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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-10-10 11:24 AM
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VERY strong answer on the "mosque" question from Faux
Edited on Fri Sep-10-10 11:29 AM by jenmito
He was asked about the wisdom oi building the "mosque" near Ground Zero. He gave a pretty long answer about how Muslims have as much a right to build on the site what THEY want as Jews or Christians have. There are Muslims fighting with OUR uniforms on, so why shouldn't THEY have the same rights as others have to practice THEIR religions?

He also said that the VAST majority of Muslims are peace-loving people who just want to live their lives like everyone else-they go to school with us, work with us, and just want to succeed. "There is no 'them and us,' there's just 'us.'"
He said more, but it was a very strong defense.
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prolesunited Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-10-10 11:28 AM
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1. Figures that was the question from Fox
With all the problems in the world, whose life does that really impact except those who live in that community.
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Skip_In_Boulder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-10-10 12:20 PM
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15. It clearly impacts the on-air talent at Fox
As without these kinds of issues they would have no show to promote.
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impik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-10-10 11:32 AM
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2. Yea, that was from the deep belly
Made me extremely proud.
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-10-10 11:34 AM
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3. It was as strong a defense of (or stronger than) the statement he made at the Iftar dinner.
I LOVED it.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-10-10 07:25 PM
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28. It was very eloquent and articulated the
way I felt about it..virtuouso!
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flamingdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-10-10 11:35 AM
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4. That resonated strongly nt
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-10-10 11:38 AM
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5. Why would someone unrec this? nt
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impik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-10-10 11:48 AM
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6. Oh, come on. You've been here long enough
You can't post something positive about Obama and not have it unrec.
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-10-10 12:10 PM
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12. True. n/t
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Chulanowa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-10-10 02:07 PM
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26. Also can't have any positive things said about Muslims on DU n/t
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-10-10 01:39 PM
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24. Cause they're
bitter?x(
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-10-10 01:55 PM
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25. That's the only reason I can think of...
besides the fact that I never mentioned that I was talking about OBAMA. :blush:
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-10-10 11:53 AM
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7. Too bad there wasn't a Der Spiegel reporter there to say to Obama...
that their magazine had exposed Terry Jones as the leader of a cult while he was in Germany.

A follow up question to Obama would go like this: Mister President, what do you think of the American press when they provide a soap box to a known cult leader described by German officials as having a delusional personality?

US fundamentalist pastor Terry Jones, who wants to burn copies of the Koran on Sept. 11, ran a church in the western German city of Cologne until last year when members of the congregation expelled him. Former members have spoken of his hate-filled sermons and insistence on "blind obedience."

Islamophobe's Past in Germany

Terry Jones Accused of 'Spiritual Abuse' at Cologne Church

By Yassin Musharbash and Dominik Peters

'Delusional Personality'


Former church members are still undergoing therapy as a result of "spiritual abuse," Schäfer said. According to Schäfer, Jones urged church members to beat their children with a rod and also taught "a distinctive demonology" and conducted brainwashing.

"Terry Jones appears to have a delusional personality," speculates Schäfer. When he came to Germany in the 1980s, Jones apparently considered Cologne "a city of Hell that was founded by Nero's mother," while he thought Germany was "a key country for the supposed Christian revival of Europe," Schäfer says.

Terry Jones used his powers of persuasion to expand the congregation. By the end, Schäfer estimates, it numbered between 800 and 1,000 people. They had to work in the so-called "Lisa Jones Houses," charitable institutions named after his first wife who has since died, under very poor conditions.

Increasingly Radical

Jones became increasingly radical as the years went by, former associates say. At one point he wanted to help a homosexual member to "pray away his sins." Later he began to increasingly target Islam in his sermons. A congregation member reported that some members were afraid to attend services because they expected to be attacked by Muslims. "Terry Jones has a talent for finding topical social issues and seizing on them for his own cause," says Schäfer.

Read more:

http://www.spiegel.de/international/world/0,1518,716409,00.html
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BeyondGeography Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-10-10 11:55 AM
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8. But why does he care more about Muslin rights than teh economy????
:sarcasm:
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Pirate Smile Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-10-10 11:59 AM
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9. I heard that crap on both CNN & MSNBC - "his answer defending Muslims was more passionate
then his answers about jobs". Gaahhhh!!!

Defending First Amendment Freedoms are likely to do that. :banghead:

"There's no 'them' and 'us'. It's just 'us'".
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BeyondGeography Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-10-10 12:01 PM
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10. Yeah, me too...trivializers par excellence
:banghead: :banghead::banghead::banghead::banghead:
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-10-10 12:17 PM
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14. I think they actually LIKED his passion in his answer, but it's true that the way they
framed it was that he seemed to "come alive" on that subject when he should've been that passionate on the economic questions. There were a few pundits who defended him by saying that he's had to repeat the answers on the economy over and over and he's not SUPPOSED to be "entertaining" (as David Gergen implied he should've been).
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Inuca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-10-10 12:03 PM
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11. It's just us
says it all. Beautifully put.
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rasputin1952 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-11-10 07:38 AM
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33. Doesnb't it though...
One of those classic moments when it comes together, the situation, the question and the answer...He did an excellent job...I'm so proud we have an articulate individual in the WH...:)
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jberryhill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-10-10 12:16 PM
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13. Just guessing here

Is "He" in your post President Obama?

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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-10-10 01:36 PM
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23. My mistake.
Yes.
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-10-10 12:30 PM
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16. Chuck Todd: "I would say he was most passionate, frankly, at the end, when he made a case
for the right for religious freedom and for the rights of Muslim-Americans to have the same rights as everybody else in this country. The passion he showed there was probably greater than he answered on any other question. And frankly, it's interesting. He mixed it-it was sort of passionate and it was mixed in with patriotism in a way that, I think, even some of his critics on this issue will say it was a very eloquent answer, to say the least."
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impik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-10-10 01:00 PM
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17. That's the man i voted for and why i love him so much
Pure values.

Do you a link to that Todd' quote?
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-10-10 01:05 PM
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18. Same here...
No. I quoted him by pausing my tv and copying what he said.
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impik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-10-10 01:20 PM
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19. Oh, cool. Thanks.
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-10-10 01:34 PM
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22. No problemo! n/t
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rasputin1952 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-11-10 07:40 AM
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34. Coming from Todd, that's quite the compliment...
:D
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mimitabby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-10-10 01:30 PM
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20. He?
I might have unrec'd it (but i did not) because I didn't know who HE was, the post is unclear...
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-10-10 01:33 PM
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21. Oops. I was watching Obama's Q&A and forgot to mention his name.
I forgot to name him.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-10-10 07:23 PM
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27. "It's just us." I loved his answer
on the Mosque..it was perfect.
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-10-10 07:47 PM
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29. It brought back the feeling I had watching him give his speech at the Dem. Convention in '04...
Edited on Fri Sep-10-10 07:49 PM by jenmito
but this was unscripted-and a reply to a question from a FAUX reporter! PERFECT!
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Tarheel_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-10-10 08:24 PM
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30. I was blown away by that response, and apparently a lot of other folk were as well. (nt)
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TheKentuckian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-11-10 12:09 AM
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31. He gave the correct answer as far as I'm concerned.
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eridani Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-11-10 03:21 AM
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32. I thought so as well
I hope it defuses this totally ridiculous issue.
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Douglas Carpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-11-10 09:35 AM
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35. kick and recommend!! that was truly fantastic!!!
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