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potassiumnitrate Donating Member (102 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-01-10 06:23 PM
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He's going to do it. He's going to bring peace to the Middle East
He passed health care in a little over a year. He ended the Iraq war. He averted a Great Depression. This guy gets shit DONE. This guy is a winner. This guy is going to bring peace to the Middle East, once and for all.

I feel it. Obama is something else.

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lamp_shade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-01-10 06:26 PM
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1. First rec.
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BootinUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-01-10 06:31 PM
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2. I am very hopeful he will make some progress
on this intractable problem, so I kick and Rec your post.
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-01-10 06:31 PM
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3. 2nd rec :o)
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BootinUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-01-10 06:45 PM
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6. not uhh! you were 3rd.
;)
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-01-10 06:57 PM
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10. Drats....foiled again...by 3.77 seconds....LOL :o)
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safeinOhio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-01-10 06:38 PM
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4. I really hope he call pull it off.
If so, I can see a new face on Mt. Rushmore.
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-01-10 06:42 PM
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5. Right-wingers will hate that. They WANT war in the middle-east. n/t
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crim son Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-01-10 06:47 PM
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7. I very much doubt it but
I hope you are right... that would be akin to a miracle.
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Sky Masterson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-01-10 06:55 PM
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8. Sure would.
Hello , Gorgeous. ;)
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Booster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-01-10 06:55 PM
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9. After he brings peace to the Middle East, maybe he can work
on peace right here in the U.S.
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YvonneCa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-01-10 07:46 PM
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15. Peace on...
...DU ? :7
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Hekate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-10 03:39 AM
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40. Yeah!
That would be peachy. :thumbsup:
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YvonneCa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-10 01:49 PM
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74. Wouldn't it be great? Just a...
...'little' more unity would be really nice. :)
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-01-10 07:06 PM
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11. K&R. And judging by the statements a little while ago by Netanyahu, Abbas, Mubarak and Abdullah,
it sounds like it just might work this time.
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Parker CA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-01-10 07:10 PM
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12. K&R - That would be incredible.
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discopants Donating Member (457 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-01-10 07:16 PM
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13. The rightwing media will be counting on failure
and the reason for all the conflict in the Middle East will be blamed on him.

The GOP will certainly be rooting for failure.
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slay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-01-10 07:31 PM
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14. Welcome to DU! Now -Health care reform wasn't real reform,we still have thousands of troops in Iraq,
Edited on Wed Sep-01-10 07:36 PM by slay
he never even TRIED to fight for a public option hell he wouldn't even talk about it. He's just not a good leader. The shit he gets done is a technical win at best, with no substantial change. Also, he's covering up the major crime of the WAR of aggression and profit in Iraq. AND AND - he's ESCALATED another pointless war in Afghanistan while people here in the USA are losing their jobs, and their homes! I'm not sure if you believe what you wrote potassiumnitrate, or if you just wish it was true. But no, he doesn't "got it", he's never gonna get it, and he's losing what's left of his base - those he hasn't already lost. I wish what you said was true. It's not.

Lots of propaganda from GD:P today.
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-01-10 08:01 PM
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19. He's not magic, and it ain't perfect.......
but I tell you what.....
don't give him credit for anything positive,
and I'll call that propaganda.
Have a nice day.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-01-10 08:03 PM
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Smashcut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-10 01:59 PM
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75. Interesting. And how would you square that with the magical thinking expressed in the OP
Which you apparently agree with? ("Obama's gonna do it. I feeeeeel it!!!")

You're the ones who act like the guy's a Jedi master and then as soon as it's pointed out how much he's not doing, you trot out the "he's not a magician" strawman. Which is it?
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-10 04:48 PM
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79. It is called faith based politics
We see this disorder in people like Sharron Angle who is convinced GAWD wants her to be President. Of course, that would be the Scientology GAWD according to this:

http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2010/05/sharron-angle-attacked-for-alleged-scientology-ties.php
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PurityOfEssence Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-03-10 11:09 AM
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85. Yes: a personality cult amplified by insecure egos of those who have to shriek down any opposition
It's much more important for certain partisans to hammer down any dissenters and apply peer pressure than it is to actually stand for something. That's why many of us use the term "cult": not only is the blinkered adulation something that survives repeated jettisoning of liberal or progressive policies, it has the tempestuous fury of the insecure egos who dread more than anything the judgment of having been wrong, and hold their selfish need to be morally superior above all else, including the general welfare or even basic sense.

Meanwhile, the administration spends fruitless energy courting those who will never be swayed, while systematically haranguing the left and not even trying for progressive policies. Timidity is too nice and bland a term for this kind of ultramoderate favor-currying, and the self-aggrandizing enablers are enough to make one gag.
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phleshdef Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-01-10 08:13 PM
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22. The incoherant babbling such as this is becoming so tiresome.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-10 11:06 AM
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JoePhilly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-01-10 08:17 PM
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23. Got some cheese to go with that whine??
Across the board, Obama has done pretty much what he said he would do.

As for "technical change" ... my 12 year old niece, who had cancer at 2, and survived against a 90% death rate, and who could not be insured because of her pre-existing condition since ... NOW has AFFORDABLE full heath coverage. That's not a "technical change" it is REAL CHANGE.

Obama said he would increase troops in Afghanistan as a candidate, and he has ... yet you sound surprised that he did so. Were you not paying attention?

Obama said he'd be as careful getting out of Iraq as we were careless getting in. Which means no abrupt withdraw. He said his target was to remove all combat troops in 16 months. It will actually be 19 months. Yes, we will still have some troops there, just as Obama said as a candidate.

So, while one can bitch that Obama needed to remove all troops, what one can not do is claim that Obama has not done what he said he would do.

As for losing his base ... total BS ... your "base" does not jump off the band wagon when the team struggles. Your BASE fights for you, and with you, particularly when you struggle. The GOP base understands this.

So .. if you want to call yourself the base, then get on board and fight first and foremost against the GOP. If not, stop claiming that you are the base. Because you are not. You jumped on a band wagon expecting something different then what was actually promised, and now you want to jump off.
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Pirate Smile Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-01-10 08:55 PM
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25. You should post your own OP based on that. I'm so happy for your niece and her family.
Every Dem who voted for Health Insurance Reform needs to run an ad with someone like your niece. Then they can also say the Republicans want to repeal it/voted against it. If they personalize these stories, those will be very powerful ads - and honest, truthful ads.
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polmaven Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-10 06:32 AM
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48. Right on target!
Edited on Thu Sep-02-10 06:35 AM by polmaven
Great response. Thank you! I am CONSTANTLY astonished at the trollish behavior of so many alleged Democrats. This country will never elect someone as far to the left as that poster would apparently like.

And please know how happy MOST of DU is about your niece. That is a story to warm our hearts. What a great outcome for her!
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BlancheSplanchnik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-10 09:32 AM
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54. very well put, and I agree with PirateSmile, post 25!
I thought this should be an OP, then I saw Pirate's reply!
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niceypoo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-10 09:56 AM
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58. The base isnt leaving the party
The party is leaving the base
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-10 03:14 AM
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Number23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-10 05:02 AM
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44. I know I say this all of the time, but I really love you.
Don't worry, though. I'm happily married and live on the other side of the world now, but I just thought I'd let you know.

If it embarrasses you that I keep telling you this, I'll just use this smiley :loveya: whenever you post something that reminds me (and you) that I love you.
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Chulanowa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-10 06:31 AM
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47. Jeeze, gonna make me blush and get all awkward n/t
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Count Olaf Donating Member (256 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-10 11:13 AM
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62. so insulting people, bullying people and ganging up is the new way to discuss issues?
very forward thinking of you all here in GD Politics...
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slay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-10 12:48 PM
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68. It's the ONLY way they do things here in GD:P
n/t
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Hekate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-10 03:41 AM
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41. My God, man, get a grip on yourself!
:eyes:
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Number23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-10 05:03 AM
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45. He has to get a grip on reality first!
:rofl: :hug:
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slay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-10 12:49 PM
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69. So.. you ignore every FACT I stated, post no message,
and roll your eyes. You really added a lot to the conversation there buddy.
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ncteechur Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-03-10 10:17 PM
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89. I'm sorry you didn't get your pony. Maybe John Boehner can get you one.
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Turbineguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-01-10 07:50 PM
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16. That would be nice.
Even though the repubs would invent some new shortcoming to offset this.
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Hekate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-10 03:45 AM
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42. We expect no less from the odious Repubs and their captive media, which is why it's up to us Dems to
... counter their crap publicly and often.

Hekate
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TomClash Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-01-10 07:51 PM
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17. Double his pay
Just for having to meet the odious Netanyahu today.
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scheming daemons Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-01-10 07:59 PM
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18. Fox News, RW media, LW media, the Teabaggers, and the "professional left" will all find a way to
...spin Israeli/Palestinian peace as a negative thing.
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-01-10 08:01 PM
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20. Some might even try and muck it up. Our media's good at that......
so I'm sure they are coming up with the "angle"
on how to get that done as we type.
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Whisp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-10 01:02 AM
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33. Gergen on CNN was complaining today that instead of this peace deal
Edited on Thu Sep-02-10 01:03 AM by Whisp
Obama should be working on the job situation.

If this pans out it I don't have to say it will be a BFD, but some are just such downers - never satisfied with anything. Would be miserable to have to live with these assholes.
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Hekate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-10 03:20 PM
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77. Fortunately President Obama can multitask
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Hekate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-10 03:47 AM
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43. You're absolutely right, so keep the LTTEs and such coming from our side.
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Phx_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-10 11:17 AM
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66. Teabaggers and professional lefties are in the same camp,
for different reasons, but still the same camp.
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mkultra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-03-10 11:37 AM
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86. "Professional left"--the best definition i have heard yet.
+1 to you.
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Clio the Leo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-01-10 08:49 PM
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24. That would be awesome.....
... "bring" might not be the word I'd use so much as "help calm things down a bit."
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Jeff In Milwaukee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-01-10 09:32 PM
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26. Fox News will claim that Obama ruined the Mideast Mortuary Industry (nt)
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-01-10 10:03 PM
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28. If peace ever matters, there is an abiding
need for it now in the Middle East.

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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-01-10 10:05 PM
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-01-10 10:25 PM
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31. I'd favor peace over its absence if it can be
negotiated and arranged and sustained.

Call me old-fashioned.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-10 12:53 AM
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Hekate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-10 03:30 AM
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38. "You people"? Niiiice.
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Smashcut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-10 01:39 PM
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73. They have to keep the high going somehow.
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Karenina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-10 02:08 PM
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76. This is nothing more than political theater on steroids.
Abbas has NO MANDATE from the "country" he is representing. Bibi is just posturing and cloning. I expect the whole process to collapse over the "settlement" issue. "FACTS ON THE GROUND" as we called it in my teenage years, nearly a half century ago...
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impik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-10 01:18 AM
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34. I don't know if he will, but he's the only one who can. I never saw anyone so stubborn.
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LittleBlue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-10 01:29 AM
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35. I'll believe it when I see it.
So far, a lot of talk, we'll see if it results in anything substantive.
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agentS Donating Member (922 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-10 01:32 AM
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36. This may be harder than solving the economy
a lot of entrenched interests in that region, some with "tentacles" that reach very far.

If all players recognize that, it may be possible to strike a deal, instead of dropping everything because of 1 or 2 random bombings.
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Hekate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-10 03:36 AM
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39. Total agreement-- except for the Middle East "permanent peace" prospects, alas
Probably everyone would settle for two things: partition of Israel and Palestine, and a nice solid detente throughout the region for the foreseeable future.

Welcome to DU! It's so nice to see a newbie with a positive attitude!

Hekate
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polmaven Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-10 06:42 AM
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49. "your boy"????
Excuse me???? Are you sure you are in the right place?
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impik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-10 07:20 AM
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51. Then they'll say that there isn't racism on the left. Progressives my a**
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scheming daemons Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-10 07:32 AM
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52. "your boy"? (Your slip is showing)
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AngryOldDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-10 06:49 AM
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50. LOL.
The only president who could bring peace to the Mideast is Jed Bartlet.

This is the fourth president who has stepped in to that morass. He will have no better success than those who came before. But if he does pull it off, let me know so I can be there when walks across the Potomac.

I'm not saying he shouldn't try. But a little realism must factor into the discussion.
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Cowpunk Donating Member (572 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-10 09:24 AM
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53. I'd feel a little better about Obama having fixed health care...
...if Blue Cross hadn't just raised our rates another 30% this year. The small company I work for, which goes through a tedious yearly process of shopping the local health insurance market, has now switched to United. The rates are still much higher than last yesr, and our company, which is does its best to keep us insured, ate most of that increase, which means I'll probably have to go another year without a raise.

I've gotten two 50 cent raises in the last 5 years because of this shit, while gasoline and utility prices have doubled and food prices have also inflated sharply.

I realize that many people who couldn't get insurance will be helped by the bill, but the vast majority of American individuals and businesses will still have to deal with this out-of-control profit-sucking monster for many years to come. I see no hope at all for my situation to improve with the health care legislation they passed.

But I guess that just makes me an ungrateful, whiney leftist.
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BlancheSplanchnik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-10 09:48 AM
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56. I feel so torn sometimes....
I agree with you, and I also agree that the HR bill is already having positive effects.

But I also am aware that, like cleaning out a nasty oven, there's a lot of cruddy shit to grapple with before it's clean..... I just wish this oven weren't so sabotaged by the RightWingCONservativeCorporatistMediawhore junta every step of the way. Then again, that very reaction from them, in itself, measures the significance of the change. And then, I'm back to being upset at the suffering that is going on in people's lives. And then I'm back to knowing that there IS improvement happening, already helping people, and then sadness knowing that change in reality takes time to manifest consistently and broadly......

I look forward to the Consumer Commision, and hope that it would include the predatory insurance industry in its sights.
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no limit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-10 09:47 AM
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55. Can you please pass the blunt this way.
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niceypoo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-10 09:55 AM
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57. Obama will end the blocade of the Palestinian territories by Israel?
Doubtful
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Wednesdays Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-10 11:12 AM
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61. I see the glass half-full/half-empty at this point
I acknowledge the great reduction of troops in Iraq, and the scaling down of the occupation there. However, we still do have a presence in Iraq, there's still killing going on in Afghanistan, and there are numerous hot spots smoldering all over the region.

There's still a lot of work to do.
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Enrique Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-10 11:14 AM
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63. it's worth a try
:thumbsup:
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Phx_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-10 11:15 AM
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64. There's good reason to hope. He's been able to do what others haven't in other areas.
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Political Tiger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-10 11:16 AM
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65. K & R! n/t
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nostalgicaboutmyfutr Donating Member (991 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-10 11:57 AM
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67. Forget the abyss in the ME; Fix your own country first. EOM
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mkultra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-03-10 11:39 AM
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88. lol. because the conflict in the middle east has no impact on us at home.
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lumberjack_jeff Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-10 01:00 PM
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70. Yup. You can count on Benjamin Netanyahu to be a trustworthy peace broker.
:rofl:

Uh, I don't think so. It's pointless to broker peace talks to which that snakey fucker is a party.
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-10 05:03 PM
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81. Bibi already said he was keeping the whole of Jerusalem!
A recipe for permanent war!
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lumberjack_jeff Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-10 01:01 PM
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71. Jimmy Carter did it first.
Didn't do him much good here.
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lynne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-10 01:01 PM
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72. How about some peace at home and some JOBS, too??? eom
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bvar22 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-10 04:40 PM
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78. YAY!!!
Add this to the Obama Mission Accomplished list!
:patriot:
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Usrename Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-10 05:01 PM
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80. You forgot to add that he closed Gitmo on his first day.
:patriot:
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Exilednight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-03-10 06:50 AM
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84. you forgot your :sarcasm: tag. n/t
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mix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-10 06:34 PM
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82. u r silly
:rofl:
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-10 06:48 PM
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83. Things were much better under Bill Clinton.
Shit hit the fan basically the moment Bush took office, and it all stagnated for 8 years.

It should be no surprise that things will improve under Obama.
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flamingdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-03-10 11:38 AM
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87. K + R
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laurel46 Donating Member (96 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-03-10 11:07 PM
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90. He might use the military to force peace.
Samantha Powers was on tv talking about the palestinian genocide and that using military strength might be necessary. The UN and the allies have been preparing for some time now to go in and enforce the border agreement, it wouldn't work if Israel or Palestine were to try do this themselves so having a foreign police force is a problem. Neither state will want to give up its ability to fight and defend. If one looks at the white house advisors on foreign affairs, it is loaded with people who are inclined to stand up to Israel and force the issue, this is no secret if one looks at the people listed on whitehouse.gov and checks their prior views. Obama has 300 advisors, way more than Bush had so he is serious about forcing peace, as he should be.

This summer there were planned military exercises in the mediterranean which were then joined by many other countries and this seemed to be a surprise to many since the other countries had not been openly planned to participate. It looked like a show of force right after the flotilla incident. France, Germany, UK, Greece, Italy, portugal, spain and a few more, practiced on each others ships and planes, no one in our media mentioned this historic event. The european media and middle eastern media reported. The quartet has been involved as well as the arab union. Lots of military equipment has been sold to countries for missile defense that looks like it may be to strengthen defense world wide and make aggression from bully countries less likely, but I am not sure if that is why so many countries were armed. I was in Africa right after this happened and saw a lot of changes going on all ready, nation building and new constitutions. I do think peace will come, the question is why are the news and other media not covering this? Who is upset in the media and does not want to broadcast this show of strength by the USA and the rest of the world?

Obama has also been kicking some corporate butt with bribery and corruption charges, going after military contractors who defrauded the government as well as pharma. The DOJ has raked in billions in fines and none of this is reported, none of the corruption battles that the administration has won for the little guy. Obama is a great president and we are lucky to have him and I bet this is one reason the media has been so vicious.
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golfguru Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-03-10 11:25 PM
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91. Fantaaaaaastic! 2000 year old conflict between jews and arabs
cured by president Obama! Now that is really FANTASTIC.
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golfguru Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-03-10 11:25 PM
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Fantaaaaaastic! 2000 year old conflict between jews and arabs
cured by president Obama! Now that is really FANTASTIC.
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golfguru Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-03-10 11:25 PM
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92. Fantaaaaaastic! 2000 year old conflict between jews and arabs
cured by president Obama! Now that is really FANTASTIC.
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