just in the 60's. There are just mountains of clear evidence on this.

[IndianaGreen]

63. She is a Christian fundamentalist that opposes abortion rights and LGBT rights

that feels that LGBTs are an abomination.

[golfguru]

70. Does that make her stupid?

Or just some one with a different belief and opinion?

[IndianaGreen]

72. The Holocaust is proof there is no God

[golfguru]

74. As some one who is not religious,

I have nothing against those who believe in God.
AFAIK the Christians do not say that God always does good things.
According to them God has his ways of testing you.

The Hindu philosophy makes more sense to me in that they believe
everything that happens is in your "karma". And that your fate is
a result of your past sins and pious deeds from previous lives.
In Hindu religion your sins are never forgiven by repentance alone.
One has to perform enough "good" deeds to absolve your sins in order
to be re-incarnated in a better life next time.

[emilyg]

78. I am a survivor - don't agree with you.

[IndianaGreen]

82. Where was that God during the Holocaust? Nowhere! AWOL!

A myth!

It is either that, or God is a sorry ass murderous sonofabitch that delighted in the murder of millions.

[emilyg]

89. She's entitled to her beliefs.

[ladywnch]

2. under a 100 thousand............to a over a quarter million.......what's the diff?

REAL people with the ability to count put the number more like 87 thousand......although when you look at the size of some of these folks it is easy to see how their numbers might get wildly inflated......3 people take up the same footprint as 6 normal size folks.......'pssssst, pass the cheese curls and the pork rinds please.'

[joeglow3]

15. Wow ,stereotyping and ridicule of overweight people all in one post

I certainly hope you were doing a Beck impression, as you sound just like him.

[phleshdef]

3. LOL. Coming from a Mormon, which teaches that black people were cursed by God with their skin color.

[blueworld]

4. Anyone on stage washing feet whilst bloviating? Didn't think so. n/t

[madmom]

5. Well then...

why does he take the money, why doesn't he just burn it? We know he won't give it away.


"To his critics who attack his wealth, Beck said the money doesn't matter. "I think it's going to be worthless," he said, adding that he doesn't know "if it's going to be gold or acorns" that America will use as currency in the future."

[IndianaGreen]

6. Beck is sliming Obama

Obama is an opponent of Liberation Theology and economic justice. The Obama Administration shameful role in the recent coup in Honduras, and its hostile acts and words against progressive movements and governments in Latin America are proof of that!

[jefferson_dem]

7. There you go!

Use Beck's bottom-feeding scumbaggery as an opportunity to try to land your own jabs against Obama. Classy.

[IndianaGreen]

8. Obama is not a socialist either!

A Socialist Administration would have frozen all foreclosures and renegotiated all mortgages, by nationalizing the major banks. A Socialist Administration would have lowered credit card rates from its usury levels to a reasonable level so that people could get out of debt.

A Socialist Administration would have thrown the Wall Street crooks in jail, not bailed them out.

A Socialist Administration would have launched New Deal sized works programs to put the unemployed to work to rebuild America.

A Socialist Administration would have brought the War on Drugs and War on Terror to a swift conclusion, shifting the funds wasted on them to invest in people.

A Socialist Administration would have restored the Fairness Doctrine, smashed media concentration, and fought for Net Neutrality.

A Socialist Administration would have expanded Medicare to all Americans, providing cradle to grave universal health care for all.

A Socialist Administration would have lowered the retirement age, and boosted Social Security payments, to allow younger people the opportunity to get jobs now currently held by older workers too afraid to retire.

A Socialist Administration would have dismantled the national security apparatus that has existed since the end of WWII, and expanded under the pretext of fighting terrorism.

A Socialist Administration would have send Bush, Cheney, and others to The Hague to face justice.

That's just for starters!

[FrenchieCat]

11. Wow, IndianaGreen......

what are you now? Judge of who believes in what and why that is?

How cool for you to have given yourself that assignment! :sarcasm:

Guess that one can only truly believe in what they say they believe
only IF they are as perfect as God himself in your eyes. Good to know.

[IndianaGreen]

16. Jesus would have never kept the for-profit health delivery system

Jesus would have sided with the poor and the oppressed, and would have condemned the rich and powerful, as he consistently did throughout the biblical accounts of his life.

Honduras coup was the US's doing!

[jefferson_dem]

25. I thought it was the other side who tossed out the "he's not a proper Christian" soul-reading BS.

Guess they don't have that market cornered.

[IndianaGreen]

26. Religion is a private matter and our Founders were far from being Christian

Beck is sliming Obama.

[jefferson_dem]

28. We totally agree, IndianGreen.

Cheers!

[Mimosa]

44. FrenchieCat Indiana Green is only saying the President isn't a socialist

What's wrong with that?

The right wing keeps lying and claiming Obama is a socialist. He is not.

[BeyondGeography]

27. While you're here, maybe you could find it in yourself to appreciate the dilemma

A Marxist to Beck, a weak-kneed corporate sellout to you and your friends.

I don't know. Maybe the truth lies somewhere in between.

[Name removed]

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[IndianaGreen]

30. One Year Later: Honduras Resistance Strong Despite US-Supported Coup

6. Beck is sliming Obama

Obama is an opponent of Liberation Theology and economic justice. The Obama Administration shameful role in the recent coup in Honduras, and its hostile acts and words against progressive movements and governments in Latin America are proof of that!

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=433&topic_id=423509&mesg_id=423561

One Year Later: Honduras Resistance Strong Despite US-Supported Coup

Monday 28 June 2010

by: Laura Raymond and Bill Quigley, t r u t h o u t | Op-Ed

One year ago, on June 28, 2009, Honduran President Manuel Zelaya was awakened by gunfire. A coup was carried out by U.S.-trained military officers, including graduates of the infamous U.S. Army School of the Americas (WHINSEC) in Georgia. President Zelaya was illegally taken to Costa Rica.

Democracy in Honduras ended as a de facto government of the rich and powerful seized control. A sham election backed by the U.S. confirmed the leadership of the coup powers. The U.S. and powerful lobbyists continue to roam the hemisphere trying to convince other Latin American countries to normalize relations with the coup government.

The media has ignored the revival of U.S. hard power in the Americas and the widespread resistance that challenges it.

A pro-democracy movement, the Frente Nacional de Resistencia Popular (FNRP) formed in the coup's aftermath. Despite horrendous repression, it has organized the anger and passion of a multitude of mass-based popular movements - landless workers, farmers, women, LGBTQ folks, unions, youth and others - and spread a palpable energy of possibility and hope throughout the country.

These forces of democracy have been subjected to police killings, arbitrary detentions, beatings, rape and other sexual abuse of women and girls, torture and harassment of journalists, judges and activists. Prominent LGBTQ activists, labor organizers, campesinos and youth working with the resistance have been assassinated. Leaders have been driven into exile.

http://www.truth-out.org/one-year-later-honduras-resistance-strong-despite-us-supported-coup60852

[RamboLiberal]

9. IMHO Beck just rolled out the latest Dog-Whistle against Obama

and smoothly rolled it into his non-apology about calling Obama a racist. And no one in the damn MSM will check him on it.

[Hansel]

14. Check him on it? Hell they propagated it by printing this tripe.

It sells newspapers you know. Jerks.

[rug]

10. As opposed to this:

"Origin of Elohim (God the Father)
"According to Mormon theology, God the Father is a physical being of "flesh and bones." Mormons identify him as the Biblical god Elohim. Latter-day Saint leaders have also taught that God the Father was once a mortal man who has completed the process of becoming an exalted being. According to Joseph Smith, God "once was a man like one of us and…once dwelled on an earth the same as Jesus Christ himself did in the flesh and like us.

"Origin of Jehovah (Jesus)
"According to Mormon belief, Jesus is identified as the god Jehovah (Yahweh). The pre-mortal Jehovah was born to the Virgin Mary and was named Jesus. Jesus was the Son of God—the literal father of his physical body was God the Father. Because Jesus was the Son of God, he had power to overcome physical death. Because he lived a perfect and sinless life, Jesus could offer himself as an "infinite and eternal" sacrifice that would be required to pay for the sins of all of the other children of God.

"Adam/Michael, under the Adam–God doctrine
"According to Brigham Young, Adam was a god identified as the Biblical archangel Michael prior to his placement in the Garden of Eden. The pre-existent godhood of Adam/Michael is now repudiated by the LDS Church, but it is accepted by some adherents of Mormon fundamentalism. According to this interpretation of Young's teachings, Michael was a god who had received his exaltation and was residing on another planet. From that planet, he took Eve, one of his wives, to the Garden, where they became mortal by eating the fruit in the garden. Although the LDS Church has repudiated the Adam–God doctrine, the denomination's Endowment ceremony portrays this Adam/Michael as a participant with Jesus in the creation of the earth, under the direction of Elohim.

"Heavenly mother, the Holy Spirit, and other gods and goddesses
The official doctrine of the LDS Church includes the existence of "heavenly parents" (plural), which is generally understood to refer to the goddess Heavenly Mother, who exists alongside God the Father."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mormon_cosmology#Origin_of_Jehovah_.28Jesus.29

[ibegurpard]

12. He's a Mormon

a lot of people don't even consider them christians...a lot of people who are supporting him blindly.
I think it needs to be pointed out a little more strenuously.

[JoePhilly]

22. Agree ...

The far right sees Mormons and Catholics as FALSE Christians.

They avoid mentioning this because it hurts their alliance.

When ever I can, I make it an issue for them.

[one_voice]

13. This is what's scary about...

this group of "conservatives" Bachmann, Palin, Beck, etc. They want to decide who is and who isn't a Christian. They think their version of Christianity is the only version. Everyone else is lost, anti-Christian, and by extension anti-American.

They want to "rule" as a theocracy. You can see this shit coming a mile away.

That's what yesterday was all about. Get that hard right, religious group motivated. Once they have the numbers..look out.

There are so many other religious people that find this the direct opposite of what being a Christian is. I hope that those people stand firm in their beliefs.

Just add this to the list of reasons I'm not going to sit home and pout in Nov.

[awoke_in_2003]

31. "people stand firm in their beliefs"

I just wish people would start standing firm in FACTS. Beliefs and a dollar will buy you a cup of coffee.

[MadMaddie]

50. Kind of sounds like

let's see what was it

Oh that's right "The Crusades"!! The only thing missing is the murders of non-believers.

That's why it's important not to ignore these crazies, if they come into power again you better believe they will immulate TX and other Southern states run by religious fanatics.

[Rosa Luxemburg]

17. Beck is treading on dangerous ground

he's out of his league

[QC]

18. Most people don't recognize Beck's 19th century space cult as Christian, either.

Beck really needs to be careful here, because his antics could lead to a public discussion of Mormon doctrine, something that would not serve Beck or his church very well at all.

Do they really want the mainstream Christians whose support they covet to know, for example, that they believe that Jesus and Satan are brothers? Or that God and his harem do the nasty morning, noon, and night in order to produce spirit children? Etc.

[IndianaGreen]

23. Beck was preaching individualism while the Bible teaches collectivism

Beck's Christianity has no resemblance to the economic justice that the Biblical prophets demanded, or to the collectivism and equality preached by Jesus, and adhered to by his early followers (as illustrated in the Book of Acts of the Apostles).

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[JoePhilly]

21. But I thought Obama was a Muslim????

[BeyondGeography]

24. Every American era needs its assclown

[awoke_in_2003]

33. "Every American era needs its assclown"

Well, then, we lead the world in something :rofl:

[Arkana]

35. The 50s had McCarthy, the 60s had Goldwater, the 70s had Nixon,

the 80s had Reagan, the 90s had Gingrich, and the 00s have Beck, Palin, and every other Hitler-fucking reactionary nutjob in the country.

[wookie72]

36. Goldwater came out in favour of gay marriage, medical marijuana

and essentially disowned the conservatives of the 90s. Not a fair comparison.

[Arkana]

38. In the 60s, Goldwater was a kook.

[wookie72]

47. He was always complicated

He was rabidly anti-communist, and it's a damn good thing he was not elected in 1964. However, he was also in favour of personal liberty, and he would have never abided the homophobia and drug war hysteria of the current conservatives.

[Arkana]

34. I do hope he realizes what he just did.

He repudiated the claims that Obama is a Muslim.

[wookie72]

37. I would love it if Obama believed in Liberation Theology

BUt I don't think he does. He's a pragmatic Christian, as he is with most things.

[harun]

39. +1, if he does, he knows he can't admit it out loud.

[wookie72]

45. And Beck has it wrong anyway

Liberation Theology has nothing to do with "victimhood," at least the original variety (to be honest, I'd never heard of Black Liberation Theology until the 2008 election). IT's about translating the Gospels into action by actually helping the poor and downtrodden. Really nothing to be scared of, unless you're uber-rich...

[harun]

48. Yah, he is just using it as a scare tactic to freak out rich people.

[saltpoint]

40. Gold or Acorns. That is the question.

Landlords and the electric company would probably prefer gold.

Poets and painters the acorns.

For what it's worth, the more liberational Christianity is the more persuasive it is. Not myself a card-carrying practitioner, I do appreciate the "Jesus Was A Liberal" bumper stickers.

Render unto FOX News those distortions that are their signature trademark.

[activa8tr]

56. Maybe Glenn will start working for an Acorn-pushing marketing scheme!

He is such slime, and the fact that he is rich beyond belief makes him slimier.

[saltpoint]

85. Agree.

Hi, activa8tr.

The money he is making must be driven over in 18-wheelers to Beck's house.

Idiot dollars, every one of them.

[VMI Dem]

41. Obama has added an "except gays" clause to "liberation theology".

:thumbsdown:

[The Wizard]

42. So let me get this straight

Only Christians are allowed to be president.
The Constitution, some of us defended with our lives, clearly states that there shall be no religious test for someone to hold public office.
The Becks, Palins, and their fascist following are implying that non Christians are some how second class citizens.
As a disabled veteran and non Christian I take offense.
The Constitution is more than the Second Amendment.
The entire right wing propaganda operation needs to be shut down and its leaders incarcerated in solitary confinement for 50 years.

[quaker bill]

43. First, "liberation theology"

Is hardly "Obama's version" of Christianity. It existed long before Barack Obama knew of it. It is not even entirely clear that he is an adhereant.

Second, one does not need to follow "liberation theology" to find a social testimony in the Bible, or for that matter in any of the Abrahamic faiths, to include Islam and Judiaism with Christianity in the mix. Nearly all Christian churches see a social context to their message and find themselves as a community, and the bulk have a social testimony at some level. Judiaism and Islam are faiths that place high value on social context and are community oriented.

Basically only tent-revival Christianity places sharp and exclusive focus on individual salvation. Tent-revival Christianity was precisely what Beck was attempting to do on the mall. Any good tent-revival service includes a story from the leader about how he/she was personally lost to sin and depraved/defiled, poor, homeless, helpless, imprisoned, the uglier the better. Then they shift from this to "finding Christ as their personal savior", whereupon they find love, fame, money, health, employment, all things good. This is then promptly followed by an "altar call" where people are encouraged to confess their sins and accept Jesus.... then usually the basket is passed. The funny thing is that you can find people who do this sort of thing far better than Beck, on any Sunday morning, on AM radio in the south. They make good money at it, but very few lives are changed in any enduring way.

Another funny bit is that while Beck contorts himself and the message to find salvation on a strict personal level, the whole concept of "turning a nation back to God" implies a larger social / political context. For any such a "national" move to have any meaning or relevance a larger social testimony is implied. When one looks at the Bible for any larger social context to the message, charity and care for the sick, poor, widowed, and orphaned comes straight to the front. It is important to understand that the letters in the Bible between the apostles and the early church indicate that it functioned largely as a communal society and that living in faith was to be a part of this commune. It was precisely not libertarian in even the least sense.

[Mimosa]

46. ^ Good post, Quaker Bill ^

Glenn Beck is nothing but a demagoguing oaf. He knows nothing of the various religions about which he misleads his low information audience.

Beck is manipulating the fears and ignorance of people who are afraid.

[quaker bill]

84. This is the nature

of what he was attempting to ape (no insult intended to apes). The tent revival approach is highly emotionally charged and entirely manipulated. People go to these things because they want to be manipulated in that way. They find it cathartic, the problem is that it is short lived, and only really works well if you have some really bold and fresh sins to confess. Generally, people will get on and off this wagon repeatedly. The bigger the fall, the more powerful the redemption. It becomes much like a drug for those so afflicted. It is a nasty little number.

[AspenRose]

49. Wait a minute - Obama's a Christian now? I thought he was a Muslim.

I'm so confused. :dunce:



And for those who don't know any better
:sarcasm:

[sad sally]

52. Funny though, how Beck started this interview with Wallace, saying

the rally and all he cared about was God, but it (interview) ended up being all about Beck. His ego was mighty big, and not God-like at all.

[jenmito]

53. It was so convenient that he left out the word "BLACK" before "Liberation Theology"

even though he's constantly claiming Obama believes in "Black Liberation Theology" on his show. :eyes:

[activa8tr]

57. VERY CONVENIENT!!! Very opportunistic.

Very post-racial? I doubt THAT!

[jenmito]

60. Exactly.

He's a dangerous, lying phony who creates many monsters willing to "take out" the "radical racist Muslim Marxist Socialist Communist who hates America."

[activa8tr]

55. "on the low end 300,000" attendees up to "as many as 650,000"?

What was once "racism" is now "liberation theology"?

Oh how well he can dance about the truth!

[Dawson Leery]

58. What Glenn Beckkk is saying

is that Martin Luther King was no advocate of equality, and that he (Glenn Beckkk: Koch backed, non-Christian Mormon, Calvinist bootliker) is.
Glenn Beckkk and his klan can go F**K themselves!

[zulchzulu]

83. Since when does a drug-addled Mormon moron get to tell what a real Christian is?

Beck will face his karmic horror soon enough. Count on it.

[DemocraticPilgrim]

87. People should more keep highlighting do his viewers in their exclusivity accept his mormonism??? If

so they can accept any variety of Christianity.