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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-02-10 10:52 PM
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Without Dem Govs in Ohio, Penn and Michigan for 2012,
Edited on Tue Nov-02-10 11:15 PM by FrenchieCat
the 2012 Presidential elections may not be what we hoped.

Just thinking ahead, like I always do. :(
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fugop Donating Member (901 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-02-10 10:53 PM
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1. Don't scare me ...
Just when I'm ready to go to bed, you say this and I start thinking Sarah might have a shot after all.

Halloween is supposed to be over. I don't want to be scared anymore!
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-02-10 10:54 PM
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2. Well, some also want to primary the President.....
but just look at that as the cherry on top!
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Cali_Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-02-10 10:55 PM
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3. Chill out...2 years is a LONG time in politics
Republicans will overreach and get their asses handed to them in 2012.
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-02-10 11:00 PM
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4. Hopefully, that will happen......
but I know my Democrats.....especially those currently walking around
without a nose on their face.
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awoke_in_2003 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-10 12:37 AM
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18. americans have short memories...
why do you think republicans are winning again?
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Carolina Lady Donating Member (20 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-02-10 11:03 PM
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5. Correct me if I'm wrong but,
wasn't Crist governor of FL in 2008?
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-02-10 11:04 PM
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8. Yeah.......a much more gentler Republican
than what is representing those states now.
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Doremus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-02-10 11:04 PM
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6. Yup. And with the SoS and every other major Ohio statewide office going to the repukes tonight
I fear Blackwell dejavu coming in 2012.

My god, it's like the Bush years never existed. :cry:
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-02-10 11:06 PM
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10. Well, some of us forgot about all of that......
as we were too busy roasting marshmallows on the fire that we set
at the President's feet, and most all other Democrats as well.

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LeftyAndProud60 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-02-10 11:04 PM
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7. FLa didn't have a democrat in 2008. nt
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alcibiades_mystery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-02-10 11:05 PM
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9. I predict six voting machines total for Cleveland, Miami, Detroit, and Philly
Total.

It's a big shit sandwich.
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JCMach1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-02-10 11:07 PM
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11. FL still outstanding
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-02-10 11:15 PM
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12. Let us pray.
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-02-10 11:23 PM
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13. You're thinking more steals .... ???
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sweetapogee Donating Member (449 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-02-10 11:58 PM
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14. another factor to ponder...
In 2012, Senate Dems have to defend twice as many seats as pukes. It is essential that the economy get crackin now.

House districts will be re-drawn with puke governors and a bunch of puke state-houses. not good because the pubs can blame dems for a poor performing economy.
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Drunken Irishman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-10 12:00 AM
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15. Remember, in early 2009, many thought Dems would make gains this election...
Because Republicans were retiring and they were going to be put on the defensive in far more states.

Didn't happen. 2012 is still a long, long ways away.
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DimplesinMI Donating Member (281 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-10 12:14 AM
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16. FrenchieCat....in Michigan, it is the unemployment rate
If the unemployment rate in Michigan is 13 percent in 2012, President Obama will not carry Michigan. Democrats are in AWE tonight in this state. Governor....gone. Secretary of State....gone. Attorney General....gone. Worst of all...Michigan's Supreme Court...gone.

People in Michigan are mad. They are losing their homes and jobs, at the same time. This is why this state flipped upside down tonight.

Tomorrow, I want President Obama to DEMAND a FDR type work program and a lame duck passage for S-3706 for the 99ers and a renewal of HR-4213. Both of these bills directly impact the unemployed. In addition, I want him to say, "HAMP was wrong and we will not have millions of middle class Americans losing their homes in a Mortgage scheme. With such, I will demand Congress pass a bill to have the banks reduce mortgages to the CURRENT MARKET VALUE of America homes and the false values of 2007."

We will see........
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pstokely Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-10 01:27 AM
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21. Michigan could become the next West Virgina due to brain drain
Edited on Wed Nov-03-10 01:42 AM by pstokely
The remaining electorate is aging. Not a lot a young college grads moving to into Michigan
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DimplesinMI Donating Member (281 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-10 01:40 AM
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22. It is a high possibly.....
Edited on Wed Nov-03-10 01:40 AM by DimplesinMI
I know I have told my daughter who is at WMU (Western Michigan) as a Sophomore now...to move quick, fast and in a hurry to get out of here, after she receives her degree.

In fact, I spoke with my Husband after the results came in, that maybe we both need to move too. He works for a contractor for the Federal Gov't and their main office is in Virginia. I am a freelance writer so my job is flexible. Going to keep talking him into it because frankly, I am TOO DONE with Michigan, after tonight.
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Uzybone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-10 12:17 AM
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17. who will the opponents be? what will the unemployment rate be?
If its anyone currently on the scene and unemployment is below 8% there is nothing to worry about.
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okieinpain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-10 01:09 AM
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19. jobs, jobs, jobs, and it won't matter what they try. n/t.
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jillan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-10 01:12 AM
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20. omg Frenchie, you are so right.
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depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-10 01:43 AM
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23. From the looks of the electoral map, Obama loses key states
Ohio, Florida, Virginia, North Carolina, Indiana are likely to be in the Republican column.

Michigan, Wisconsin and Pennsylvania may also be in play.

Sadly, this was probably inevitable after they blew the stimulus. How often is it that a leader's first action in office turns out to be so important that it costs them the next election?


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Presidentcokedupfratboy Donating Member (994 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-10 01:52 AM
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24. Two years is a long time
And besides, the GOPologists are going to have to do something other than say "No". Such as, where will they actually try to cut the budget? Will they really try to repeal or interfere with the implementation of Health Care?
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craigmatic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-10 01:52 AM
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25. OH maybe but the other 2 are going blue. The only way they win PA is if toomey is on the ticket.
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