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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-10 05:41 PM
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BREAKING-Elizabeth Warren has been named as a Special Advisor to the
Edited on Wed Sep-15-10 05:53 PM by jenmito
WH and Treasury Dept. in dealing with the Consumer Advocacy Group.(from Ed Schultz.) :bounce:

ETA: The move, first reported by ABC News' Jake Tapper, gives Warren an important role in creation of the bureau, but avoids, for now, a confirmation fight in the Senate. Her selection will appease a slew of prominent lawmakers, progressives, and labor unions who in recent months have clamored for her nomination to the post.

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/obama-picks-elizabeth-warren-help-form-consumer-agency/story?id=11624929
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Rosa Luxemburg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-10 05:42 PM
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1. Terrific!
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vaberella Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-10 05:42 PM
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2. Interim advisor or just advisor?! n/t
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-10 05:43 PM
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5. I just used his exact words, so that's all I know. n/t
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vaberella Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-10 05:50 PM
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15. Okay, thanks. Good news either way. n/t
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onehandle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-10 05:43 PM
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3. Blah, blah, blah.
Sounds mushy as Hell.

We're not in the minority... yet.


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CaliforniaPeggy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-10 05:43 PM
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4. It's about time!
They finally got off the dime, and named her!

Recommended.

:bounce:
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-10 05:43 PM
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6. Hey! I'm glad I just happen to catch it from your..
BREAKING NEWS!
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Oceansaway Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-10 05:44 PM
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7. wooooohoooooo !!...nt
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catgirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-10 05:44 PM
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8. I feel so proud right now... n/t
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flpoljunkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-10 05:44 PM
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9. TPM: They Must Not Really Want Her
Edited on Wed Sep-15-10 05:50 PM by flpoljunkie
(Very disappointing! I need to hear from Elizabeth Warren herself on this 'special position.')
They Must Really Not Want Her
David Kurtz
September 15, 2010, 5:51PM

ABC's Jake Tapper has a curious scoop*, reporting that President Obama will name Elizabeth Warren not to run the new consumer financial protection bureau but instead will give her the previously unheralded "special position reporting to both him and to the Treasury Department and tasked with heading the effort to get the new federal agency standing." Get that?

http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2010/09/exclusive-president-obama-to-this-week-name-elizabeth-warren-to-special-advisory-role-to-white-house.html

We're seeking more clarification now, but it sounds like the White House has decided that instead of nominating Warren to head up the new consumer financial protection bureau, or alternatively avoiding the confirmation process and appointing her as interim director, the President will take a third way and make her a special adviser to help set the bureau up.

I tend to agree with Matt Yglesias on this: "With Warren, Obama showing real innovation in developing odd, satisfying to nobody compromises."

--David Kurtz

http://www.talkingpointsmemo.com/archives/2010/09/they_must_really_not_want_her.php?ref=fpblg
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mikelgb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-10 05:46 PM
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10. +1
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arcane1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-10 05:46 PM
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11. I'm hoping I'm wrong...
but it seems like she's just getting "a" job to throw a bone to us, without putting her in any position of power that might piss off Wall St
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-10 05:47 PM
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12. You can't run something that isn't running yet.
Edited on Wed Sep-15-10 05:51 PM by FrenchieCat
I believe that is the issue as stated...."tasked with heading the effort to get the new federal agency standing."

Certainly if she will be the one setting up the organization,
that will make her best qualified to run it, whenever that time comes.

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vaberella Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-10 05:53 PM
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20. Yup...it's createdand hasn't started. n/t
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snot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-10 05:57 PM
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24. Ahem, I believe the head of the org is the FIRST person you hire--then she could hire, org it as she
thought best.

As an "advisor," that's ALL she gets to do, w/ no guarantee anyone will listen.

I half want her to expose this charade for what it is by saying thanks but no thanks.
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Raine1967 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-10 07:53 PM
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49. For some, nothing is EVER good enough. EOM.
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kenfrequed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-16-10 04:06 PM
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81. Well...
'Nothing' is what we are so frequently given so we have a lot of experience with it and we know it isn't really good enough.
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Raine1967 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-17-10 02:45 PM
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92. I don't know about this *WE* you speak of
I wonder if they are friends with the *Professional Left*

I am neither -- I am quite pleased about this news.
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donheld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-10 10:00 PM
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52. This is actually a good move IMHO
Were they have to go through a confirmation hearing, even Chris Dodd was starting to make trouble for her. This way they avoid all that.
What happens after November is anybodies guess.
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-10 05:50 PM
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14. From my article:
Edited on Wed Sep-15-10 05:50 PM by jenmito
The move, first reported by ABC News' Jake Tapper, gives Warren an important role in creation of the bureau, but avoids, for now, a confirmation fight in the Senate. Her selection will appease a slew of prominent lawmakers, progressives, and labor unions who in recent months have clamored for her nomination to the post.
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Beetwasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-10 05:51 PM
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19. Actually This Appointment Gives Her More Power
She won't be subject to the political pressures of confirmation. Read Slinksrwinks diary on Kos.
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-10 05:58 PM
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26. It's the same thing
Edited on Wed Sep-15-10 05:59 PM by ProSense
AP source: Consumer advocate tapped for new post

WASHINGTON – President Barack Obama will appoint Wall Street critic Elizabeth Warren as a special adviser to oversee the creation of a new consumer protection bureau, a Democratic official said Wednesday.

Warren would report to both the Treasury Department and the White House in a role that would not require Senate confirmation. The 61-year-old Harvard University professor had been considered the leading candidate to head the bureau itself, but her lack of support in the financial community could have set the stage for contentious Senate hearings that may have ultimately derailed her confirmation.

The official spoke on the condition of anonymity in order to speak ahead of the formal announcement.

The independent consumer bureau was created under the financial regulatory bill Obama signed into law earlier this year. It will have vast powers to enforce regulations covering mortgages, credit cards and other financial products, and be financed by the Federal Reserve.

The media is playing word games.

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flpoljunkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-10 06:00 PM
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28. Ezra Klein has questions, as well. Elizabeth Warren to be appointed to...something
Elizabeth Warren to be appointed to ... something

Or so Jake Tapper reports:

President Obama will announce this week that Elizabeth Warren, the Harvard Law School professor who first proposed the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau, will be named to a special position reporting to both him and to the Treasury Department and tasked with heading the effort to get the new federal agency standing, a knowledgeable Democrat told ABC News.<...>

Naming Warren as an assistant or counselor to both the president and Treasury Secretary Tim Geithner would allow the president to bypass a Senate confirmation process that could prove lengthy and contentious.

“I’m concerned about all Senate confirmations these days” including if he were to “nominate somebody for dog catcher,” the president said Friday when asked if he was concerned about Warren’s ability to be confirmed. “I’ve got people who have been waiting for six months to get confirmed who nobody has an official objection to and who were voted out of committee unanimously, and I can’t get a vote on them.”

Since nominees facing the confirmation process also enter a period of public silence, avoiding the confirmation process would also allow Warren to publicly discuss the agency and its benefits, which the president is eager for her to do.

Still unclear: Does this prevent her from eventually heading the agency? Or is this a precursor to doing that? What are her actual powers? How long does she serve in this position for?

By Ezra Klein | September 15, 2010; 5:28 PM ET

http://voices.washingtonpost.com/ezra-klein/2010/09/elizabrth_warren_to_be_appoint.html
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-10 06:03 PM
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31. I see it the same as when Bush chose Cheney to be in charge of looking for a good VP...
and CHENEY ended up being the VP.
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flpoljunkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-10 06:13 PM
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41. We can only hope so, Jen!
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-10 06:05 PM
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35. Doesn't matter
She's going to set up the agency. Consider it OTJT sort of like making Elena Kagan Solicitor General.

Seriously, do people consider that the President knows what he's doing and Elizabeth Warren is savvy enough to understand?

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Radical Activist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-10 06:04 PM
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32. TPM: Given lemonade and making piss all over everything.
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Lorien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-10 10:28 PM
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56. Better than passing out piss and calling it lemonade.
which is what the WH is doing.
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Lorien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-10 10:26 PM
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55. Yglesias is right. nt
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AlecBGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-10 05:48 PM
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13. CONGRATS EW!
hopefully this is just a stepping stone up to a bigger role! :bounce:
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BlueIdaho Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-10 05:51 PM
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16. About damn time... nt.
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Peacetrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-10 05:51 PM
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17. YESIREEE K&R
:fistbump:
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-10 05:57 PM
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25. It's brilliant timing, too!
:fistbump:
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ClarkUSA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-10 05:51 PM
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18. Elizabeth Warren is "tasked with heading the effort to get the new federal agency standing."
:woohoo:
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CreekDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-10 05:53 PM
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21. i'm sensitive to being teased right now
i'm not applauding until i see her given power to actually do something --and i see it get done.
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-10 05:55 PM
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22. Doing it this way avoids the confirmation process. She's in. That's a very smart move. n/t
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CreekDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-10 05:57 PM
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23. not with you there
sorry. not convinced.

who the heck are they going to put up that will be easier to confirm?

i cannot even begin to imagine. :banghead:
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-10 05:58 PM
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27. SHE will be the one to take the position
that will be created-without having to be confirmed.
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CreekDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-10 06:05 PM
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36. oh and what if they appoint Dodd or someone like him to run the new agency?
what will happen to her recommendations then?

WHO will they appoint that will be easier to confirm that Warren and based on what will make them easier to confirm --how likely is it that they will undermine her?

i've been toyed with far too long. i'm sure they don't mean any harm, but sometimes i feel as though i'm sharing a foxhole with the administration and they are negotiating with the enemy to allow just one of us to get out safely.
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ClarkUSA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-10 06:08 PM
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38. Dodd is retiring and supported Elizabeth Warren's nomination just last week.
Edited on Wed Sep-15-10 06:09 PM by ClarkUSA
Let's not drive ourselves to distraction with what-if's.

Enjoy the OP! jenmito is correct. :party:
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CreekDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-10 06:11 PM
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40. Dodd supported Warren's nomination? Oh come on...
you're smarter than that.

if he wanted her to get the nomination and wanted it to succeed, he would've quietly called the WH and advised them of his concerns.

instead he broadcast to the entire media that she couldn't be confirmed and even suggested that there be an alternative.

come on!
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ClarkUSA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-10 06:15 PM
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42. Yes he did. Check with his DC office if you don't believe me.
Read my comments on this thread before you express further derision, please:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=433&topic_id=441342&mesg_id=441482
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kenfrequed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-16-10 03:57 PM
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78. Read the law carefully
That is the magic of it. Obama doesn't HAVE to put up someone easier to confirm. Ever.
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kenfrequed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-16-10 04:02 PM
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80. oops
My mistake, I thought he actually gave her the position. Lovely, all the stupid right wing noise flack without a senate hearing and without the power. Terrific.
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jefferson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-10 06:02 PM
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29. I'll applaud this...
Sucks that Ms. Warren didn't get what she deserved, however. I look forward to learning more about what role she will play.
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-10 06:05 PM
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34. I believe she WILL end up getting THE position...
this is just a roundabout way of doing it.
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Hello_Kitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-10 06:02 PM
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30. Great news. I hope she gets a lot of face time too.
She's very engaging and is great at explaining complicated financial topics in a way regular people can understand.
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NC_Nurse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-10 06:04 PM
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33. Sounds sketchy to me. I'm going to wait and see.
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-10 06:07 PM
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37. I see it more as a "back-door way" of getting her in without confirmation.
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Cal33 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-10 06:31 PM
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43. Fine. As long as she gets in and can do a good job.
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Jackpine Radical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-10 06:46 PM
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46. Yes, that's right.
And Obama can take his own sweet time going about a "permanent" appointment. Like maybe some time in his second term.
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girl gone mad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-16-10 07:11 AM
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60. More like an underhanded way of shoving her aside.
I hate these stupid games the administration plays.
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DevonRex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-16-10 11:35 AM
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64. You really did choose the most appropriate name for youself. nt
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no limit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-16-10 08:44 AM
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61. Why not just name her interm head? That seems like a much better way to get her in
assuming you actually want her in.
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Recursion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-16-10 01:51 PM
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67. So she doesn't report to Geithner
That's the main idea from what I'm seeing.
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GOTV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-16-10 03:36 PM
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76. From this article in the Washington Post...
"Warren is expected to take on a dual role as assistant to the president and special adviser to Treasury Secretary Timothy F. Geithner"

So she does report to Geithner in some respect I think.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/09/15/AR2010091505999.html

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mkultra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-17-10 12:08 PM
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88. interim head of what genius?
The agency doesn't exist yet.
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-10 06:10 PM
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39. White House To Tap Warren To Set Up Consumer Financial Protection Bureau
Edited on Wed Sep-15-10 06:10 PM by ProSense
HuffPo: White House To Tap Warren To Set Up Consumer Financial Protection Bureau

The White House has tapped Elizabeth Warren as a special adviser to help set up the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau, ABC News is reporting. The move allows her to act as an interim head of the CFPB and will enable her to begin setting up the agency immediately and prevent the GOP from filibustering her nomination. Warren could serve until Obama nominates a permanent director -- a nomination he's not required to make for some time. Obama could also nominate her as the permanent director in the near future, a prospect that has been discussed among top aides, according to a person familiar with the White House deliberations. Warren will also be named as a special adviser directly to Obama, ABC reported.

<...>


That's how you do it!

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Jackpine Radical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-10 06:45 PM
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45. When I first heard the news on PBS, I was pissed.
"Sellout," I thought to myself. It was only after reading a few things--like that HuffPo piece--that I realized this IS the interim director appointment we were cheering and hoping for just yesterday.

Bravo Barack.
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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-10 06:42 PM
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44. Just heard the news!!! WOOOOHOOOOO!!!
Happy dance. :)
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Jennicut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-10 07:15 PM
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47. Good, gets her in without having to drag a fight out over her nomination.
I am very pleased right now.
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-10 07:35 PM
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48. Exactly. n/t
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-10 08:39 PM
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50. Maddow is happy about this-she's talking about her now! An announcement will
Edited on Wed Sep-15-10 08:42 PM by jenmito
be made within a week. Chris Hayes is happy, too. They both think it's GOOD news! It's "incredibly gratifying," said Hayes. They're talking about why the way Obama is doing this is a GOOD MOVE. She can be a public face and voice right NOW instead of having to remain in a "cone of silence" until she's confirmed.
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impik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-16-10 01:37 AM
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57. Exactly. And she'll remain "an "outsider", which is very good
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snot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-10 09:11 PM
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51. If this appointment matters, Wall St. will howl. If they don't . . .
. . . I have to say, real power usually requires 1. authority to hire and fire, and 2. authority over a significant budget. Some "advisors" effectively have this -- e.g., Rove -- but most don't.
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Flying Squirrel Donating Member (95 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-16-10 05:05 AM
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58. Good thinking, I still am not convinced
that this is anything but a clever way to appease the left yet still not put her in any position of real power.
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BlancheSplanchnik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-10 10:15 PM
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53. Sounds good AND smart to me...
specifically "avoids a confirmation fight in the Senate". If I'm reading that right, it means she can get to work helping to create the thing, instead of everyone being hamstrung with fucking stupid partisan battles.
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Lorien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-10 10:25 PM
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54. They got her out of the way so that they could put a Wall Street cronie on the job
I'm just surprised that anyone here didn't see through it (though a few never will).
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Flying Squirrel Donating Member (95 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-16-10 05:06 AM
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59. I'm with you, call me a diehard cynic but I've seen too much
already from this Administration to think they're actually doing something that would take balls.
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-16-10 11:02 AM
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63. Weird that they'd put her right in the middle of it if they wanted to get her out of the way. And
it's also weird that Rachel Maddow and Chris Hayes would both be happy about this.
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DevonRex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-16-10 11:36 AM
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65. That's the silliest thing I've read on DU today. nt
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Faryn Balyncd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-16-10 09:16 AM
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62. Now that's playing some chess!!!
Edited on Thu Sep-16-10 09:16 AM by Faryn Balyncd


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Orrex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-16-10 01:48 PM
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66. Stuff *that* up your committee, Chris Dodd!
Edited on Thu Sep-16-10 01:48 PM by Orrex
:woohoo:
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katty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-16-10 02:02 PM
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68. great, we'll see how much they listen to her advice
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-16-10 02:06 PM
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69. I think it's a sneaky way to give HER the job without having to be confirmed.
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JNelson6563 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-16-10 02:19 PM
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70. Awesome.
:toast:
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JDPriestly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-16-10 02:46 PM
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71. Good news! Now let's see whether Obama lets her open her mouth.
Because if he does, he will have the conservatives over a barrel. What I like about Elizabeth Warren is the fact that she can explain economic and legal facts in a way that just about anybody can understand.

I have heard that Summers has criticized her research and maybe her math abilities. She doesn't need to do research or math. She just needs to explain the basic economic realities to the American people in that down-to-earth way she does. She will be a great ambassador for Obama and all sensible, law-abiding people.

Banks have nothing to fear as long as they are honest and fair in their dealings.
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-16-10 02:49 PM
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72. As Rachel Maddow and Chris Hayes said last night, the oppointment allows her to
"open her mouth" as you put it immediately instead of having to remain in a "cone of silence" until/if she's confirmed.
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The Doctor. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-16-10 02:58 PM
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73. WOOT!
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bobburgster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-16-10 03:18 PM
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74. Maybe they just wanted to get around the confirmation process.
Christ, the way nominations get held up, we would probably have a blue moon before she was confirmed. Sounds like a great back door way to get her started.
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-16-10 03:22 PM
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75. EXACTLY! n/t
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kenfrequed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-16-10 04:30 PM
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83. Easy way around that
It would have been called a recess appointment and it would have been a good signal to the base. I'm sensing the hand of Rahm in this stupidity. We will magically keep conservatives, who will never vote for us happy by not stepping on any toes. And somehow the most symbolic and seemingly meaningless gestures are supposed to keep progressives happy. Arrghh!!


Please, get out and vote. Change the narrative and the spin. Make the Tea Parties cost the GOP big time.
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kenfrequed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-16-10 03:55 PM
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77. YES!!!!
Hopefully this will be the start of a trend.

In my opinion Obama can feel free to fill out department and judicial vacancies this way. He can put it all under the heading of "Getting Serious and Getting Down to Business."
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kenfrequed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-16-10 04:01 PM
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79. Oh wait...
Special advisor...

Damn it. Fooled again. Why didn't he just do a recess appointment and be done with it. This was idiotic.
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EmeraldCityGrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-16-10 04:12 PM
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82. Bullshit. Another appeasement.
Elizabeth Warren designed this program...this was her idea. Why can't Obama fight for her and appointment her to the position
she deserves ?
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mkultra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-17-10 12:11 PM
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89. maybe because the agency doesnt exist yet
and its her job to create the agency.

Seems pretty fucking simple.
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EmeraldCityGrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-17-10 02:14 PM
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91. I've changed my opinion.
I'm not to proud to admit my post was a bit of a knee jerk reaction since Warren's appointment
has been front and center on my list of things that must happen to create change.

I actually think this position will be a better fit for her.
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Unruly Donating Member (48 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-16-10 04:34 PM
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84. Obama . . .

. . . splitting the difference again. He wants the left to know he's on their side, but doesn't have the guts to formally nominate her . . . reminds me of his statements on the Muslim Center near ground zero, "they have a right to do it, but I won't comment on it's wisdom."

Once again, he makes himself look weak.
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-16-10 05:32 PM
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85. Wrong. He's very SMART to do it this way...
to APPOINT her rather than to nominate her because she might not make it due to ALL of the Repubs. and certain DEMS. like Chris Dodd as well as conservadems.

Did you see Obama and his STRONG defense of the Islamic Center in his formal press conference? I guess not. :eyes:
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Unruly Donating Member (48 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-17-10 06:44 AM
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86. I guess . . .
. . . that was after he said he would not comment on the wisdom of the Islamic Center. How many positions has he had on that so far . . . two, three . . . still counting?
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-17-10 12:00 PM
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87. He's had ONE position...
they have every right to build the Islamic center on that site. When he was asked a question about it, he answered consistent to his speech the night before, but the media cut off his response to the reporter. If you saw his whole answer, it was consistent.
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Unruly Donating Member (48 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-17-10 01:54 PM
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90. n/t
Edited on Fri Sep-17-10 02:09 PM by Unruly
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EmeraldCityGrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-17-10 03:14 PM
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93. Weak? I suppose that's why
Edited on Fri Sep-17-10 03:17 PM by EmeraldCityGrl
the Rethugs are crying foul. They've been duped and they know it.

http://baselinescenario.com/2010/09/10/republican-nightmare-putting-elizabeth-warren-to-work-now/
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