Rahm's Replacement

[babylonsister]

So Rahm might be out; let the complaining about Jarrett begin! :popcorn:

http://politicalwire.com/archives/2010/09/07/rahms_replacement.html

Rahm's Replacement

As speculation grows that White House chief of staff Rahm Emanuel will soon depart to run for Chicago mayor, Ben Smith reports Emanuel has told Chicago associates he believes senior Obama adviser Valerie Jarrett will likely succeed him.

PS This is coming from politico, so take it w/a grain...

[Bitwit1234]

1. Right now he needs the BEST HE CAN GET

If she is the best ok. If she isn't he needs to look around. HOWARD DEAN WOULD BE WONDERFUL, but I think Obama is jealous of him, he got the real Democrats elected in 2006 that's why they put wishy washy piss ant KIaine in.

[NYCGirl]

14. Obama is jealous of Howard Dean?

Lest you forget, Barack Obama is the PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES. Howard Dean is a former governor.

[impik]

32. Yea, that must be the most ridiculous comment i've ever

read here, and the competition is tough, you know....

Obama is jealous of Howard Dean.

Hilarious.

[phleshdef]

51. Love Dr. Dean. But that was some serious projecting right there, LOL.

The more likely scenario is that certain Dean supporters are jealous of Barack Obama because he got to be President and Dean never will.

[AspenRose]

17. Actually I think it's Rahm who doesn't like Dean

[kjackson227]

18. Wow! And, what have you been smoking in your pipe?

[saltpoint]

45. I'm not buying the notion that this president is

jealous of Howard Dean.

[Radical Activist]

2. I do take politico with a grain of salt.

I've only heard good things about Valerie Jerrett. People should keep in mind that Rahm isn't a shoe-in for Mayor even if does decide to run.

[polmaven]

43. No, he isn't, but

there is no way he could possibly run for Governor and stay in his job as the White House Chief of Staff. If he decides to run, he will have to resign.

[DURHAM D]

3. Valerie Jarrett is not ready for this job.

Wasn't it Valerie who sent Obama off to lobby for the Olympic bid?

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

4. And that was bad because?

[Ken Burch]

26. Well, because it set up Obama to look like a loser

Chicago was already almost certain NOT to get the games, and because Obama went off to make the pitch himself, the right was able to blame HIM for something that wasn't going to happen anyway.

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

34. It's bad because of monday morning quarterbacking?

Huh.

[Ken Burch]

35. It's bad because it gave the right something to use that they otherwise wouldn't have had

The White House already KNEW there was no chance Chicago would get the games before the prez went to make the pitch. They never give the game twice to the same country in that short of a period of time.

You don't send the president out to join a fight that's already lost. He can only look bad in the effort.

That's what I'm saying.

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

36. If they'd known there was no chance, they wouldn't have done it.

That's just you, and your 20/20 hindsight.

Of course, if they hadn't done it, you and the GOP wouldn't be complaining that they hadn't.

[Ken Burch]

37. Of course they knew.

The IOC has NEVER given the games to the same country without at least a twelve-to-sixteen year gap in between.

There's no reason for you to be defending the decision to send Obama in what the staff knew was a hopeless case.

And if it was his idea, they should have talked him down from it...that's what political staff are supposed to do in situations

like that.

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

39. That stupid Obama WH.

Don't they know that 2016 and 1996 are less then twel... uh... sixtee... uh...

Nevermind.

[Ken Burch]

40. You're forgetting the Winter Games in Salt Lake CIty in 2002

Plus, it was going to be a deal breaker that another Olympics had been held thirty miles from the U.S. border in 2008.

It was certain, therefore, that the 2016 games would be as far from the U.S. as possible.

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

41. Oh, right, because 2016-2002 is less than or equal to twelve.

And Canada is practically an American territory.

:crazy:

[Ken Burch]

42. No, not "practically an American territory"

but close enough that half the people going to the games would be Yanks.

They take proximity into consideration with these things.

[babylonsister]

38. Exactly! I think they had to try, and don't think there should be

any shame associated with trying.

[Whisp]

12. and here we go............

:rofl:

[SoxFan]

21. OFFS

[TBF]

5. Not enough experience - and rather than reward a local supporter

he should be concerned about pulling together the democratic party. IMO she is not up to that job. Howard Dean would be a far better replacement.

[babylonsister]

7. Why would Howard Dean be selected? The President gets

to pick someone he likes and trusts for this sensitive position; Dean doesn't have a position in this admin, nevermind a sensitive one.

I know he's a fan fave here and I like him usually, but that doesn't make sense.

[TBF]

9. Just thinking of someone who is strong nationally and

can pull the party together.

[babylonsister]

10. Sounds good, but that's not the job of the chief of staff...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_House_Chief_of_Staff

The roles of the Chief of Staff are both managerial and advisory and can include the following

* Select key White House staff and supervise them
* Structure the White House staff system
* Control the flow of people into the Oval Office
* Manage the flow of information
* Protect the interests of the President
* Negotiate with Congress, other members of the executive branch, and extragovernmental political groups to implement the President's agenda

[TBF]

11. Negotiate with Congress, other members of the executive branch, and extragovernmental political gro

I guess what I said would fall under "extragovernmental political groups to implement the President's agenda".

Do they have to promote from someone already there? They need Axelrod to manage the campaign for 2012. Why not pick some other prominent liberal?

[babylonsister]

13. I think the Prez can pick whomever he wants, but this is

supposed to be one of his most trusted confidants. Jarrett fills that bill.

[Exilednight]

20. One of things the Chief of Staff does is cordinates the message the White House is sending .........

to both elected politicians and the public at large. One could argue that that job falls to the White House Communications Staff, but the communications staff really doesn't work for the President, they work for the Chief of Staff - hence the title. In other words, the president might pick the topic, but the chief of staff sets the tone.

This is why Dean would be a good choice for this job. Rahm is too much into making everything sound good. He probably went ape shit when he heard that the president was going to give a speech that bashed repugs. I honestly believe that Rahm is the main reason we have seen a much more subdued Obama after the election versus the Obama of the primaries.

But make no mistake about it, the next chief of staff is going to tell us a lot about the tone and message that this administration is going to send.

[DJ13]

6. I dont know Jarrett, but I think Obama needs a strong liberal in that position

A well known liberal, someone who wont take crap from the timid centerists, or from the right.

[Whisp]

8. I take it with a grain the size of an asteroid.

we shall see.

I secretly hope Jarret swears even more than Rahm.

[terrya]

15. I'll move if Rahm Emmanuel becomes the next mayor of Chicago.

That probably will be my final impetus to move to Canada.

[babylonsister]

16. Wow, not a fan. Was Daley that good? And what are the odds

Rahm would win? Is he very popular?

[terrya]

19. Rahm Emmanuel does have tremendous name recognition

That's for sure.

And I don't think he would have any problems raising money for a mayoralty bid. I think he could very well win.

I just don't like him. I don't think he's all that unpopular here, overall.

I have mixed feelings about Daley. He never aspired to higher office. He did focus on the city. However, being in power for 20 years, his years engendered a certain amount of cronyism and corruption.

[Exilednight]

22. I grew up in Chicago, and I remember when Daley's father was mayor, and there are two .............

things you can always count on a Daley being. The first is crooked, and the second is committed to improving the city of Chicago for all people.

The problem with Chicago politics is city council. With 50 aldermen, things can move pretty slow.

With a Daley, you take the good with the bad.

My favorite mayor of all time was Harold Washington. Even his critics loved him.

[frazzled]

48. You've got things a bit backwards

The problem is not that the 50 aldermen move too slowly. Au contraire, for 20 years now, they pretty much do what Daley tells them to, pronto. Remember they recently approved the sale of Midway airport overnight (thank god that fell through) and the sale of the parking meters to a private company before anyone even had a chance to complain. Sorry, the aldermen were 90% in Daley's pocket.

[babylonsister]

23. Thanks for your insight; cronyism and

corruption, in Chicago? :wow: I kid!

[terrya]

Shocking, isn't it?

:-)

Oh, well, no matter who's mayor, it will always be one toddlin' town....

[Ken Burch]

30. Disgustingly, Rahm and Axelrod helped put Richie in the mayor's chair

and, in so doing, killed everything Harold Washington stood for.

There was a chance, once, that Chicago could have a progressive future. That died when Richie was sworn in.

Thanks to them, Chicago's just going to have arrogant anti-activist white mayors from here on in.

[Phx_Dem]

24. Good. You should start packing.

[Ken Burch]

25. I don't know that much about Jarrett.

But clearly, we need someone who's as progressive and inclusive as Rahm was conservative, cynical, and dismissive.
Our current situation in the polls PROVES that giving progressives the finger doesn't HELP this party.

It's the RIGHT WING the chief of staff is supposed to be tough with. Not the people who ELECTED the administration.

[babylonsister]

27. Not really. "The roles of the Chief of Staff"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_House_Chief_of_Staff

snip//

The roles of the Chief of Staff are both managerial and advisory and can include the following

* Select key White House staff and supervise them
* Structure the White House staff system
* Control the flow of people into the Oval Office
* Manage the flow of information
* Protect the interests of the President
* Negotiate with Congress, other members of the executive branch, and extragovernmental political groups to implement the President's agenda

[Ken Burch]

28. I'm familiar with the roles. And I'm familiar with what Rahm did with them

He used those "roles" to keep progressives out in the cold and away from the president when he MOST needed to hear what they had to say.

And Rahm's negotiations with Congress gave us empty husks of the bills that mattered.

Finally, in ALWAYS pushing for the conservative("centrist")choice over the progressive one, Rahm failed spectacularly to protect the president's interests, since his interests in off-year elections hinge on the enthusiasm of the base and Rahm was obsessed with kicking that base in the teeth, again and again.

There's no reason the son of a woman who marched for civil rights should have ended up operating like this guy did.

Our only chance to win this fall is to have an explosion of passion on our side. Can you point to anything Rahm's done that could possibly give us that?

[babylonsister]

And a lot of the info you have on what Rahm did was secondhand,

so who even knows how accurate it is/was? As for what Rahm has done, I'm not privy to what his actual role was, and this thread is about his replacement.

Admittedly, it's all speculation, as is so much we hear/read. She's a confidante, so this wouldn't surprise me.

[Ken Burch]

31. As I said, I don't know that much about Jarrett, so I'm withholding judgment on her.

But is there a reason we couldn't have someone with Jim Hightower's values in that job?

And as for Rahm...well, of course what I have is what's been reported.

Are you saying that I should doubt all of it if Rahm himself didn't tell me over a beer?

But the reporting has been consistent. Why do you feel ANY loyalty to the guy? It's not like he's ever fought for the people in his job. Why did we need someone who treats progressives worse than conservatives in that job?

The White House staff is only supposed to be hard-assed towards Republicans. Not the people who ELECTED the adminstration.

[Ken Burch]

33. I hope Jarrett or whoever else gets the job is different, then.

That's the only kind of appointment that can be worth it.

[IndianaGreen]

29. Leon Panetta

Bill brought him on board when he was in trouble.

[saltpoint]

44. If this comes to pass, Valerie Jarrett is a terrific

choice for that job.

She has the president's confidence and trust, and it looks to me like they're well-deserved.

Recommended.

[Number23]

46. I agree. I really like what I've seen of her so far

[AtomicKitten]

47. Rumor has it Tom Daschle may be a contender. nt

[TBF]

49. He had the tax issue,

but other than that he's a strong contender. He's been around awhile and performed well during Clinton's term.

[PopSixSquish]

50. The Timing Doesn't Work in Rahm's Favor

Though the residency rule has never been challenged, a candidate has to have lived in the city for the past year and be a registered voter. I don't know that having a home there but living somewhere else qualifies.

If he did file, November 22nd is the deadline, expect an immediate court challenge to his standing and a hell of a lot noise...