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bigdarryl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-01-10 12:15 PM
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Big Ed: What in the hell was that Saturday
He's taking Stewart to task I wish Ed and Keith O put the Stewart BASHING to rest because there not going to win the argument against him.
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zulchzulu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-01-10 12:22 PM
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1. Like most things, it appears this stuff is over Ed's head
I can't listen to him. He and Scarborough should team up and do a show... on ESPN.


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bigdarryl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-01-10 12:32 PM
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2. They just don't get what stewart was saying to the nation in fact there making his argument
by the way they are acting
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virtualobserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-01-10 12:44 PM
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4. they didn't like seeing their faces on the jumbotron
I feel as if that was the reason that Keith's show last night was just old stuff. He didn't want to talk about it on his show.
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okieinpain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-02-10 02:04 PM
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24. ah man that's cold. n/t.
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AndrewP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-01-10 12:32 PM
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3. He isn't calling him names. He's asking "What am I supposed to do"?
I think it's a valid question.

What is considered "mean" by Stewart as opposed to stating a disagreement with the right wing over their rhetoric?



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marlakay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-01-10 12:50 PM
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5. I agree with Ed
Jon is always going after the dems for being spineless but then he wants us to be all goody goody and sane...how do you do both???

My only thought is to be more like Rachel...she pounds with the facts but doesn't throw crap around at the other side....
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trayfoot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-01-10 05:29 PM
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17. I totally agree with you!
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WildEyedLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-02-10 01:52 PM
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23. There might be a reason Rachel was not on the media montage at the rally
She's one of the only straight up JOURNALISTS we have. I like Ed and Keith, but I can see Jon's point, too.
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fedupinBushcountry Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-01-10 12:51 PM
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6. It is
I was asking myself the same question at the rally Saturday. I see both points, Ed and Stewart and KO. That is what is so hard, if we are silent, then what? I get Stewart's point but I still in my own way have to answer to lies and hate from the other side. I wish it could be like Stewart wants, but sadly we are living in a politcal nature that has to be reckoned with. I am sure they all agree on that point, just in different ways.
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flpoljunkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-01-10 12:56 PM
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7. When asked at news conference after rally if he would urge people to vote Tuesday, Stewart said...
"I think people should do what moves them. That's not my place to make that choice for them. That's theirs."

He might have said that in a representative democracy, citizens ought to educate themselves and vote. Our system is truly broken, and the only way to fix it is public financing of federal campaigns--something President Obama supported as a senator, but has said not a word about since he came president.

Stewart, however, is essentially saying, 'F*ck it!' I find that very discouraging.
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bigdarryl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-01-10 12:58 PM
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8. He at least should have told the young people to exercise there vote he said nothing
about Tuesday maybe because it really doesn't effect him except a tax cut because he is in that 2% tax bracket.
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Jennicut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-01-10 01:13 PM
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10. If younger people watch Jon Stewart chances are they already vote.
Edited on Mon Nov-01-10 01:13 PM by Jennicut
Stewart talks mostly about politics. I doubt anyone 18 to 34 would understand any of his show unless they were already voting or at least had any concern about politics. My concern is with young people that pay no attention at all.
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CTyankee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-01-10 04:36 PM
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16. And those are the people who need to vote their best interests the most!
I see such despair in some younger people who are just barely keeping their heads above water. It seems like they have given up, at a much too early age. It's sad...but they do respond to the repuke's messages that tap into their hopelessness...
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flpoljunkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-01-10 07:03 PM
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18. Although Tony Bennett said, 'Vote!' right after he finished singing! Many missed it.
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Supersedeas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-02-10 01:47 PM
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21. when the corporate comedian finds it tiresome, it's time for the left to quiet down with their facts
Edited on Tue Nov-02-10 01:52 PM by Supersedeas
and stuff.
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EC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-01-10 01:06 PM
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9. What's the problem?
As I remember the clips of Ed and Keith were positive clips showing them calling the others out for lying...weren't they?
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Pisces Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-01-10 01:23 PM
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11. Ed you can be a big windbag, who is full of himself. Over 200k people at
the event knew what was going on and what Stewart meant. Get over yourself, or stomp out of the building pouting again.
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fugop Donating Member (901 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-01-10 01:25 PM
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12. I'll admit I get it a little
I was at the rally, and I thought it was great. On the other hand, I really do wish that, with all those clearly engaged people there, Jon had said, "Vote. I won't tell you who to vote for, but vote. It's your right. Don't sit back and wait for the system to fix itself."

That failure to at least encourage some kind of action - regardless of political beliefs - disappointed me. I had hoped for more on that front.

But I"m still happy that he and Colbert put the rally out there. At least I know people are engaged, and I can only hope others are out there like me who want to fix the system, not just lament the fact that it's all screwed up.
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Arkana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-01-10 01:32 PM
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13. Do they realize that by attacking Jon they're proving his point?
Jon's a comedian--if it really didn't bother them, they should just roll their eyes and continue on with their day.
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Phx_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-01-10 04:01 PM
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14. Here's an idea, Ed. You do your job -- whatever that is, and let Stewart
and Colbert do theirs. They're much better at their jobs and all of you cable guys put together.


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Ramulux Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-01-10 04:19 PM
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15. Then how about Stewart stops insulting Ed
Stewart has been bashing Ed for a while now, but hes not allowed to respond? What exactly is your problem with Ed, do you not like seeing people get passionate about things? I literally dont understand what your saying.
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Phx_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-02-10 01:35 PM
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19. He didn't insult Ed. He showed a video of Ed, which spoke for itself.
I like Ed, but let's face it, he's a screamer/ranter (ditto for Olbermann), which is what Stewart is railing against.
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polichick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-02-10 01:42 PM
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20. I don't blame Ed. I was at the rally and had a great time...
...but it really pissed me off to see Ed and Keith lumped in with the sociopaths on the other side.

We'd be considerably worse off than we are without those guys speaking the truth - boldly.
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Politicub Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-02-10 01:51 PM
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22. Love me some Ed. Wouldn't trade him and Keith for 100 Stewarts.
The rally left me scratching my head on Saturday, and has gotten to bug me the more I've thought about it.

And I'm gen-x. We perfected the art of meh and ennui, and still think that the rally was a wasted opportunity.


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vaberella Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-02-10 02:23 PM
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25. I'm shocked by people on this board.
When Obama derides these same people---Ed, KO and others on the political left---the Admin is the bad guy and bashing the people who voted him in. Stewart now is bashing the exact same people---and he has a lot of political clout if we take the Rally for Sanity seriously. Actually Stewart needs to be taken to task. Look, Stewart is in the same boat and does the same thing they do it, just because he spins it as comedy doesn't make it any more different.


There are people playing two sides here and I think there's a level of hypocrisy here.
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Pisces Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-02-10 02:36 PM
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26. I am glad the Pres. called these people out. I am with him and Stewart. I am sick of the
complaining and whining. Can't get your agenda passed immediately you decide to jump ship, let's see what's in store for you with the other side in charge. I'm sure your agenda's will flow
smoothly through a Republican Congress.
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wisteria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-02-10 02:49 PM
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27. Good. Sewart should really be challanged on the idea that MSNBC is the same as Faux News.
MSNBC may lean left, but they used facts and truths to back up what they have to say.
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