This is what Barack Obama has done to them

[impik]

He drove them nuts. They could not stand the sight of a black man in the WH, they could not stand to listen to a black man who is so much smarter, educated and better than them - so cool, calm and collected, just kept smiling at their horrible smears, and got his legislation passed one by one. He made the moderates crazy, and the crazy crazier, and he didn't even have to do anything but being his brilliant self.

[babylonsister]

1. He's a very decent human being; that drove them

crazy!

Think about what that says about 'them', and not just those candidates, but the people who voted for them.

[MannyGoldstein]

2. And FDR only turned them into Democrats

By fighting for, and delivering, true Democratic values.

[Lost4words]

3. +1 nt

[geek tragedy]

7. FDR was white and had the support of the Segregationists.

Something tells me Obama will never be able to convert the racist white South to Democrats for reasons other than merit.

[MannyGoldstein]

10. He. Won. The. Presidency.

With. An. Awesome. Mandate.

I suspect he could have done a lot, if he'd tried hard to push for change that helps working Americans. Instead, he hired the Clinton DLC crypto-Republicans to run the show.

And now we are here,

[butterfly77]

22. A lot of his problem is..

a lot of so called Dems in power who can't stand a black person in charge so they will do their damndest to make him look lesser than,believing that their will be a new day when they get another white Dem but the damage will be done..many will not forget.

[jesus_of_suburbia]

41. "believing that their will be a new day when they get another white Dem but the damage will be done.

...many will not forget."






Well then, tough shit for them.



Many people remember the sexism of the primaries, and they still vote Dem (me included).

[Ysabela]

44. Who, exactly, was 'sexist' during the primaries?

I don't recall any sexism against Hillary except that which came from the Repukes trying to stir up shit during the Dem primaries. Obama was a perfect gentleman along with his campaign. I do recall Hillary's camp stirring up the Jeremiah Wright shit though...

Unless you consider calling Hillary out on her lies about taking sniper fire 'sexist'.

[defendandprotect]

49. "Southern Strategy" may be large part myth ...Segregation depended upon Dixiecrats

in Congress keeping liberalizing legislation at bay --

and keeping the big stick over the heads of AAs in the South --

It took LBJ to say "NO" to the Speaker -- what was his name, in fact, a good friend

of LBJ's --

and both LBJ -- and Carter -- carried the Confederate States!!

The faked "Southern Strategy" of the GOP, needless to say, dependend upon keeping

a political violence going in the South -- and probably in large part ON THE COMPUTERS

which began to come in during the mid-late-1960's -- just as America was passing

The Voting Rights Act!

We need to get back to paper ballots -- and throw the computers into Boston Harbor!!

I'd question every election back to Nixon/Humphrey -- another squeaker which the GOP

may have only pulled off because of secret deals that kept the "bombing lull" put in

place by LBJ from bearing fruition!

[Enthusiast]

71. Plus one! nt

[suzie]

82. Is this a joke? Satire?

Because denying that there ever was a "Southern Strategy" is Numero Uno in the Republican Book of Talking Points.

Have you ever heard of Philadelphia, Mississippi? Do you understand why it was so important that Reagan opened his campaign talking about "states rights" in Philadelphia?

The Speaker of the House of Representatives was Sam Rayburn, who aided Democrats in passing Civil Rights Acts that affected voting in 1957 and 1961, even though he had never favored civil rights legislation.

But, have you ever heard of Poll Taxes, stuffed ballot boxes, people voting out in the open at tables where anyone could walk up and look over your shoulder at your vote? There were many other ways to affect elections before computers were used.

That's how LBJ was elected Senator--by stuffing the ballot boxes and paying off people to do so. He had previously lost because the other people's stuffed boxes came in later than his.

So far as I know, there was a real Southern Strategy, not a fake one.

[SkyDaddy7]

42. Very True and FDR did not have to deal with...

a media empire as powerful & evil as the Rupert Murdoch media empire is! The way he can manipulate the thinking of so many in America is scary!

[defendandprotect]

50. FDR did have to deal with two attempts on his life .....

Franklin D. Roosevelt Assassination Attempt - FBI Freedom of ...
Freedom of Information files from the FBI. On February 15, 1933, Guiseppe Zangara attempted to assassinate Franklin Delano Roosevelt while the ...
http://digital.library.miami.edu/gov/FDRAssn.html

AND . . .

The coup by wealthy elites which Brig. Gen. Smedly Darlington Butler uncovered --

http://www.ctka.net/pr399-fdr.html



ALSO . . .

What amazes me is how many people remember Orwell's "1984" ...but not the TV screen--!!!

[Enthusiast]

73. You are so right!

Rupert is pure evil. Never in history have we had our democracy hijacked to this extent. And without a free media we have no chance.

We are watching our local NBC affiliate this morning. They have been ultra negative on Obama and the Democrats this morning. It's like this 24/7.

[TBF]

77. FDR also had a very strong left (not liberals, I mean the communist party)

to deal with. At that point, the great recession, the communists were making inroads with workers. FDR saw that "threat" and reacted accordingly. It is interesting to contrast with Obama's disdain for the left.

I agree with Manny that Obama has blown an incredible opportunity, but the situation is certainly different in many ways than it was in the 30's.

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

11. Oh yeah, FDR never drove anybody nuts.

:crazy:

[Cha]

12. Right..if only they could go back and live

in those times when everything was so fucking perfect.

[vaberella]

36. To hear some people on this board talk. I'd rather be living now than during the time of FDR.

Being Black was a nightmare then.

[defendandprotect]

53. So, now, if FDR was a liberal in his time, he has to be put down ....

in an attempt to elevate Obama ?


Granted much of this T-bagger stuff is racist -- because they were created by the

Republicans who hold -- and who represent elites who hold -- racist interests in

exploitation of other humans according to various myths of "inferiority."


Let's not forget that those same interests are mainly about EXPLOITATION, whether we

call that exploitation racist, or sexist, or homophobic -- or anti-semitic -- or

anti-nature. These are elite interests expressed thru capitalism which are ALL suicidal!


Respect for liberals/progressive "New Deal" and FDR seems to be rather annoying for some here!

Please keep in mind this isn't about personalities --

what we are all supposedly fighting is an elitist CORPORATIST AGENDA = FASCISM!!

This has very little to do with personalities -- it has to do with direction the country

is being taken in -- i.e., destruction of public education, pro-corporatist government

policies, sabotaging of universal health care by Baucus and others in the pockets of

the health care industry -- Wall Street/DLC running the White House --

[namahage]

62. But it's OK to insinuate that FDR was delivering "Democratic values"

in an attempt to slam Obama--even though, as has been shown repeatedly, FDR wasn't exactly averse to throwing away civil rights in the name of political expediency?

But of course. You agree 1000%.

[defendandprotect]

65. FDR created Social Security -- Obama is attacking Social Security ... see any difference there?

FDR's New Deal included a plan for universal health care --

See any difference in what Obama/Baucus did -- and in Rahma's "crowing" about saving

the PRIVATIZED system for business - ?

The New Deal supported public education -- Obama is attacking public education in

working with Arne Duncan to push Charter schools --

These are ISSUES ... NOT PERSONALITIES -- try to deal with the issues --



ALSO, keep in mind that we have Obama cheerleaders gone nuts here -- I've had one poster

tell me that criticism of Obama's agenda/direction is "disemboweling" of Obama!!


Keep in mind that the GOP uses their bases's criticism of leftwing policy not as an excuse

to attack their base . . . but rather as a way to move their own party to the RIGHT -- and

to move government policy to the RIGHT.

Instead of doing the same thing in reverse -- using critism of right wing policy to move

the Democratic Party to the LEFT and government policy to the LEFT - this administration

uses criticism of their policy to attack their base.

What sense does that make unless the goal is to move to the RIGHT?

If the goal isn't to move the Democratic Party to the RIGHT, what is DLC-Rahm doing in the

White? Why do we have a Democratic president appointing a RIGHT-WING/Wall Street "team" - ???

Did we elect a Demcoratic president to put Republicans in charge?

[impik]

18. Until today i thought FDR was welcoming their hate.... I guess

people are allowed to spin history in which way they can if it helps them bash president Obama.

[Fire1]

23. Huey Long probably drove FDR nuts lol.

[vaberella]

35. Drove him really nuts. FDR didn't really care about Blacks or minorities in the US. n/t

[RaleighNCDUer]

63. Never mind that FDR cobbled together the coalition of unionists,

blacks, Jews, and East Coast liberals while not alienating the Democratic south, to win FOUR FUCKING ELECTIONS.

And it was a coalition that held together until the 60s.

But no, he didn't care about blacks, or labor, or Jews.

:eyes:

[pnorman]

78. "...... FDR didn't really care ab'out Blacks.."

That's probably not true, but he handled the segregationist south with EXTREME caution. It was his wife, Eleanor, who said and did the courageous things in that direction, and took all the heat!

And FDR had the SOLID votes, both in the House and the Senate! Andv a significant fraction of Republicans in Congress supported his New Deal legislation,

"...and I welcome their hate!" was said in 1936, AFTER stunning victories in 1932 and 1934.

[defendandprotect]

54. Huey Long helped push the agenda which became FDR's "New Deal "....

so did the Communist Party of America -- and Upton Sinclair -- and many others!

[Fire1]

55. FDR still didn't like him cause Long wouldn't give him credit

for the "Share the Wealth" program.

[defendandprotect]

56. The point is that FDR used Huey Long to help move agenda/government policy to the LEFT .... !!!

Huey Long was part of the liberal force which formulated and pushed underlying

concepts for the New Deal -- populist rhetoric making it EASIER for FDR to sell

the New Deal programs to the public -- who better understood their stake in the

New Deal than many even now understand their stake in it -- and in social safety nets!

FDR used critics to move his agenda and to move government policy to the LEFT - !!


And when you understand that much, you also understand the right wing doesn't shut up

their critics who complain of not enough movement to the right -- they push them and use

them because that's the direction they want to go in.


Otoh, the Democrats have taken the right wing into the White House in the DLC and Wall Street --

and SHUN and DISRESPECT their critics seeking to move politics and the agenda to the LEFT!

Rather than using their liberal/progressive critics to move government to LEFT -- they seek

to cut off liberals -- to disconnect from their base! Of course that makes no sense --

and it is the very opposite of what the public wants.


That's the double-edged sword in the White House teaching its fellow Democrats to disrespect

liberals/progressive . . . . THAT's the thinking and behavior which continues to move agenda/

government to the RIGHT!

Did we elect a Democratic president so he and his Wall St. Team could move government/agenda

to the RIGHT ?? ?? ???


I certainly didn't!!

[Fire1]

80. No. I think you derailed the "point." What you post is

probably true from a strategic perspective but it was not the original point of MY post.

[YOY]

16. Winning people over? Unpossibles!!!

n/t

[pezDispenser]

25. well said.

[Waiting For Everyman]

26. +1

And I really like the link in your signature, Manny.

[suzie]

27. Internment camps? True Democratic values. Who knew?

Refusal to support anti-lynching legislation? Yeah, that has the ring of a "True Democratic Value".

[impik]

28. "PROGRESSIVE"!

[Starbucks Anarchist]

34. I'm sure Japanese-Americans loved him for that.

[vaberella]

38. Internment camps was not a true Democratic Value---or I hope not.

Don't just people anyone out of your ass to push a point. Because that is one of the weakest. FDR did a lot of good and a lot of horrible horrible things----to the point of horrifyingly bad to Citizens. In no way has Obama done anything similar to FDR in that sense. So don't go promoting FDR as some God of Democratic Values. Because then you slap all minorities in the face when you do.

[defendandprotect]

66. Wiretapping the entire nation isn't exactly a democratic value .....

and, of course, putting Japanese in internment camps certainly isn't a democratic value

either -- unfortunately, the Supreme Court didn't stop it, either!

This was WWII -- still not an excuse -- but do you want to compare the lies that took us

into the two wars with that?

[defendandprotect]

52. +1000% --

[scentopine]

61. You are correct of course, the centrists and other right wingers

are rewriting history - painting FDR as a racist - what next - he prolonged the depression? Apparently its OK for centrists to slag off bullshit against FDR (why do centrists hate FDR?). But its not OK to call out a sitting democratic president.

Obama has no core FDR leadership ability, no FDR passion, no FDR vision. Obama is fighting for the status quo, making deals with republicans, a modern day Chamberlain. Obama is to leadership as an insurance actuary is to a cancer patient. All business.

Johnson, Kennedy, FDR, Truman, Eisenhower all were products of their generation and moved beyond the racism of their time. All would be considered radical leftists by the measure of the modern centrist.

This little known order http://www.classbrain.com/artteenst/publish/article_71.shtml is considered the most radical and the most important civil rights act until 1960s. I first learned about this in school about 40 years ago. FDR worked miracles of policy and change in a much more hostile and dangerous world than Obama faces today. Centrists and other right wingers treat FDR like he was Saddam Hussein. Did he make mistakes, yes. Did he do more good than harm? It took 50 years for the rich and elite in both parties to push the middle class back into the powerless servitude we know and love today. And the centrists on DU seem downright proud of this fact.

As for FDR as anti-Semite? Around the world there are great injustices, in Iraq there are over a million displaced refugees. In Afghanistan, Africa, China and former soviet States there are killings, political prisoners and refugees and unspeakable horrors and injustices. It is exactly this injustice that fuels terrorism and hatred. However, US citizens find it easier to slaughter people with massive amounts of weaponry than address the roots of dissent. When oil is at stake we can be amazingly tolerant when impoverished people are slaughtered by their own governments and ours. Even an oil spill is swept under water. Perhaps no horror exists at the scale perpetrated by the Germans, but in Africa, it is certainly close enough. Is Obama a racist for not bombing one end of the continent to the next? And yes, I know the centrists argue that Gitmo isn't really an internment.

Obama would do well to emulate a great man like FDR. Only in the centrist incorporated school system is FDR is a racist, anti-semite.

FDR was a great leader. Obama is not a great leader. Obama's weakness is fueling the Tea Party. Obama's lack of conviction and principals are ripping the democratic party in two, he destroying it in exactly the same way the tea party is destroying the republican party. His disdain for those of us on the "left" is palpable.

The mainstream political parties are circling the wagons, the centrists are worried about the "left".

One thing the centrists are correct about - Obama is better than Bush. Obama is

- outspending Bush in Afghanistan, spending in Afghanistan is higher than Bush's spending peak in Iraq.

- He passed drill-baby-drill. Bush couldn't do that.

- He made torture a non-actionable offense. Bush couldn't do that. Bush tried to keep it secret. Obama brought it out in the open for us all to see and then said "While it is unpleasant, there is nothing so wrong about it that we need to seek justice for the perpetrators." Bush couldn't do that so he simply hid it.

- He gave more than Bush to Wall Street so that it might trickle down to the rest of us. And we applauded. Bush couldn't do that.

- He passed financial reform with barely a single conviction for any of criminals at the root of the massive criminal enterprise, while completely preserving the status quo in a "reform" package so obtuse and vague that its value is strictly in its political rhetoric. Bush couldn't do that.

- He passed health reform with no cost controls, preserved prejudice for pre-existing conditions by allowing premiums to discriminate against sick people, mandated insurance and passed laws eliminating competitive pricing for drugs. Bush couldn't do that.

So the centrists and former republicans at the helm of the new democratic party tell me I'm a radical left, that I'm not realistic.

1. Anger at the escalation of killing, murder, bombing, blood letting, money burning, destruction in Afghanistan. What a fucking disaster. Surge? Yes. A surge in dead bodies and cash for DoD contractors.

2. Anger at the magnificent nothing called health reform that keeps my premiums increasing 15% a year, while my deductible increases 15% a year. A bonanza for the health care CEO shitheads (and their centrist defenders) who treat people like cattle. Centrists trumpet this like it is some sort of FDR new deal. They trot it out as proof of Obama's brilliance, the chess master. Its a made for TV political device. Like Bush delivering a plastic turkey for the troops.

3. Anger at the bi-partisanship bullshit, the scolding of those on the left. The appeasement. Do liberals need to become republicans to get representation?

4. Anger at a loose cannon education czar intent on de-humanizing the teaching profession and making teachers like commodity factory workers "Quality is job ONE". How about we hold the government as accountable for progress as they want to hold us accountable.

5. Anger at censorship and secrecy surrounding the oil spill.

6. Anger at a man who gave us drill baby drill, in spite of the presented the factual evidence that the Mineral Management Service was corrupt, literally in bed with the oil industry. A business so fucking corrupt that they celebrated passage of drill-baby-drill with a cake that said "drill-baby-drill" on it even as oil was gushing into the Gulf.

7. Anger at the massive increase in "intelligence" spending which just means more and more spying on us - making it easier than ever for local and federal officals to track you - planning a protest over oil drilling? I guarantee you are on a terrorist watch group. Watch as your history gets sent around the country and eventually this info will have impact on your employment, health insurance, travel, etc. IT WILL HAPPEN. IT IS HAPPENING. http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100915/ap_on_re_us/us_homeland_security_bulletin?

8. Anger at sitting back and letting the "free-market" work its magic as net neutrality gets neutered.

9. There is plenty more to be angry about. The democratic party is accommodating the new democrats who used to vote republican. I promise that as soon as a charismatic non-bat-shit-crazy republican runs for president all these new democrats will vacate the dem party - and the dem leadership will act like they never saw it coming.

Dem party leadership is a ship of fools, aiming straight at the tea party iceberg. Laughing about how the tea party means more democratic "wins". You can call it a win, it smells like team republican spirit.

Two years is plenty of time to set a direction and set priorities. Obama is lucky we aren't demanding the same performance of him that he is demanding of over-worked, under-paid teachers, in particular, and all hard working people in general.

[defendandprotect]

68. +1000% --

Your post should have been a thread --

But do want to comment on one part of this .....


FDR was a great leader. Obama is not a great leader. Obama's weakness is fueling the Tea Party. Obama's lack of conviction and principals are ripping the democratic party in two, he destroying it in exactly the same way the tea party is destroying the republican party. His disdain for those of us on the "left" is palpable.

Two points on that -- first, the GOP certainly doesn't attack its base, though that base has

often been critical of their president and his policies -- RATHER the right wing uses that criticism

to move their party and government policy even further to the RIGHT.

That's, in fact, what Obama/Democrats should be doing -- using our criticism to move the Democratic

Party and government policy further to the LEFT --

This doesn't happen because the goals of Obama are more clearly expressed in those he has chosen

for his team -- DLC/corporate Rahm Emmanuel -- and Wall Street/Goldman Sacks "team" -- and the

pro-corporate decisions they have made. FED/Bernanke and pro-corporate decisions.

We have to keep the concentration on the ISSUES -- not personalities.


second -- Heard an interesting discussion today on Thom Hartmann re the T-Baggers.

Thom was cautioning us not to try to dismiss them but to be very careful about this latest

GOP creation. Hartmann was relating how this happened in Germany and Italy -- and that it was

NOT the government who put the "brown shirts" and the "black shirts" in business, but the ELITES.

THEY handed out the "shirts" -- and this is not dissimilar from what the GOP/Dick Armey and

right wing money have done in creating these T-baggers -- which, btw, are run by a PR firm.


Like everything else the GOP/right wing does this is a money creation -- but it will attract

ignorant and violent people. Hartman was saying that these people did eventually end up with

more control over government -- and once they had that they were free to be even more brutal

and more violent.


Keep in mind that the GOP gave start up funding for the "Christian Coalition" in the 1980's ...

consider how that has dragged down this nation. As Dick Cheney liked to say -- "the right wing

creates the reality" -- and the rest of us live it!



------------------------


QUOTE --

One thing the centrists are correct about - Obama is better than Bush. Obama is

- outspending Bush in Afghanistan, spending in Afghanistan is higher than Bush's spending peak in Iraq.

- He passed drill-baby-drill. Bush couldn't do that.

- He made torture a non-actionable offense. Bush couldn't do that. Bush tried to keep it secret. Obama brought it out in the open for us all to see and then said "While it is unpleasant, there is nothing so wrong about it that we need to seek justice for the perpetrators." Bush couldn't do that so he simply hid it.

- He gave more than Bush to Wall Street so that it might trickle down to the rest of us. And we applauded. Bush couldn't do that.

- He passed financial reform with barely a single conviction for any of criminals at the root of the massive criminal enterprise, while completely preserving the status quo in a "reform" package so obtuse and vague that its value is strictly in its political rhetoric. Bush couldn't do that.

- He passed health reform with no cost controls, preserved prejudice for pre-existing conditions by allowing premiums to discriminate against sick people, mandated insurance and passed laws eliminating competitive pricing for drugs. Bush couldn't do that.

So the centrists and former republicans at the helm of the new democratic party tell me I'm a radical left, that I'm not realistic.

1. Anger at the escalation of killing, murder, bombing, blood letting, money burning, destruction in Afghanistan. What a fucking disaster. Surge? Yes. A surge in dead bodies and cash for DoD contractors.

2. Anger at the magnificent nothing called health reform that keeps my premiums increasing 15% a year, while my deductible increases 15% a year. A bonanza for the health care CEO shitheads (and their centrist defenders) who treat people like cattle. Centrists trumpet this like it is some sort of FDR new deal. They trot it out as proof of Obama's brilliance, the chess master. Its a made for TV political device. Like Bush delivering a plastic turkey for the troops.

3. Anger at the bi-partisanship bullshit, the scolding of those on the left. The appeasement. Do liberals need to become republicans to get representation?

4. Anger at a loose cannon education czar intent on de-humanizing the teaching profession and making teachers like commodity factory workers "Quality is job ONE". How about we hold the government as accountable for progress as they want to hold us accountable.

5. Anger at censorship and secrecy surrounding the oil spill.

6. Anger at a man who gave us drill baby drill, in spite of the presented the factual evidence that the Mineral Management Service was corrupt, literally in bed with the oil industry. A business so fucking corrupt that they celebrated passage of drill-baby-drill with a cake that said "drill-baby-drill" on it even as oil was gushing into the Gulf.

7. Anger at the massive increase in "intelligence" spending which just means more and more spying on us - making it easier than ever for local and federal officals to track you - planning a protest over oil drilling? I guarantee you are on a terrorist watch group. Watch as your history gets sent around the country and eventually this info will have impact on your employment, health insurance, travel, etc. IT WILL HAPPEN. IT IS HAPPENING. http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100915/ap_on_re_us/us_home... ?

8. Anger at sitting back and letting the "free-market" work its magic as net neutrality gets neutered.

9. There is plenty more to be angry about. The democratic party is accommodating the new democrats who used to vote republican. I promise that as soon as a charismatic non-bat-shit-crazy republican runs for president all these new democrats will vacate the dem party - and the dem leadership will act like they never saw it coming.

Dem party leadership is a ship of fools, aiming straight at the tea party iceberg. Laughing about how the tea party means more democratic "wins". You can call it a win, it smells like team republican spirit.

Two years is plenty of time to set a direction and set priorities. Obama is lucky we aren't demanding the same performance of him that he is demanding of over-worked, under-paid teachers, in particular, and all hard working people in general.


Fantastic post!!

[scentopine]

81. Thanks for the kind words...

There is a raw and unbridled meanness at the heart of the new democratic party - one that has its roots to the neo-cons. It is more than distressing to see the new democrats recycling the neo-con policy disasters, rubbing our noses in it all the time telling us it doesn't smell like shit.

Every single fucking neo-con, centrist democrat and right-wing policy has resulted in a cross section sickness, death and/or destruction (either bodily or economically or intellectually) for ordinary citizens - all the while these SOBs snuff out any concept of shared responsibility and the role of government as something other than a proxy advocate and regular pay-check for fortune 500 CEOs.

I'm also truly disgusted by the people bullying liberals here. The centrists are so comfortable and personal in their glib attacks its as if they are officially sanctioned. It is complete insanity. I hardly come by here anymore and when I do, the ignorance on display is more than I can tolerate.

It isn't the tea party that is destroying this world, its the "centrists" - the Geithners, Bernanke's, Summers, Emanuels, (and their republican soul mates) and all the 20/30 something pin heads in both parties kissing their asses.

These rigid centrists are the root cause of our steadily declining quality of life.

I'd trade every fucking bobble headed, lazy, narcissistic, arrogant, self-serving centrist for one FDR.

[Fruittree]

74. Democratic values...

like the "relocation camps" for Japanese Americans.

[peace13]

4. Nothing makes the crazy crazier, than a calm voice. n/t

[MinneapolisMatt]

5. Bingo.

Well said.

[opihimoimoi]

6. Yup, he drove them off a cliff by being the positive person he is..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cfCvjv51I88&feature=related

[bobburgster]

30. Loved the video you attached!

[ginnyinWI]

8. oh I think they did it to themselves.

It was Bush, and Rove, and Rummy and Condi for starters. Bad governing, poor results, doing everything for political effect and little actual substance. Short term gains, long term disaster.

[ensho]

9. and to top that his black wife showed the world great swaths of her

black skin. oh the nerve of that woman, she doesn't know her place.

the white, racist, christian nuts are having nervous breakdowns.

it makes them dangerous and they should be carefully watched.

[Bluenorthwest]

13. Obama helped, but they did this to themselves

With their rhetoric, their divisive methods, their terrible and often criminal policies, their willingness to nominate unqualified candidates to the highest offices, their disregard for the Constitution and the institutions of this nation. To be in the place they are now takes years of concerted irresponsibility and dereliction of duty.
Obama provided a nice push, but this is a process that helped Obama to win in the first place, not one that he started. This is self destruction, and that is the very best kind.

[felix_numinous]

14. President Obama has brought racism out in the open

to expose where everybody is in the process of dealing with it.

I have always known there were racist areas of the country, but never before have my eyes been this open to how pervasive is still is, and this makes me sad. Much of the country really is still segregated to such an extent that people do not get a chance to work or learn together enough to overcome the stories they have been raised with.

There are two areas I hold accountable for fueling racism, the greedy RW media and the xenophobic churches that sell out completely to the almighty dollar. Money trumps everything these days-- including empathy and unconditional love.

[BrklynLiberal]

15. Absolutely right...Some of them will just fall down and their heads will explode out of

frustration and hate filled anger.

[vaberella]

76. I have to admit that the racism aspect got a lot of republicans fired in the last two years. n/t

[Beavker]

17. Something like this?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HY-03vYYAjA

[Hamlette]

19. Palin's name will go down in history as like McCarthy.

someone who hijacked the party and the national discourse for a time but is seen through the eyes of history as a destructive nut job.

Who is going to ask Pain if she has no decency?

[Beetwasher]

20. Yup, They've Gone Batshit Crazy Cuz They Can't Get His Goat

n/t

[kestrel91316]

40. + 1 000 000 000 000 000

[butterfly77]

21. Kicked&Recommended!

:kick: and many on DU..

[CakeGrrl]

24. k/r - truer words and all that!

[Cha]

29. Obama Derangement Syndrome..

It's all over the place..it's sad to watch.

[bobburgster]

31. You are so right!

Hope more dems begin to see things through your eyes.

[BlueJac]

32. Obama turned me into a Independent......

I love that he is black and driving those nut jobs out of their minds, but he is no liberal and never brought the change he promised. Democrats now are old Republicans and old Republicans are Tea Baggers. I hate right wingers no matter who they are, fuck them and their corporate ways.

[vaberella]

39. Interesting, because Politifact says you're wrong.

http://politifact.com/truth-o-meter/promises/

[JDPriestly]

33. Obama is struggling against nearly 50 years of right-wing indoctrination.

The filthy rich (as opposed to the just plain rich but good folks) have funded think tanks, bought media and brainwashed millions of Americans to believe that somehow they, too, can be filthy rich if they are just selfish and mean enough -- if they are as selfish and mean as the filthy rich.

And I do want to point out that I am not painting everyone who has a lot of money as "filthy rich." We all know who which kind of wealthy person I am talking about -- the extremely greedy ones who actually believe that their wealth is proof that they are better than other people in every respect and therefore have the right to dominate and destroy anyone with less money than they.

[Diane R]

45. Excellent post.

[defendandprotect]

57. Generally agree -- EXCEPT with the emphasis on making this personal ....

The GOP has certainly long been sexist, racist, homophobic, anti-semitic --

they are simply the myths of "inferiority" which supply the ignorant fuel for exploitation

of our fellow humans!

This isn't simply about Obama -- it's about through and through desire of the GOP to return

to overall racist agenda -- and any all exploitation possible! Child labor if they can do it!


Here are some other thoughts which I posted on this thread which I hope point up FDR's using

criticism of his policies to move government to the LEFT --

Whereas Obama -- starting off on a corporatist footing -- has only used the left's criticism

of his policies as an excuse to belittle and demean his base! While remaining true to his

corporatist leanings . . .


http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=433&topic_id=442480&mesg_id=443988

[Swede]

37. He's got them destroying each other

It's a thing of beauty.

[ckimmy57]

43. Agree 100 %

You are 100 % right. My hubby has said all along that those dirty rotten repukes cannot STAND the thought of a black man in THEIR white house. I applaud our President by the way he has responded to these racist SOB's....by remaining the gentleman that he is and just smiling.

[Fire1]

46. Kick & Rec on that!! n/t

[florida08]

47. it would seem so

But consider many women who wanted Hillary are angry that he won too. It's why you see them snug up to Palin..and look at how many women have just won GOP nominations lately. Fringy as they are. I always thought women smarter than men but I guess I'll have to rethink that.

By the way thanks for a very positive thread. Good to see here. We really need to get psyched up for November. The movement is small in the teabaggies but they are beyond passionate. Joe Biden did an interview with Maddow. Said something that stuck with me.
Don't judge me by the Almighty but by the Alternative. Many have been disappointed including myself about some of the watered down legislation we've gotten but I'll be damned if I want the alternative back in there finishing me off. At least with the majority of the dems I know I have a fighting chance. Have a great evening.

[quiet.american]

48. K&R.nt

[burnsei sensei]

51. You're right. And I have no sympathy

for their breakdown.

[BlancheSplanchnik]

58. I just had a big ugly argument with my hunny

who HATES Obama.
Not sure he even knows why. Oh well, he's very angry about the money given to all the rich bastards who turn around and give themselves bonuses. I've tried to explain that that was Bush who did that, and that the stimulus and auto bailout saved the economy, and that the bank bailout has been mostly paid back to the gov't........ but he doesn't want to hear that.

I send links that correct his mistaken beliefs when we have these bullshit showdowns, but they never seem to make an impression on him. (don't know where he gets this crap--we don't have cable. Maybe his fundagelical brother sends him shit... :shrug: )

*sigh* :(

I don't yell back cuz he can yell a lot louder than me; and I have memory problems too, so I need to gather my facts in writing. Can't remember and verbalize well.....

[SpankMe]

59. He drove them nuts, alright.

And now they're driving the country into the ground.

I'm pessimistic for the future of this country in view of the fact that a calm, dispassionate, exceptionally intelligent, thinking and educated constitutional lawyer - and real American - who happens to be black, has inadvertently triggered - simply by being who he is - a backlash so severe that the very fabric of our great nation is about to be torn to shreds. Policy has nothing to do with it. It's race. Period. Old, white fuckers want America to look like it did in their childhood. Now that our elected leader is a Negro, they're having collective aneurysms. I can only hope this is a death throe of white supremacy and the birth of a new, post-racial era.

The leadership of this country is on the precipice of going to those who are the exact opposite of Barack Obama in every way.

That is scarier than anything I can think of.

And this is coming from a white fucker.

[annabanana]

72. We have to stay on the defensive and MAKE SURE that the vast

unengaged parts of our population know exactly what they're up to.

...and welcome to DU,

[marlakay]

60. and what do you think Hillary would have done?

they hated the clintons, they would have done the same thing just for different reasons...

[defendandprotect]

69. Exactly .... and trying to suggest that this is JUST racism is inane....

the party is now and has always been sexist, racist, homophobic - anti-Jewish --

that's what they stand for --

Had Hillary been president-- not hard to guess what would be going on now!!

Not only is the GOP full of hatred for those they want to exploit -- according to

various myths of "inferiority" -- they represent elites who hold the same hatreds!!

[Guilded Lilly]

64. in a nutshell!

Exactly. And I hope it continues to send them flying over the edge.

[ocd liberal]

67. I do agree.

K & R!!

[BDavinciNY]

70. BHO have done a wonderful job pushing RW and baggers to the edge

Let's not forget that RW and the teabaggers don't have anything political to bash Obama on. They make up anything and everything to discredit him. So far Obama is untouchable politically. The RW (and racists) generally had the idea that Blacks and other minorities are lower than they are. They have been told for centuries they were superior. Now they are freaking out that they have to take their orders from a black man who is well educated and calm. It bothers them that he is POTUS and the white man like Joe Biden is Veep is working under him and not the other way around. They have to do nonsensical things to belittle him (i.e birth certificate, Kenyan citizenship nonsense and etc.) and ignore the fact that he is the President. So let them go over the cliff to the trash heap of history. America is evolving as a diverse society of all ethnic backgrounds and leave the white trash,right winger teabaggers where they belong... in the garbage!

[AlinPA]

84. Yes. You got it.

[old mark]

75. They hated Truman, too - because he would not back off from them, and

he never let up on them. He was actually attacked in his office and pulled a revolver out of his desk drawer!


mark

[anachro1]

79. His presidency made

their precious "N" word unusable.

White Amerika will not hsve that!

[angee_is_mad]

83. don't 4get his flyazz wife and beautiful, smart kids

just that image makes their head explode. Those dayum Uppity Obama's, how dare they live the American dream better than me!