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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-10-10 06:02 PM
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Imagine Rodney Glassman beating John McCain

AZ-Sen: This is (not) good news for John McCain (w/minor update)

by Eclectablog

Last month, our good friend...Nate Silver gave Rodney Glassman only a 1.5% chance of beating...Senator McCain. But that was before the latest Rasmussen poll came out.

A new Rasmussen Reports telephone survey of Likely Voters in the state finds McCain earning 51% of the vote to Democrat Rodney Glassman's 37%, his best showing to date. Seven percent (7%) prefer some other candidate, while six percent (6%) are undecided.

That 14% gap along with Nate's gloomy prediction may seem daunting. But, before you get too far down that path, follow me over the jump for some reasons for hopefulness.

First, let's just get this out of the way: this is Rasmussen polling we're talking about. I don't know what percent you take away from the GOPosaur and give to the Democrat in a Rassy poll but that's got to get us close to single digits, does it not?

Second, have a look at this from Electoral-vote.com:



Hmmm...inneresting trend lines you have there, Grandpa. I mean, heck, that's an 8-point jump in just two weeks since the primary…hmmm…In fact, if we extrapolate those out a few weeks…hmmm…



I realize that it's a leap for me to draw those dotted lines. But, the fact is, Glassman is surging more than anybody predicted.

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Yeah, it's a leap, but it's a fun one.




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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-10-10 06:14 PM
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1. Boy that would really piss off that old geezer..
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Bobbieo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-10-10 06:18 PM
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2. Unfortumately, Glassman does not have a chance in Yuma County.
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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-10-10 06:19 PM
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3. Interesting - and nice that he got a jump
However, making the projection just by extending the last line segment really is not that sensible. It is true that he trending up and McCain down, but the slope would be less steep in both cases. This puts way too much influence on the last point that may be a real outlier.
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-10-10 06:43 PM
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5. I know.
If the numbers were a bit closer, even 43 to 49, there would be hope.

I keep hoping for a repeat of Hagan or McCaskill in one of these races.




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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-11-10 02:55 PM
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19. Same here - I like that it was posted
As long as we know it's a long shot, it is a great idea to encourage any possibility. This one bears watching - if the next poll is similar, there might be something happening here. It might also depend on McCain doing something wrong - if so this could be a Democratic version of Scott Brown.

There is a scheduled debate on September 26. http://blogs.phoenixnewtimes.com/valleyfever/2010/09/john_mccain_to_debate_ronald_g.php It might be worth watching. McCain was very uneven in his 2008 debates, though far better than George Bush was in 2004. Overall, though he was a competent debater. The key might be to subtly trigger his temper. (Not easy to do because it really has to be subtle. If he is not angry, McCain has the ability to sound very reasonable and seem likable.)
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-10-10 06:20 PM
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4. McOld is NOT COUNTRY FIRST
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TlalocW Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-10-10 07:03 PM
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6. I would love for McCain to lose
And be relegated to the dustbins of history, facing his last years being rejected by both the majority of Americans as well as his own state's population. The man proved to us all what a piece of shit he truly is and deserves worse.

TlalocW
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jillan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-10-10 07:08 PM
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7. Sept 26th - tune into the debate!!
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-10-10 09:35 PM
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10. Is Rodney Glassman good at getting his
message across, jillan?
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jillan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-10-10 09:40 PM
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11. Well - let's just say other candidates would've been better.
Not impressed yet - but OFA is working their butts off to help get his message out there.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-10-10 11:27 PM
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13. And, Mr Glassman has mccain's daily
flip flops and the hits keep coming ..goin' for him!
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Bleacher Creature Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-10-10 07:09 PM
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8. Sorry, but I can't do that.
If I let myself go down that road, I would get myself WAY too excited -- which would likely lead to me being hugely let down in November.

But damn, wouldn't that be incredible . . .
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-10-10 09:35 PM
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9. "Glassman is surging more than anyone could have predicted"!
That's a really good start! Imagine mccain giving another concession speech in Arizona! :bounce:
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AwakeAtLast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-10-10 09:55 PM
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12. When the GOP preaches "throw the bums out"
they forget that the public sees any Congressperson who has a lot of years in as a "bum".
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Ter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-11-10 01:04 AM
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14. Keep imagining...
:)
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jillan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-11-10 01:09 AM
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15. Why are people unrec'ing this thread? Are there DUers out there that want to keep McCain in office?
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totodeinhere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-11-10 08:52 PM
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23. No, it's probably because the results are coming from Rasmussen, a Republican pollster. n/t
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jimmyflint Donating Member (239 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-11-10 06:09 AM
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16. That would be awesome! n/t
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Peacetrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-11-10 07:45 AM
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17. Well you just made my Saturday!!! K&R
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old mark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-11-10 08:19 AM
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18. Personally, I'd love to see McCain lose his seat in the Senate...he has
been destructive enough to our country over the years. I wish Glassman the best.
If I can scrape together a donation, he is on the list.


mark
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rufus dog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-11-10 03:01 PM
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20. During the debate Glassman should ask McCain
In 2008 you stated you knew how to catch bin Laden, two years have passed and you still haven't provided any detail, are you unpatriotic or were you lying?
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kiranon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-11-10 03:53 PM
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21. Good question. But, McCain won't answer it. n/t
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totodeinhere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-11-10 08:50 PM
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22. Usually when someone posts a Rasmussen poll that shows a GOP candidate ahead they get flamed
for posting a Republican pollster. But I guess if you like the results of a Rasmussen poll, then it's OK to post it? Now I'm confused.
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