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rhombus Donating Member (678 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-10 12:33 AM
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Don't underestimate the power of the Citizens United ruling
So much corporate and anonymous money flowed to the GOP coffers and pushed them into the winning column tonite. Our fight is a fight against very wealthy and powerful special interests.

The heart of the matter is public financing of campaigns.

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Inchworm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-10 12:35 AM
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1. Of the 25-30 political calls received here in NC...
2 were from Dems.

I can't wait until all the numbers around this are out.
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grahamhgreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-10 12:36 AM
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2. And they threw the money at progressive seats to destroy the left and
Edited on Wed Nov-03-10 12:36 AM by grahamhgreen
Put fear into the heart of the party
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denimgirly Donating Member (929 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-10 12:54 AM
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11. Today the Progressives were Exterminated BIG TIME! Now They Can Buy the Entire Congress off.
Obviously the progressives were a thorn and so they had to take them out and were successful. Now special interests can buy the rest of congress with relative ease and push their agenda without anyone calling them out or resisting taking kick backs
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jgraz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-10 12:36 AM
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3. No one is underestimating it
It not only put our government up for direct sale to the highest bidder, but it opens the floodgates for all sorts of artificial rights to be assigned to corporations.
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Skink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-10 12:37 AM
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4. They'll double up on Obama.
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kysrsoze Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-10 12:38 AM
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5. I'm not. I strongly feel it may signal the death of democracy in the U.S. I have a BIG question.
Edited on Wed Nov-03-10 12:39 AM by kysrsoze
That shitty ruling, courtesy of Scalia, Roberts and Thomas et al, has done more to damage our country than probably everything over the last century.

I've asked the question before...

Does anyone know of any party planning to file suit to reverse this ruling, based on an unfair amount of speech due to ties with nearly infinite money?
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craigmatic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-10 12:41 AM
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6. We fought this race with one hand behind our backs. Obama needs to get us more money
Soros, Oprah, and the rest of the lefty elite need to chip in so we can fight back this tide.
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kysrsoze Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-10 12:44 AM
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8. I think Soros gave up on it all, and I seriously doubt Oprah will give any of her own $$$.
Edited on Wed Nov-03-10 12:48 AM by kysrsoze
Unfortunately, Rethugs have Wall Street/the top 1% on their side.
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ProfessionalLeftist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-10 12:46 AM
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10. Oprah? Don't think she'd be much help. n/t
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craigmatic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-10 02:03 AM
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16. You never know. Stranger things have happened.
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jillan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-10 12:43 AM
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7. Can't someone counter this and take it all the way up to the SCOTUS?
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kysrsoze Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-10 12:45 AM
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9. I keep asking that, as I think corporations and anonymous donors have an unfair amount of speech.
They literally have UNLIMITED $$$, and that cannot be considered free speech.
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avaistheone1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-10 12:59 AM
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12. Citizens United one of the worst ruling in US history.
Period. :puke:
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Historic NY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-10 01:09 AM
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13. We have not much time to make up ground before 2012..it needs investigating.
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Cobalt-60 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-10 01:21 AM
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14. How much offshore fascist cash came from us taxpayers?
I believe this infusion of hostile foreign cash came at least in part
from the money that disappeared in Iraq.
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Yeshuah Ben Joseph Donating Member (763 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-10 01:25 AM
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15. It's a sickening irony that one of the first casualties of Shittizens United
would be the very man who wrote the law who restrained these corporate bastards for years.

Russ Feingold :(
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JCMach1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-10 09:26 AM
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19. not irony, intentional...
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denem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-10 04:31 AM
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17. +1000
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GeorgeGist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-10 09:18 AM
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18. The corporations have won ...
it's time to destroy them.
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Cobalt-60 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-10 01:07 AM
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20. How about a Corporate Sunset Law?
If corporations are persons, then they must be subject to death.
If these bastards had to stand before a panel every other year to renew their charters,
we could snuff them the moment the bad behavior started.
IBM, for example, added insult to injury by off shoring jobs then trying to sleaze on the victims unemployment with offers of slave pay in India.
Their asses would be out of business at the next hearing.
Or, perhaps if there were potential consequences for such behavior we might not have seen it.
It's not a final solution to corporate person hood.
But it would be a start.
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