Democratic Underground Latest Greatest Lobby Journals Search Options Help Login
Google

Blitzkrieg on Social Security starts in one short month

Printer-friendly format Printer-friendly format
Printer-friendly format Email this thread to a friend
Printer-friendly format Bookmark this thread
This topic is archived.
Home » Discuss » General Discussion: Presidency Donate to DU
 
MannyGoldstein Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-10 10:04 PM
Original message
Blitzkrieg on Social Security starts in one short month
Obama's commission issues their recommendations in December, and the lame-duck House is slated to vote on these recommendations (as is the Senate, I presume).

The commission members have indicated that they want to raise the retirement age to 70 for those under 58 - by my calculations, that's a $50,000 grab from our pockets, just so they can keep tax cuts for the rich.

Anyone have any ideas on what to do? This is really making me angry.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
Historic NY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-10 10:05 PM
Response to Original message
1. They only have to raise the cap above 75k....most poor people are dead by 70.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Skink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-10 10:06 PM
Response to Original message
2. Seems like a good place to take a stand.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
MannyGoldstein Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-10 10:06 PM
Response to Reply #2
3. What stand would you take?
Assuming others would as well? I'm curious.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Skink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-10 10:08 PM
Response to Reply #3
6. If they recommend anything other than raising the cap I'd disband the commission.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
leveymg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-10 10:16 PM
Response to Reply #6
8. We should let Obama and the Party leaders know that's what we want, then.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
applegrove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-10 10:06 PM
Response to Original message
4. That is a transfer of wealth to the wealthy.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
MannyGoldstein Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-10 10:07 PM
Response to Reply #4
5. Yes, like we need more of that!
It's astonishing that a Democratic President would pull this on working Americans. Astonishing.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
bluestateguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-10 10:08 PM
Response to Original message
7. Absolutely nothing. That's what.
These commissions always deliver a much ballyhooed report and then it is forgotten soon afterward.

They need 14/18 votes to even send a report to Congress, and there is no guarantee they will have it.

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
dflprincess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-10 10:16 PM
Response to Reply #7
9. Pelosi promised an up or down (no debate) vote on whatever recommendations
the committee comes up with.

The Senate is also expected to give them an "up or down" vote. And I'll bet, they will both be voice votes as well.

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
bluestateguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-10 10:28 PM
Response to Reply #9
12. OK, so?
It isn't going anywhere.

Write it down. Nobody is going to remember this silly commission in 3 months.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
pa28 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-10 10:16 PM
Response to Original message
10. You've hit on what could be one of the few silver linings to losing the house.
We might see them act like actual Democrats for once and vote the recommendations down in the house or at least delay a vote until this Congress adjourns causing the report to expire.

There is no reason at all for Dems to take the blame for implementing a VAT tax and cutting Social Security. If the Republicans want that badly enough they are free to draft their own bill in the next Congress, put their names on it and try to sell it to the public.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
WorseBeforeBetter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-10 10:26 PM
Response to Original message
11. Merry fucking Christmas.
What to do? Bombard Congress and the White House with phone calls and emails. And get everyone you know to do the same. Get the word out anyway you can -- this is one issue that seems to unite Dems and many Republicans.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Bitwit1234 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-10 10:30 PM
Response to Original message
13. I think we should all grab signs (misspelled of course)
and parade in front of the House and ask the republicans why they haven't given us a raise. Why they haven't manufactured jobs as posted in another thread. I think we should constantly give em hell. Eventually the press will have to show us.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Whisp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-10 10:31 PM
Response to Original message
14. I have an idea what you can do
but I can't say it out loud
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
MannyGoldstein Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-10 10:33 PM
Response to Reply #14
15. Love, Love, Love
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
doc03 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-10 10:33 PM
Response to Original message
16. It would be suicide for a Democratic president
to cut SS, I can't believe they would be stupid enough to fall for it. No I believe it. Oh yea the Rethugs will go through their dog and pony show like they are being by-partisan and helping save SS but you can bet next election they will blame Obama for the cuts. Even though far more Republicans voted for NAFTA then Democrats the Bill Clinton has always got the blame for it.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
MannyGoldstein Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-10 10:37 PM
Response to Reply #16
17. Obama appointed the commission, and
appointed the co-commissioners - both of whom have made deals to cut SS in the past, and have vowed to cut it in the future.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-10 10:41 PM
Response to Reply #17
18. So you think he plans on doing something that amounts to political suicide?
Let it go, it will result in exactly what some people want: Obama being a one-term President.

Would that please you?

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
MannyGoldstein Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-10 10:42 PM
Response to Reply #18
19. I want Social Security to not be slashed nt
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
StreetKnowledge Donating Member (921 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-10 12:07 AM
Response to Reply #18
20. He's headed in that direction as it is now.
As far as I see it, I'd rather we try to force a halt to any Social Security cuts. If he allows cuts to it to appease the GOP, I say remove him. And I don't mean by making sure he loses in 2012 to the GOP. I mean by primarying him and sending him packing.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
OHdem10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-10 12:29 AM
Response to Original message
21. For what it is worth, did they not learn one thing. Why start
with something that is going to be as gutwrenching
as health care and will end up looking worse????

Tin ear Politicians.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
trackfan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-10 12:35 AM
Response to Original message
22. Blitzkriegs eventually must run into their Stalingrad.
I hope there will be some way to get enough congress members to reject the recommendation.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DU AdBot (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view 
this author's profile Click to add 
this author to your buddy list Click to add 
this author to your Ignore list Thu Dec 26th 2024, 04:53 AM
Response to Original message
Advertisements [?]
 Top

Home » Discuss » General Discussion: Presidency Donate to DU

Powered by DCForum+ Version 1.1 Copyright 1997-2002 DCScripts.com
Software has been extensively modified by the DU administrators


Important Notices: By participating on this discussion board, visitors agree to abide by the rules outlined on our Rules page. Messages posted on the Democratic Underground Discussion Forums are the opinions of the individuals who post them, and do not necessarily represent the opinions of Democratic Underground, LLC.

Home  |  Discussion Forums  |  Journals |  Store  |  Donate

About DU  |  Contact Us  |  Privacy Policy

Got a message for Democratic Underground? Click here to send us a message.

© 2001 - 2011 Democratic Underground, LLC