He just doesn't get it.

[olegramps]

The day after his party got its ass kicked Obama is on national TV begging the opposition for cooperation. He is so damn naive that it hurts. Oh, lets all be friends. He just can't get it through his head that Republicans despise him and would rejoice if he dropped dead.

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[tblue]

2. Sad, huh?

If he's going to roll over for them, it's gonna be a long couple years and it won't be pretty.

[FrenchieCat]

3. Yep. He should be swearing that he'll oppose whatever they stand for always....,

and feels like kicking a little ass!

what is he thinking? :wow:

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[ProSense]

5. If I were the President, I'd tell them to ***k off!

That would guarantee his re-election in 2012.

[Dawgs]

6. Huh? I haven't heard any of that.

:wtf:

Worst post of the day.

[ProSense]

11. It's the continuation of the

why is the President calling for bipartisanship meme. Why doesn't he ever call out Republicans.

When he does, the reaction is usually to blame him for allowing them to be Republicans.

It's his fault they accuse him of stuff, his fault they don't want to cooperate and his fault they're Republicans.

[wndycty]

7. Naive? Gramps when is the last time you won the presidency, passed health care refrom,

beat Hillary Clinton in a primary, all while being under the types of attacks he is under.

Naive? Yeah right.

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[olegramps]

62. Far Left?

50,000 troops in Iraq
Mired in a Swamp called Afghanistan
Health Care disaster
Patriot Act Renewed
No justice for Bush and his band of bad of gangsters
Bailout of Banksers
etc.. .......

[olegramps]

14. Enjoy the Change that never materialized.

[ProSense]

21. Oh please

Just because you refuse to acknowledge change, doesn't mean there hasn't been any.

[CBR]

26. It seems the people 65+ are the problem. Talk to your friends. nt

[Donnachaidh]

77. the seniors were NOT the problem -- but hey, scapegoating is a team sport, ain't it?

unbelievable amount of it from the swarm. They don't get it either. :eyes:

[Donnachaidh]

76. ain't THAT the truth! K&R n./t

[Warren Stupidity]

24. you left out: "and got an historic ass kicking in the mid term election"

why did you leave that out?

p.s. it wasn't health CARE reform, it was health insurance reform and it was a REPUBLICAN version of health 'care' reform without ANY Republican support.

[ProSense]

30. Don't worry.

He's in good company.

[Warren Stupidity]

46. argument by content free link

[ProSense]

52. Oh let me spell it out for you since links appear to cause anxiety.

LBJ, you know the tough guy who didn't take shit from anyone, signed the Civil Rights Act and Medicare into law, and still lost 48 House seats in 1966.

[Warren Stupidity]

58. And Nixon won in 68. Really, seriously, ironically bad example.

No wonder you don't actually indicate the contents of your links.

[ProSense]

59. Right,

even Civil Rights and Medicare couldn't save LBJ.

So the notion that people put a lot of stock in great social policy is simply inaccurate. People hate change.

[Caretha]

75. I was there

Viet Nam is what did LBJ in.

[olegramps]

74. Those loss of House Seats was racist reaction to the Civil Rights laws.

As Preseident Johnson remarked at the sighing of the Civil Rights Legislation, he was signing the death warrent of the Democratic Party in the South for years to come. Do you believe that he shouldn't have signed it? I believe that Obama shouldn't have dealt in backroom deals with phama.

[niceypoo]

80. LBJ didn't compromise

He used the bully pulpit.

Your comparing opposites.

[tridim]

31. Based on history and trends, this was a loss for the opposition party.

Why don't you know that?

[Warren Stupidity]

44. wow

[eleny]

61. If only Obama would act like he knows that fact

[Donnachaidh]

78. because they don't suffer from cognitive dissonance?

Up is down, good is bad, etc. :eyes:

[GOTV]

8. We will not get the cooperation and as a bonus for asking he appears weak. Good job!

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[bigwillq]

20. It's not that he's too weak

because I really don't think he is, it's just that it seems that way to many people, and that's actually worse than actually being weak. Perception is everything, as someone said.

[ChairmanAgnostic]

10. I agree, but honestly,

given his personality, what else would he say?

[grasswire]

12. I have to agree.

He sounds weak. Nice, and smart, but weak. I think about how Joe Biden would have faced the world this morning.

[ProSense]

16. "I think about how Joe Biden would have faced the world this morning. "

Joe Biden is wonderful. Look at all the things Joe Biden said, and Democrats still lost.

[Cognitive_Resonance]

15. Nuance--

"Diplomacy is the art of saying "Nice doggie" until you can find a rock."
-Will Rogers(?)

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[Dawgs]

27. Hahahahaha!!!

Some of you have lost your minds this morning.

[WorseBeforeBetter]

37. He's done if he doesn't start FIGHTING and focusing on jobs...

with a TREMENDOUS sense of urgency. The GOP cleaned up in North Carolina because it hammered away on jobs and the economy (and Obama and Pelosi).

And, no, the country does not want President Yukon Barbie, just maybe the batshit crazy/uninformed 29%ers.

[AngryAmish]

18. He should have taken a huge, steaming dump on the carpet

and told the teabaggers to eat it.

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[treestar]

43. This one's disgusting

Not just wrong, but using that issue to make a political point?

[ampad]

49. Amen to that

Some of them are over the top today. I don't know if they are hungover or still drunk from last night. You should of caught the deleted post above. Poster compared obama to an insane teabagger. The crazy is running free this morning.

[GSLevel9]

22. the people who voted for all those Pubs

don't WANT to be friends with you, Mr. President. They want to defeat you, to humiliate you, to embarrass you.

They don't want to work WITH you, they want to work AGAINST you.

[WorseBeforeBetter]

23. He's coming across as weak.

It's embarrassing.

[Dawgs]

33. Huh? You watching the same thing as me?

He sounds like an intelligent, non-petty, strong President.

I think you're trying to hard to make him something he's not.

[WorseBeforeBetter]

45. There's no doubt he's intelligent and it's almost absurd to have to...

qualify a President as "non-petty," but in my view, he is coming across as weak. I want a fighter.

[mvd]

57. Here's the reality

Republicans in Congress do not care about the country. They only care about the President not succeeding. They don't want any policies that will benefit the middle class and poor. And they won't compromise - I think the only thing they can agree on is day of the week, and even that might be in question. So the President needs to be stronger than the last two years, or any progress could be reversed. I want to hear that fighting spirit, because the Repukes certainly will fight.

[flpoljunkie]

25. Oh, he gets it. He's setting them up, and doing it beautifully--particularly on job creation.

[Larkspur]

35. right, Obama is play that 1000 level chess game

:eyes:

Guess Obama wants to be a one-term wonder.

[Warren Stupidity]

53. this historic ass-kicking was the setup!

we are so stupid not to understand that.

[young but wise]

40. +1

He definitely gets it.

[Kadie]

47. Agreed.

He is very smart.

:thumbsup:

[JCMach1]

28. It's 3-Dimensional chess...

:sarcasm:

[DCBob]

29. He gets it..

this country is so f'king polarized we are on the verge of civil war. There is no other option except to find common ground with the opposition.

[gkhouston]

41. It's what the grown-ups do. Now we'll see what the Republicans choose to do.

My guess is that they'll continue to play extremely partisan politics, even to the detriment of the country. That will not play well in 2012.

[NatBurner]

32. what? he's saying the same thing he's been saying since 2004?

egads!

*clutch the pearls*

[EndElectoral]

34. What a "reasonable" President. Unfortunately, I'd like a little more passion.

[FrenchieCat]

36. I personally think we don't get it.....

but we will soon enough.

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[treestar]

39. Today would not be the day to vent

Well anyone who manages to get themselves elected President never does that in public.

Whatever. He's not going to look like a petulant child for your temporary satisfaction.

[jillan]

42. What's he suppose to do? Get up there and say WTF is wrong with the American People?

[ProSense]

51. Yes, the day after a huge Republican victory

the President is supposed to emphasize that Republicans have been blocking his agenda and refusing to cooperate. He should have stressed that they are do nothing obstructionists. That would be the message to send to the electorate: You stupid people allowed these morons to win.

Of course, some people would then accuse him of whining.

[Warren Stupidity]

54. No he is supposed to stick up for and fight for core Democratic Party values. nt.

[ProSense]

56. Which

he does. Want to say which of those policies don't represent core Democratic Party values?

[Whisp]

48. you want him to go all Sybyl?

I'll ask you this.

Do you playact characteristics in your real life, or do you pretty well have a personality and stick with it?

[Azathoth]

50. What the fuck do want him to do? Scream "You wanna go to war?" and pull out an assault rifle?

Maybe he could taunt the GOP for only taking 60 seats. "Hey losers! There's still 190 left that you didn't get! Bring it on!"

[CakeGrrl]

63. Yes! It works so well in the movies, he could've made hay with that presser.

:crazy:

The naivete isn't on the part of the man in the Oval Office...

[Codeine]

55. Oh, bugger off.

What the hell do you expect the man to do? Threaten the entire Republican caucus to a fucking fistfight? We got pasted -- now we regroup and move forward in the new environment.

Haven't any of you people every seen a party lose a fucking election before? This is NOT our first time to this rodeo, kids. Let's dust ourselves off, realize we lost because people were pissed about the economy and do what we need to do to claw back some seats in the next couple cycles.

Parties lose majorities. Then they struggle. Then they regain them. This is politics, and it's why every time somebody predicts a "permanent Republican majority" or "the death of the Republican party" they look like friggin' idiots.

[olegramps]

64. In only two short years the massive mandate that he had has evaporated.

I most certainly hope that the Democratic Party prevails. I just don't happen to agree with his approach since it has obliviously not been very fruitful. FDR,I believe had it right and had no problem in challenging the wealth and welcomed the hatred.

I don't in the least minimize the great challenge that President Obama faced. His approach didn't deter me and I worked for our local candidates and voted a straight Democratic ticket. In my lifetime I fought for the union and was a steward. I watched as young worker gladly accepted the benefits that were hard won by the union members and the swallowed the management's propaganda hook, line and sinker. They took damn good care of them; outsourced their jobs, cut their pensions and canceled their health insurance. Union membership went from a high of 36% to todays' 6%.

[zulchzulu]

60. Ever play chess?

Didn't think so.

[Unvanguard]

66. In chess, you play to win, and so does your opponent.

A player who wants to "compromise" while his or her opponent tries to win is going to lose.

[Brickbat]

73. Right here.

:thumbsup:

[Unvanguard]

65. It's astonishing. I don't even know what to say about it anymore.

When people want to fight you instead of work with you, you fight them back. It's not that hard to understand.

[impik]

67. He'll be gone in two years

He is just too good for this country. He looked broken today and Michelle won't let him ruin his life any more. He'll go and you could have your "real progressive" ticket in 2012.

[DCBob]

69. Yep, this country doesnt deserve this guy..

He gave it his best shot.. the ignorant masses rejected it. In 2012 they may get what they deserve -- a Palinesk President.

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[DemocratSinceBirth]

70. Some People Here Are Hopelessly Naive

Politicians always say they want to cooperate but behind closed doors they are discussing how to destroy the opposition if they can't co-opt them.

[suzie]

71. +1,000

[denimgirly]

72. Me thinks you havent been paying attention for the past 2 years.

Not only did the repubs not cooperate at all, obama went ahead and gave them the deals they wanted...watering down legislation to garbage.

[Pisces]

79. Yes, you are so much smarter. If only you were running the country. Ignorant and

dumb is the substance of all of these threads.

[Beacool]

81. It's pro forma.

Every president makes overt gestures to the opposite party when his ass has just been handed to him in a platter by the voters. Both sides promise collaboration and come January the knives come out and the fur starts flying again. It's politics, same old bull no matter who is in power.

:shrug: