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Amerigo Vespucci Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-01-10 11:46 AM
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I've got to post this or I will fucking explode. The Bush patriot remarks PISSED ME OFF.
That's all I'm going to say.

It was the right thing to do, it was the wrong thing to do, it was an audaciously hopeful thing to do.

Having the President of the United States call a scumbag who lied us into war and JOKED ABOUT NON-EXISTENT WMDs a "patriot" pissed me off.

A rootin-tootin fake-ass cowboy too busy watching cartoons and jerking off on his fake-ass ranch to read a little report we like to call "bin Laden Determined To Strike In The US" is now a motherfucking PATRIOT whose intentions cannot be QUESTIONED?

I don't need to elaborate. I simply refuse to give President Obama a pass. I know President Obama does not go to bed each night worrying about whether or not he disappointed me, so it's my issue, and bigger issues will displace it in a very short period of time, I'm sure.

:rant:
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Vincardog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-01-10 11:47 AM
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1. K & R
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Ernesto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-01-10 11:48 AM
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2. Tell it like it is AV...................... nt (K&R)
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phantom power Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-01-10 11:48 AM
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3. I really don't get it -- there was absolutely no upside to even mentioning Bush...
Although as far as I'm concerned, the only appropriate context to be mentioning Bush in is the context of calling him out as the fucker who gave us the failed Iraq war.

:puke:
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Amerigo Vespucci Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-01-10 11:51 AM
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4. If you read the post-speech remarks from the GOP...
...they are saying Bush was not given enough "credit."

For some reason, President Obama feels he can work both sides of the aisle. On one hand, I find that admirable. On the other hand, he might want to look at how well that's served him so far.

His major accomplishment, I feel, was pissing off the people who voted him into office. I don't believe a large number of Obama voters see George W. Bush as a freedom-lovin' partiot.

:patriot:
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grasswire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-01-10 11:51 AM
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5. for the first time, I seriously wondered whether Obama is being blackmailed.
Really.

Why else would he make those remarks?

Are the Bushies blackmailing him? Or threatening him?
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Amerigo Vespucci Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-01-10 11:55 AM
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8. You're furious, I'm furious, and the thread is getting "unrecommended."
I can see a couple of reasons for that:

1). Bush supporters don't like what I had to say

2). DUers who have written an unconditional blank check to President Obama don;t like what I had to say.

That's their opinion, and they're entitled to it.

I don't fit into either category.

:patriot:
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avaistheone1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-01-10 12:00 PM
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9. Proud
not to be in either of those categories as well. :patriot:

So glad you posted this thread. I have it with Obama after that speech. I too am ready to explode.
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ladjf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-01-10 12:12 PM
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11. Don't worry about that. You wrote a good post. You spoke for many of us. nt
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sharp_stick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-01-10 12:16 PM
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13. Obama = Bush Huh
Edited on Wed Sep-01-10 12:17 PM by sharp_stick
Typically classy I see, as always.
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Hawkowl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-01-10 11:53 AM
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7. It is the last straw for me
Truly. Barring some unforeseen turnaround in Obama, or the Rethuglicans running Glen Beck in 2012, I will not be able to vote for him again.
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democrank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-01-10 12:05 PM
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10. It`s the absolute last straw for me.
I`ll leave the excuse-making for the continuation of Bush`s policies and the "right thing to do" crap about President Obama`s praises of Junior Bush to other DUers.

Some patriot, that AWOL Bush.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-01-10 12:12 PM
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TreasonousBastard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-01-10 12:18 PM
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14. +1
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tallahasseedem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-01-10 12:48 PM
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21. +1
Absolutely.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-01-10 12:55 PM
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avaistheone1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-01-10 12:59 PM
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24. - 10000000000000000000000000
Just goes to show our Democratic leadership is dumber than dirt to do a tailspin and honor a lying alcoholic sociopath war monger like Bush and then follow in his footsteps is beyond the pale of stupid.

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Amerigo Vespucci Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-01-10 02:05 PM
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28. I hear you, but...I didn't say "This is the last straw"
Edited on Wed Sep-01-10 02:12 PM by Amerigo Vespucci
This one thing pissed me off.

One thing.

If I had intended to say "This is the last straw," that's what I would have said.

I have the right to speak out against one incident without becoming an overly touchy wimp.

Since you posted your response after reading my post, you responded to what you chose to see, so I'm not going to try to change your opinion.

But I will set the record straight about what I posted and the overall context in which I posted it.

And one more thing for the record...another example of "the kind of fucking idiocy" that causes us to "always lose elections" is the way we eat our own when they express an opinion, especially when we sit down to the dinner table before we clearly understand what is being said.

No harm, no foul. But I'm not "some people here."
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-01-10 11:29 PM
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yurbud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-01-10 12:24 PM
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15. I was sickened and at the same time, see the logic behind it: it will be hard for right to knock
him on war after he praised Bush, and don't forget, the right owns the media microphone.

We can have all kinds of killer talking points, but if Obama says them and the media distorts them or more likely simply refuses to discuss them, it will be like it never happened.
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phantom power Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-01-10 12:33 PM
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18. No, it won't. That's the point: the GOP will cheerfully continue to bitch slap him.
He will get exactly zero "Right-wing points" for this.
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yurbud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-01-10 01:49 PM
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27. not from pundits but from the outer edges of the just barely right wing
I teach college and I have had students who were righties but bright and inquisitive nonetheless. I myself was much further right through most of college.

What happened to me could happen to those outliers: they could see the difference between the pundit and pols BS and reality.

I would not advocate a speech like Obama's on Iraq as the way to win people over--more are attracted to a strong statement of beliefs and priorities followed by vigorous action that matches, but I'm looking for a silver lining in a speech that is otherwise disheartening and makes it look like especially on foreign policy, the difference between the two parties is superficial at best.
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LoZoccolo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-01-10 12:27 PM
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16. I bet President Palin will piss you off more.
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chill_wind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-01-10 11:02 PM
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30. And just think. She'll be able to worry about the rule of law even less
than the last pack of fascist scum did. And we'll call her a patriot too.
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pansypoo53219 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-01-10 12:33 PM
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17. i thought the 'praise' obama gave W was
just enough. i thought he gave the chimperor enough pokes considering where the speech was. more troop praise.
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avaistheone1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-01-10 12:46 PM
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20. Oh please! He called the chimp mass murderer lying son of a bitch - a patriot.

For chrissakes!



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pscot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-01-10 12:53 PM
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22. Why would he do it?
We have a tough election coming up. Why go out of his way to legitimize the leader of the opposition? It's beyond stupid. I really had no idea what I was voting for in 2008.
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-01-10 01:09 PM
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25. Chiming in w #12...good post... ..excellent... .and...count me in as PISSED TOO
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Still Blue in PDX Donating Member (633 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-01-10 01:25 PM
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26. Pisses me off, too.
I didn't hear or read or see the whole speech, but in any context even hinting that GWB is a patriot is a fucking lie and no one with any self-respect or respect for his country would say it.

Of course that is just my opinion (and the opinion of pretty much anyone who paid attention during that sonofabitch's pResidency and annihilation of the constitution as we knew it).
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Amerigo Vespucci Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-01-10 02:10 PM
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29. Here's the whole speech.
http://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/2010/08/31/remarks-president-address-nation-end-combat-operations-iraq

The White House

Office of the Press Secretary
For Immediate Release
August 31, 2010
Remarks by the President in Address to the Nation on the End of Combat Operations in Iraq
Oval Office

8:00 P.M. EDT

THE PRESIDENT: Good evening. Tonight, I’d like to talk to you about the end of our combat mission in Iraq, the ongoing security challenges we face, and the need to rebuild our nation here at home.

I know this historic moment comes at a time of great uncertainty for many Americans. We’ve now been through nearly a decade of war. We’ve endured a long and painful recession. And sometimes in the midst of these storms, the future that we’re trying to build for our nation -- a future of lasting peace and long-term prosperity -- may seem beyond our reach.

But this milestone should serve as a reminder to all Americans that the future is ours to shape if we move forward with confidence and commitment. It should also serve as a message to the world that the United States of America intends to sustain and strengthen our leadership in this young century.

From this desk, seven and a half years ago, President Bush announced the beginning of military operations in Iraq. Much has changed since that night. A war to disarm a state became a fight against an insurgency. Terrorism and sectarian warfare threatened to tear Iraq apart. Thousands of Americans gave their lives; tens of thousands have been wounded. Our relations abroad were strained. Our unity at home was tested.

These are the rough waters encountered during the course of one of America’s longest wars. Yet there has been one constant amidst these shifting tides. At every turn, America’s men and women in uniform have served with courage and resolve. As Commander-in-Chief, I am incredibly proud of their service. And like all Americans, I’m awed by their sacrifice, and by the sacrifices of their families.

The Americans who have served in Iraq completed every mission they were given. They defeated a regime that had terrorized its people. Together with Iraqis and coalition partners who made huge sacrifices of their own, our troops fought block by block to help Iraq seize the chance for a better future. They shifted tactics to protect the Iraqi people, trained Iraqi Security Forces, and took out terrorist leaders. Because of our troops and civilians -- and because of the resilience of the Iraqi people -- Iraq has the opportunity to embrace a new destiny, even though many challenges remain.

So tonight, I am announcing that the American combat mission in Iraq has ended. Operation Iraqi Freedom is over, and the Iraqi people now have lead responsibility for the security of their country.

This was my pledge to the American people as a candidate for this office. Last February, I announced a plan that would bring our combat brigades out of Iraq, while redoubling our efforts to strengthen Iraq’s Security Forces and support its government and people.

That’s what we’ve done. We’ve removed nearly 100,000 U.S. troops from Iraq. We’ve closed or transferred to the Iraqis hundreds of bases. And we have moved millions of pieces of equipment out of Iraq.

This completes a transition to Iraqi responsibility for their own security. U.S. troops pulled out of Iraq’s cities last summer, and Iraqi forces have moved into the lead with considerable skill and commitment to their fellow citizens. Even as Iraq continues to suffer terrorist attacks, security incidents have been near the lowest on record since the war began. And Iraqi forces have taken the fight to al Qaeda, removing much of its leadership in Iraqi-led operations.

This year also saw Iraq hold credible elections that drew a strong turnout. A caretaker administration is in place as Iraqis form a government based on the results of that election. Tonight, I encourage Iraq’s leaders to move forward with a sense of urgency to form an inclusive government that is just, representative, and accountable to the Iraqi people. And when that government is in place, there should be no doubt: The Iraqi people will have a strong partner in the United States. Our combat mission is ending, but our commitment to Iraq’s future is not.

Going forward, a transitional force of U.S. troops will remain in Iraq with a different mission: advising and assisting Iraq’s Security Forces, supporting Iraqi troops in targeted counterterrorism missions, and protecting our civilians. Consistent with our agreement with the Iraqi government, all U.S. troops will leave by the end of next year. As our military draws down, our dedicated civilians -- diplomats, aid workers, and advisors -- are moving into the lead to support Iraq as it strengthens its government, resolves political disputes, resettles those displaced by war, and builds ties with the region and the world. That’s a message that Vice President Biden is delivering to the Iraqi people through his visit there today.

This new approach reflects our long-term partnership with Iraq -- one based upon mutual interest and mutual respect. Of course, violence will not end with our combat mission. Extremists will continue to set off bombs, attack Iraqi civilians and try to spark sectarian strife. But ultimately, these terrorists will fail to achieve their goals. Iraqis are a proud people. They have rejected sectarian war, and they have no interest in endless destruction. They understand that, in the end, only Iraqis can resolve their differences and police their streets. Only Iraqis can build a democracy within their borders. What America can do, and will do, is provide support for the Iraqi people as both a friend and a partner.

Ending this war is not only in Iraq’s interest -- it’s in our own. The United States has paid a huge price to put the future of Iraq in the hands of its people. We have sent our young men and women to make enormous sacrifices in Iraq, and spent vast resources abroad at a time of tight budgets at home. We’ve persevered because of a belief we share with the Iraqi people -- a belief that out of the ashes of war, a new beginning could be born in this cradle of civilization. Through this remarkable chapter in the history of the United States and Iraq, we have met our responsibility. Now, it’s time to turn the page.

As we do, I’m mindful that the Iraq war has been a contentious issue at home. Here, too, it’s time to turn the page. This afternoon, I spoke to former President George W. Bush. It’s well known that he and I disagreed about the war from its outset. Yet no one can doubt President Bush’s support for our troops, or his love of country and commitment to our security. As I’ve said, there were patriots who supported this war, and patriots who opposed it. And all of us are united in appreciation for our servicemen and women, and our hopes for Iraqis’ future.

The greatness of our democracy is grounded in our ability to move beyond our differences, and to learn from our experience as we confront the many challenges ahead. And no challenge is more essential to our security than our fight against al Qaeda.

Americans across the political spectrum supported the use of force against those who attacked us on 9/11. Now, as we approach our 10th year of combat in Afghanistan, there are those who are understandably asking tough questions about our mission there. But we must never lose sight of what’s at stake. As we speak, al Qaeda continues to plot against us, and its leadership remains anchored in the border regions of Afghanistan and Pakistan. We will disrupt, dismantle and defeat al Qaeda, while preventing Afghanistan from again serving as a base for terrorists. And because of our drawdown in Iraq, we are now able to apply the resources necessary to go on offense. In fact, over the last 19 months, nearly a dozen al Qaeda leaders -- and hundreds of al Qaeda’s extremist allies -- have been killed or captured around the world.

Within Afghanistan, I’ve ordered the deployment of additional troops who -- under the command of General David Petraeus -- are fighting to break the Taliban’s momentum.
As with the surge in Iraq, these forces will be in place for a limited time to provide space for the Afghans to build their capacity and secure their own future. But, as was the case in Iraq, we can’t do for Afghans what they must ultimately do for themselves. That’s why we’re training Afghan Security Forces and supporting a political resolution to Afghanistan’s problems. And next August, we will begin a transition to Afghan responsibility. The pace of our troop reductions will be determined by conditions on the ground, and our support for Afghanistan will endure. But make no mistake: This transition will begin -- because open-ended war serves neither our interests nor the Afghan people’s.

Indeed, one of the lessons of our effort in Iraq is that American influence around the world is not a function of military force alone. We must use all elements of our power -- including our diplomacy, our economic strength, and the power of America’s example -- to secure our interests and stand by our allies. And we must project a vision of the future that’s based not just on our fears, but also on our hopes -- a vision that recognizes the real dangers that exist around the world,
but also the limitless possibilities of our time.

Today, old adversaries are at peace, and emerging democracies are potential partners. New markets for our goods stretch from Asia to the Americas. A new push for peace in the Middle East will begin here tomorrow. Billions of young people want to move beyond the shackles of poverty and conflict. As the leader of the free world, America will do more than just defeat on the battlefield those who offer hatred and destruction -- we will also lead among those who are willing to work together to expand freedom and opportunity for all people.

Now, that effort must begin within our own borders. Throughout our history, America has been willing to bear the burden of promoting liberty and human dignity overseas, understanding its links to our own liberty and security. But we have also understood that our nation’s strength and influence abroad must be firmly anchored in our prosperity at home. And the bedrock of that prosperity must be a growing middle class.

Unfortunately, over the last decade, we’ve not done what’s necessary to shore up the foundations of our own prosperity. We spent a trillion dollars at war, often financed by borrowing from overseas. This, in turn, has short-changed investments in our own people, and contributed to record deficits. For too long, we have put off tough decisions on everything from our manufacturing base to our energy policy to education reform. As a result, too many middle-class families find themselves working harder for less, while our nation’s long-term competitiveness is put at risk.

And so at this moment, as we wind down the war in Iraq, we must tackle those challenges at home with as much energy, and grit, and sense of common purpose as our men and women in uniform who have served abroad. They have met every test that they faced. Now, it’s our turn. Now, it’s our responsibility to honor them by coming together, all of us, and working to secure the dream that so many generations have fought for -- the dream that a better life awaits anyone who is willing to work for it and reach for it.

Our most urgent task is to restore our economy, and put the millions of Americans who have lost their jobs back to work. To strengthen our middle class, we must give all our children the education they deserve, and all our workers the skills that they need to compete in a global economy. We must jumpstart industries that create jobs, and end our dependence on foreign oil. We must unleash the innovation that allows new products to roll off our assembly lines, and nurture the ideas that spring from our entrepreneurs. This will be difficult. But in the days to come, it must be our central mission as a people, and my central responsibility as President.

Part of that responsibility is making sure that we honor our commitments to those who have served our country with such valor. As long as I am President, we will maintain the finest fighting force that the world has ever known, and we will do whatever it takes to serve our veterans as well as they have served us. This is a sacred trust. That’s why we’ve already made one of the largest increases in funding for veterans in decades. We’re treating the signature wounds of today’s wars -- post-traumatic stress disorder and traumatic brain injury -- while providing the health care and benefits that all of our veterans have earned. And we’re funding a Post-9/11 GI Bill that helps our veterans and their families pursue the dream of a college education. Just as the GI Bill helped those who fought World War II -- including my grandfather -- become the backbone of our middle class, so today’s servicemen and women must have the chance to apply their gifts to expand the American economy. Because part of ending a war responsibly is standing by those who have fought it.

Two weeks ago, America’s final combat brigade in Iraq -- the Army’s Fourth Stryker Brigade -- journeyed home in the pre-dawn darkness. Thousands of soldiers and hundreds of vehicles made the trip from Baghdad, the last of them passing into Kuwait in the early morning hours. Over seven years before, American troops and coalition partners had fought their way across similar highways, but this time no shots were fired. It was just a convoy of brave Americans, making their way home.

Of course, the soldiers left much behind. Some were teenagers when the war began. Many have served multiple tours of duty, far from families who bore a heroic burden of their own, enduring the absence of a husband’s embrace or a mother’s kiss. Most painfully, since the war began, 55 members of the Fourth Stryker Brigade made the ultimate sacrifice -- part of over 4,400 Americans who have given their lives in Iraq. As one staff sergeant said, “I know that to my brothers in arms who fought and died, this day would probably mean a lot.”

Those Americans gave their lives for the values that have lived in the hearts of our people for over two centuries. Along with nearly 1.5 million Americans who have served in Iraq, they fought in a faraway place for people they never knew. They stared into the darkest of human creations -- war -- and helped the Iraqi people seek the light of peace.

In an age without surrender ceremonies, we must earn victory through the success of our partners and the strength of our own nation. Every American who serves joins an unbroken line of heroes that stretches from Lexington to Gettysburg; from Iwo Jima to Inchon; from Khe Sanh to Kandahar -- Americans who have fought to see that the lives of our children are better than our own. Our troops are the steel in our ship of state. And though our nation may be travelling through rough waters, they give us confidence that our course is true, and that beyond the pre-dawn darkness, better days lie ahead.

Thank you. May God bless you. And may God bless the United States of America, and all who serve her.

END 8:19 P.M. EDT
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last_texas_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-01-10 11:14 PM
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31. And you notice that even w/ Obama going out of his way to be civil,
praising a man who deserved no praise, the wingnut right are attacking him for being disrespectful by not praising * for the "surge."

There is *no* winning with these creeps. They are always going to find something to attack Obama on, so there seems to be less and less of a point to Obama trying to "appease" the crazies in any way. It pisses off the left, and the right only see it as a weakness and demand more.
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Safetykitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-01-10 11:17 PM
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32. I am still slack jawed. I just don't get it. Why, just why did he even have to bring him up?
I just makes NO SENSE!
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zulchzulu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-01-10 11:22 PM
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33. Obama knew that he had to throw the corporate media puppets a bone
Edited on Wed Sep-01-10 11:27 PM by zulchzulu
Ferchrissakes, the media puppets were asking each other and appointed Teatard Experts if Obama was going to give Bush credit. The statement was brief at best and having Obama call Bush a liar at this particular time would have been foolish.

The quote says a lot:

As we do, I’m mindful that the Iraq war has been a contentious issue at home. Here, too, it’s time to turn the page. This afternoon, I spoke to former President George W. Bush. It’s well known that he and I disagreed about the war from its outset. Yet no one can doubt President Bush’s support for our troops, or his love of country and commitment to our security. As I’ve said, there were patriots who supported this war, and patriots who opposed it. And all of us are united in appreciation for our servicemen and women, and our hopes for Iraqis’ future.


Obama said he thought Bush supported the troops... and that both sides of the war were patriots. He didn't admire Bush in a way that some here want to think.

There was plenty more in the speech that also warned how careless it all was too.
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Bluenorthwest Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-10 09:47 AM
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38. Ferchissakes? Gee, is that the same Christ for who's sake
there can be no equal rights for some? Odd use of the name, considering. Obama says Christ is why he opposes equality, yet his ardent supporters treat the name as if it were an oath to be sworn, a knife to be flashed, a term of art to be displayed. The juxtaposition of the two uses of the word by the same faction is instructional about that faction. Enjoy. Your slip is showing, but enjoy.
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hulka38 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-01-10 11:34 PM
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35. They'll both be hacking up a private golf club near you before you know it.
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Safetykitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-01-10 11:52 PM
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36. Sadly, this is true.
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AngryOldDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-10 07:23 AM
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37. What would you have him say?
Can you think of one time when a current administration called out, in no uncertain terms, a recent, previous administration for its policies or actions? I think Bush is a patriot -- a clueless, dense, reckless, dangerous patriot, but a patriot nonetheless. He loves this nation as much as anyone. And I think Obama did criticize the Bush Administration with the shift in the speech going from Iraq to the problems here that went more or less unattended for seven years.

Obama has to follow some protocol. He can't just come out and call Bush for the idiot that he clearly is, but that should be pretty much self-evident to anyone who's been paying attention.
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