New Poll: Blame Obama for Economic? NO

[nmbluesky]

George W. Bush still gets blamed for economic woes
Teabagger still love W. Bush forever. Teabagger really want to blame Obama for Economic problem...FAIL!!!
We know that W. Bush mess up America..
As Joe Miller, said, "Obama is bad for America" Teabaggers, "We want our country back" blah blah blah blah..

two years after Barack Obama was elected president, Americans still are inclined to blame his predecessor for the nation's current economic problems.
In a USA TODAY/Gallup Poll taken Friday through Sunday, more than a third of those surveyed said George W. Bush deserved a great deal of the blame for economic woes and a third said he should get a moderate amount of it. Not quite another third called that unfair, saying he warranted not much or none of the responsibility.
he 71% saying Bush should get blamed was a modest decline from the 80% who felt that way about a year ago, in July 2009.
What about President Obama?
n the July 2009 poll, a third, 32%, said he should shoulder a great deal or moderate amount of the blame. That percentage has risen -- no surprise, given that he's been in office for 20 months. Now almost half, 48%, do. But 51% say he's dealing with problems he inherited, not created, saying he deserves not much or none of the responsibility for economic problems that include high unemployment and a faltering housing market./div]
http://content.usatoday.com/communities/theoval/post/2010/09/poll-george-w-bush-obama-economy/1

[Nicholas D Wolfwood]

1. I've said it before and I'll say it again.

Blame doesn't matter to the American people.

They're going to look around them, ask "is the economy recovered or significantly recovering?" If their answer is "no", they're just going to keep shuffling the Congressional deck until the problem gets solved. That's really all there is to it.

Is that a smart way to solve the problem? Hell no! But no one ever accused the masses of being smart.

[maxsolomon]

3. but congress can't do much to 'recover' an economy based on unsustainable growth

we don't need overvalued houses made of ticky-tack being thrown up willy-nilly in car-dependent exurbs, and we don't need a war machine 10X larger than that of the rest of the planet's.

and we have no idea what to do instead of these 2 oil-based enterprises without a future. raise chickens in our backyards? sell scrap metal?

[Nicholas D Wolfwood]

4. I didn't say it was rational.

But that's what it is. People are just going to keep shuffling until things get better. Frankly, I think there isn't a whole lot anyone can do other than ride it out - maybe another stimulus would help, but Republicans certainly aren't going to give that to the people.

[WI_DEM]

8. True, they want results

[mikekohr]

10. Here Are The Economic Results Since 1929, it's pretty one sided

Democratic Economic Accomplishment Over the last 70 Years, three graphs every American should see
cached at: http://journals.democraticunderground.com/...

Monthly Job Creation Graph By President and Party

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_mHSyEv8vBt4/S6Zvl-nui8I/AAAAAAAAACQ/3j0wUSj78mk/s640/Job+growth+graph.jpg?

Many Americans are aware that George W. Bush has had the worst job creation record since the government began tracking these figures in 1939. But Bush's colossal failure to manage the economy overshadows a much larger story.


The record shows two unmistakable patterns:
Every time a Republican succeeds a Democrat in the White House, the job creation rate plummets.
Every time a Democrat succeeds a Republican in the White House, the job growth rate soars. Every time! No exceptions!


Over the last seventy years, the decrease in monthly job creation when a Republican succeeds a Democrat is 68,913

Considering the steady growth in population of the United States during this time frame the job creation rate should steadily increase each month (currently it must grow by 138,000 per month to keep up with population growth). This trend only manifests itself when examining Democratic administrations:

Listed below is the average job growth increase for all terms served:

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_mHSyEv8vBt4/S6Z6xo0qSnI/AAAAAAAAACY/p8SkoEnN5dw/s640/job+creation+by+president.jpg?



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jobs_created_ ...

http://blogs.wsj.com/economics/2009/01/09 /... /

By: mike kohr Graphics by: Bonny Kohr
Bureau County/Depue Democrats
http://bureaucountydems.blogspot.com/2010 /...

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-Why Does Republican Economic Policy ALWAYS Expand the National Debt?-
The answer is simple mathematics: "INCREASED SPENDING + decreased revenue ='s increased yearly deficits.



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click on this link to view expanded view of above graph:
http://cedarcomm.com/~stevelm1/usdebt.htm



The two biggest promises of "Trickle Down Economics" are it's greatest failings. Proponents of "Trickle Down Economics” claim that tax cuts, skewed to the rich, will create jobs and increase tax revenues. The graph above disproves the latter claim.

Job creation plummets under "Trickle Down Economics see http://bureaucountydems.blogspot.com/p/job ...

And nine of the last ten recessions have occurred under Republican leadership see http://bureaucountydems.blogspot.com/p/his ...

Two things are certain to grow when a Republican is in the White House, unemployment and the National Debt.

By contrast, "Bubble Up" economnic priciples practiced by Democratic Administrations put people to work, rev up the economy, and balance the Nation's ledger books. Every time. No exceptions.


mike kohr
Bureau County Democrats

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THE LAST 3 REPUBLICAN PRESIDENTS HAVE ACCOUNTED FOR NEARLY 100% OF OUR INCREASE IN THE DEBT SINCE 1981


Every President, from Truman to Nixon, steadily paid down the staggering debt that was run up in our fight against Nazi Germany and Imperial Japan. That pattern came to a screeching halt with Reagan/Bush and Bush. Clinton’s fiscal policy was a brief respite during this orgy of deficit spending.

Clinton balanced 5 budgets, which is 5 times as many balanced budgets as the last 5 Republican presidents combined.


President Obama, like President Clinton, inherited a sea of red ink and a recession from his predecessor. He, like President Clinton, recognizes the importance of getting America back to work and then getting our fiscal house in order.


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See National Debt Graph @: http://zfacts.com/p/318.html

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“THE PARTY WITH THE BEST RECORD OF SERVING REPUBLICAN ECONOMIC VALUES IS THE DEMOCRATS, AND IT ISN’T EVEN CLOSE!” -Michael Kingsley-


1). FEDERAL SPENDING: since 1960 Republicans increased Federal Spending by 71% more than have Democrats

2). FEDERAL DEBT: since 1960 Republicans have increased the National debt by 100% more per year than have Democrats.

3). GROSS DOMESTIC PRODUCT: since 1921, adjusted for inflation, Democrats out-produce Republicans by 43% . Starting in 1940 the Democratic advantage is 23% better.

4). REAL PER CAPITA INCOME: since 1960 Democrats have outperformed Republicans by 30%. (This is perhaps the most important economic statistic of all)

5). INFLATION: since 1960, Democrats outperform Republicans 3.13% to 3.89%

6). UNEMPLOYMENT: since 1960 it decreases in an average Democratic year by 0.3% to 5.33%, and increases in average Republican year by 1.1% to 6.38%.

7). JOB CREATION: from 1945 to 2003, Democrats produced 174,200 jobs per month, Republicans have only produced 60,600 per month. Every time a Democrat succeeds a Republican, job creation soars. Every time a Republican succeeds a Democrat job creation plummets. NO EXCEPTIONS!

8). DOW JONES AVERAGE: since 1921 the DOW has increased by 52% more under Democratic administrations

9). THE BOND MARKET: since 1940 the value of 10 year Treasury bonds rose 1.2% under Democrats and fell 0.5% under Republicans


SOURCES-Bureau of Labor Statistics, Economic Policy Institute, Christian Science Monitor, “The Los Angles Times -Michael Kingsley-

by mike kohr 3/7/2006

RESULTS MATTER, VOTE DEMOCRATIC!

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A HISTORY OF RECESSION IN THE UNITED STATES 1950 TO 2008
Written by: mike kohr 2/12/2008

Criminologists look for patterns to solve and prevent crimes. And in the comparison of the economic records of Democrat and Republican administrations there is a glaring pattern all but ignored by the corporate media. Nine of the last ten recessions have occurred under the direction of Republican economic policy. And proving that history does repeat itself, examine the three greatest slowdowns in US economic history, 1929*, 1982, 2007, all three were attributed to poor economic and tight credit policy, all three featured deregulation and lack of oversight of the financial markets, and all three were presided over by a Republican President.

Recession of 2007-present George W. Bush(R) Greatest downturn since 1929, blamed on lack of regulation of financial markets and collapse of credit markets

Recession of 2001 George W. Bush(R) Began in April of 2001, marked the beginning of greatest deficit spending in all of recorded human history

Recession of 1990-1991 George H.W. Bush(R) Deregulation of Savings and Loan industry led to a collapse and panic, which led to election of Bill Clinton, who produced the greatest increase in jobs and wealth in all of recorded human history

Recession of 1981-1982 Ronald Reagan(R) At the time, the most severe contraction of economy since the Great Depression, massive deficit spending/deregulation of markets, and tight fiscal policy in an effort to kill inflation were blamed for this downturn **

Recession of 1980 2nd & 3rd quarters Jimmy Carter (D) Shortest and least severe slow down, generally attributed to Iranian Revolution and increase in oil prices, led to the election of Ronald Reagan

Recession of 1973-1975 Richard M Nixon(R) OPEC’s increase in oil prices and massive spending in the escalation of war in Vietnam led to stagflation, the second economic crash of Nixon’s administration

Recession of 1969-1970 Richard M. Nixon(R) Credited to Nixon’s escalation of and massive spending in Vietnam War and OPEC’s increase in price of oil

Recession of 1960 -1961 Dwight D. Eisenhower(R) Noted for high unemployment, low GDP, high inflation JFK ended the recession by stimulating the economy 10 days after taking office

Recession of 1957-1958 Dwight D. Eisenhower(R) Eisenhower achieved the dubious distinction of achieving a second economic downturn on his watch, a record later matched by Richard M. Nixon, and George W. Bush

Recession of 1953 Dwight D. Eisenhower(R) Increased outlays to National defense and restrictive credit policies blamed for this downturn.

There are few things that are certain in life but this economic record of the last 58 years provides one. When a Republican is elected to the White House, there is a 100% chance that the economy will slide into a recession and a 50% chance that two or more recessions will occur.

With an unbroken record of fubar, failure and foul up one would expect Republicans to have a (FU) after their names instead of a (R). A (no) would be more appropriate. Not a single Republican member of Congress voted for President Obama’s 2009 Economic Stimulus plan. The “Know Nothing” Republican Party has a long history of saying no. They said no to the creation of the Social Security System, and the creation of Medicare, the two most successful poverty reduction programs in US history. That’s not all they said no to.

Bill Clinton’s economic stimulus plan of 1993 produced the greatest wealth and job creation in all of recorded human history. Clinton’s economic plan reduced the National Debt by $587 billion, and balanced 5 budgets, exactly 5 times as many balanced budgets as produced by the last five Republican presidents -combined-.
Not a single Republican House member voted for it.

Here’s what they had to say about Clinton’s Stimulus plan of 1993:
From the Files by David Waldman
(Congress Matters, February 15, 2009)

Rep. Dick Armey (R-TX), CNN, 8/2/93:
“Clearly this is a job killer in the short run…The deficit will be worse,...”

Rep. Newt Gingrich (R-GA), GOP Press Conference, House TV Gallery, 8/5/93:
“I believe this will lead to a recession next year.”

Rep. Deborah Pryce (R-OH), 5/27/93:
“(This) will lead to more taxes, higher inflation, and slower economic growth.”

Rep. Jim Bunning (R-KY), 8/5/93:
"It will not create jobs."

This from the same know nothing crowd that gave us 9 of the last 10 recessions.

There has been a crime of economic ineptitude perpetrated on the American people. No one seems to see the pattern nor is anyone confronting the stumblebums responsible for it. And they are so easy to spot. They are the one’s saying no.


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*The Great Depression of 1929 Herbert Hoover(R) Lasted for 10 years, blamed on Hoover’s economic policy and lack of regulation of financial markets
** “The Reagan Recession” which ran from the 4th quarter of 1981 thru the 1st quarter of 1982 is often categorized as starting under Carter’s watch during the 2nd & 3rd quarters of 1980. By the end of the 3rd quarter of 1980 that brief recession had rebounded. Starting in the 4th quarter of 1980, 3 of the next 4 quarters produced increased GDP. Reagan’s tight fiscal policy and massive deficit spending contracted the economy again in late 1981, producing unemployment of 10.8% and prime interest rates that hovered between 15% and 20.5%

http://recession.org/history
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_reces ...
http://www.sjsu.edu/faculty/watkins/rec198 ...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economic_hist ...

[obxhead]

2. I blame Obama for focusing on a commission for SS over a

serious push for a meaningful jobs bill.

It was deregulation from Obama's predecessors that brought our economy to it's knees.

[Nicholas D Wolfwood]

5. Obama isn't focusing on that. That's why he has a commission.

A commission, which by the way, has zero power whatsoever.

[obxhead]

9. ok, but he's sure as hell not focusing on a serious meaningful

jobs program either.

[HughMoran]

11. Seriously?

People really believe a "jobs" bill is the answer to all our woes? :eyes:

[Recursion]

6. What makes you say teabaggers love George W. Bush?

The conservatives in the country were pretty disgusted with him by the time he left office, especially after TARP, but it had been building for a while as he totally failed to deliver on the conservative agenda they were promised.

[starroute]

7. Why do they always slant these stories?

Obama was not elected two years ago but just under 22 months ago.

He has not been president for 20 months but for 19 months and 13 days.

Yeah, it's only small differences. But by rounding up the figures in this way they subtly convey an "Obama should have done more by now" message.

I wouldn't say anything if this kind of slanting weren't the norm -- but it is.