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jefferson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-10 05:24 AM
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Politico rolls out the "uppity negro" frame. Spins Obama's presser humility into "arrogance."
What an utterly shameful rag. Just look at this shit.

Obama's arrogance
By: John F. Harris and Glenn Thrush
November 5, 2010 04:40 AM EDT

In the anthology of Barack Obama quotations, one of the classics came just hours before the event that made him the hottest property in American politics.

As Obama walked toward the arena at the 2004 Democratic National Convention in Boston, where he gave an electrifying keynote address, a Chicago Tribune reporter noted that he seemed to be making a good impression.

“I’m LeBron, baby,” Obama told author David Mendell. “I can play on this level. I got some game.”

Those words came at the start of the supernova phase of Obama’s career. But Wednesday came another quote, not quite so crisp, destined to become an early marker of the crash-to-earth phase.

“This is something that I think every president needs to go through because….sometimes we lose track of the ways that we connected with folks that got us here in the first place,” Obama said toward the end of his post-election news conference, after repeated questions pressing him to go beyond his initial clinical descriptions of the disastrous election results and explain whether he felt responsibility or remorse. “Now, I’m not recommending for every future president that they take a shellacking like they, like I did last night. I’m sure there are easier ways to learn these lessons. But I do think this is a growth process and an evolution.”

Is he capable of growth? And how painful the evolution?

<SNIP>

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1110/44732.html
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-10 05:27 AM
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1. They are like dogs who won't let go.......
Feels like reconstruction to me. Everybody thinks they are smarter than the President.
He was elected, but is not allowed to govern.
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jefferson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-10 05:32 AM
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2. Truth.
Edited on Fri Nov-05-10 06:01 AM by jefferson_dem
And if he dare publicly reflect on his governing experience (like his predecessor would never do), and how he could do even better, this is how rags like Politico react. They are the worst of the worst.
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Cosmocat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-10 10:04 AM
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9. it just friggen surreal ...
the MSM just has completely given up on being "journalists" at all, and GLEEFULLY do the run dems down/prop rs up thing 24/7, the actual text of things does not matter at all - they were going to do "arrogant" BEFORE he ever spoke ...
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Fruittree Donating Member (488 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-10 06:00 AM
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7. I think you put that really well...
People I speak with all say it's like the campaign that's never ended. It makes me so angry some times!
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jillan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-10 10:55 AM
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15. "He was elected, but is not allowed to govern." Well said, Frenchie!!
That sums it up perfectly.
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butterfly77 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-10 12:20 PM
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24. He has no experience in running anything..
but bush does. Yesterday,I heard somebody say he was a kid..
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-10 05:33 AM
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3. They're just jumping on the bandwagon; look around.
Seems to be the meme of the day from all quarters.
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-10 05:34 AM
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4. Fuck the stupids.......
They deserve whatever the Republicans have in store for them,
since they worked so hard for it.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-10 05:35 AM
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5. I agree, Frenchie. It's so tiresome. To see it on DU is even worse. nt
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-10 05:37 AM
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6. Just makes them look like the perfect counterparts to the Tea Party fools......
except they are both throwing rocks at the same person. No wonder some here are encouraging that we join forces with the Baggers......! The goal is the same....just that the talk is slightly different.
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butterfly77 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-10 12:24 PM
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27. We are suppose to believe the country ..
has spoken and that the country is conservative. If the country is so conservative then why do we have so many strip joints,bars,pornography everywhere,drugs and alcohol but they are conservative. I guess the liberals are the only consumers...
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Fruittree Donating Member (488 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-10 06:02 AM
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8. Sadly - agreed...
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CBR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-10 10:05 AM
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10. The circular theory of politics...
the left becomes the right.
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CakeGrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-10 03:22 PM
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36. Oh yeah. A favorite on DU lately is that
he doesn't understand (like the complainer does so very clearly) how evil Republicans are.

"Maybe he has time to learn..."

"He just doesn't get it."

How I wish we had comments from the Clinton presidency to compare the attitudes.
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flamingdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-10 10:07 AM
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11. How can they trot out the arrogance meme when he was so low key?
Politico is a repuke tool.
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whathehell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-10 12:27 PM
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30. Bingo!....That's what I want to know...I've never understood how they can call him "arrogant"
Edited on Fri Nov-05-10 12:30 PM by whathehell
He's so personable and low key.

It is the LEAST credible criticism they have...It has to be playing to the racist "uppity negro" crap.

Utterly disgusting.:puke:

In all truthfulness, I don't know how well that arrogance meme is working for them because only a few months ago, a study released on cable news showed his "personal likability" ratings at 70 percent....they must be playing to the redneck balance...Hideous.
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BootinUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-10 10:08 AM
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12. won't work.
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wisteria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-10 10:48 AM
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13. It is Mitch McConnell who is arrogant. n/t
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Dinger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-10 10:51 AM
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14. C'Mon JD,
It's politico. What do you expect.
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Beacool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-10 11:37 AM
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16. I read the article.
I think that the criticism has a lot less to do with his race than his personality. Even his friends in the IL senate used to defend him from the charge of arrogance.

Aside from the LeBron quote, there are a myriad more:

"I have a gift, Harry".

"We are the ones we've been waiting for".

"This is the moment when the oceans began to recede and the planets began to heal...." Said after winning the nomination.

About a year ago retiring Representative Marion Berry (AR) warned Obama about a midterm bloodbath comparable to the 54 seats the Democrats lost in 1994. Supposedly Obama responded, "Well, the big difference here and in ’94 was you’ve got me." This Tuesday the Democrats suffered the biggest loss in the House since 1938.

Proverbs 16:18

Pride goeth before destruction, and a haughty spirit before a fall.......

:shrug:
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-10 11:54 AM
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18. Unlike Hillary, who didn't even plan on having to campaign after "Super Tuesday,"
Edited on Fri Nov-05-10 11:57 AM by jenmito
saying in an interview she'd have the nomination wrapped up by then. :eyes: How'd THAT work out for her? :rofl:
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Beacool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-10 12:07 PM
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20. Well, never underestimate the capacity of the American public
to go for style and empty platitudes over substance.

:D
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CakeGrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-10 12:13 PM
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22. Again, eh?
Edited on Fri Nov-05-10 12:24 PM by CakeGrrl
Sorry, but your girl was a big FAIL when she had every advantage on paper. And she blew it. Shooting your poison darts at the President still doesn't negate it.

:hi:

ps - you totally sidestepped the excellent example of Hillary's extreme hubris. Pride goeth before that MAJOR fall.

:)
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Beacool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-10 12:23 PM
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26. My assessment of Obama is separate from the 2008 campaign.
Did any of you tried to read this article with an objective eye? There is comment after comment from various sources, none of them are new. Granted that some are coming from the right, but many are from Democrats who supported the president. Ignoring all criticism, as the WH seems to have done this past 2 years, is arrogant and foolish in itself. Self awareness is vital in personal growth, as is a little humility and knowing one's limitations.

;)
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CakeGrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-10 12:26 PM
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28. You can keep putting on the mask of "reason"
But you just can't help getting your obsessive digs in at the President beforehand.

Transparent as glass as ever.
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jefferson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-10 12:28 PM
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31. You're being totally disengenous...
"Self awareness is vital in personal growth, as is a little humility..." That's EXACTLY what he did on Wednesday, which Politico corrupts into this lame (racially loaded...yes I said it) smear. So go ahead and rely on the corrosive comments from Politico readers...who pretend to be "former" Obama supporter. I don't buy it.
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jefferson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-10 12:21 PM
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25. Have you been sealed in a hermetically sealed vault since July 2008?
Move on...
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Beacool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-10 12:26 PM
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29. My answer: Wake up and smell the java!!!
Edited on Fri Nov-05-10 12:26 PM by Beacool
If the worst ass whooping the party has received since 1938 is not a wake up call, I don't know what is.........

:eyes:
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jefferson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-10 12:31 PM
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32. It could have been worse (especially the Senate) but it was bad.
Does that mean any baseless smear by right wing media and people who have ulterior motives should be accepted as gospel? Uh...no. Be honest and constructive, is all I ask.
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-10 03:18 PM
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35. Substance? Like lying about being shot at? Like being so arrogant and entitled
that she didn't even plan to campaign for the long haul? Hillary underestimated her more-than-formidable opponent and LOST. And now she will be known for working in the OBAMA administration. Too bad you STILL can't get over it.
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Beacool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-10 01:08 AM
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39. She will be known for working in the Obama administration?
Of course, Hillary was nothing until Obama asked her to be his SOS.

Please, how delusional........

:eyes:




:7
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-10 03:56 PM
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44. You continue to ignore the facts about her arrogance, but it doesn't make them not true.
You can keep changing the subject, but I'll keep bringing them back AND pointing out other things about her you can't face.
:)
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StevieM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-10 01:48 AM
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40. But you have no basis for making that proclamation other than the fact that your side won and you're
saying that history is written by the winners.

When Obama entered the race Hillary moved up her announcement date to January. Originally, she was going to take time before formally announcing. But from the moment Obama entered it was understood that there was another major figure in the race. At the beginning she was polling in the mid-30s while he was in the low 20s--not exactly a huge lead.

The only reason people get away with saying that she thought she was a sure thing, and that she had "unprecedented" advantages, is because she built up her lead over the course of 2007. Hillary never had the advantages that George W. Bush or Al Gore had in 2000 or that Walter Mondale had in 1984. The assertion that she did is based on nothing more than the fact that her husband was once president. In reality, Hillary Clinton vs. Barack Obama was a lot like Gary Hart vs. Mario Cuomo would have been in 1988 had Cuomo run and Hart not been derailed by scandal.

Steve
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StevieM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-10 01:56 AM
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41. Hey Bea! Good to see you here again. Sorry it has to be in a thread that is once again filled
with unprovoked vitriol towards our fine former first lady.

The actual seat pick-up from 1994 was 52 seats, just for the record. One seat was picked up the following year and another was a vacant GOP seat.

I hope all is well with you.

Steve
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jefferson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-10 06:45 AM
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43. Hey...
I like your style - informative posts. I hope you stick around.
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-10 11:49 AM
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17. Did you see Boehner say he'd prefer a glass of Merlot instead of a Slurpee with Obama? Could
you imagine the charges of "elitist" that would be thrown at Obama if it had been HE who said that? Talk about a double standard-but afterall, Obama is BLACK-he has no right to be PRESIDENT, let alone prefer a glass of Merlot like Boehner.
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dave29 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-10 12:00 PM
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19. well if it's not arrogance, it's weakness, and if it's not weakness it's Muslim
for Chrissakes. Get with the Pogram (pun intended)
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JustAnotherGen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-10 12:10 PM
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21. I'm just sick of it
Seriously.

We need whisper campaigns on the left directed at the Right. Is that dirty? You betcha. But the people that vote for them believe anything they are told as long as it's repeated over and over and over again.

He's not been allowed to govern (Bravo Frenchie Cat!!!!! :-) ) since he came into office because of the 'whisper campaigns'. The latest one - India-Gate.

Well here's the thing - we collectively have a target - The HOR.

Stop them now!
Town Hall Meetings? - You have awakend a giant sleeping beast.
Rallies - KILL them noooooooow! Portray the Right as French Royalty circe 1790.


But no more disparaging the President. We have a house to win back, a senate to hold, and a WH to hold in 2012. We have to start the grass roots stuff now.

Whether the Democratic Leadership (soup to nuts) likes how we proceed. WE know something they DON'T Know or rather know but refuse to act on: The 'middle' votes on emotion and repetitive smears -

In the meantime - Politico's employees can all go collectively f*ck themselves sideways with Carl Paladino's bat. That's about all any of them are worth speaking of, writing about, or even thinking about.
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butterfly77 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-10 12:17 PM
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23. I was half asleep this morning..
and I said the same thing here they come..Whomever was talking said something about the business community and the President being arrogant..
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Joanne98 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-10 12:39 PM
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33. So Andrea Mitchell decides to have them on. Even though they're ALSO

Trying to get Keith Olbermann fired.
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bullwinkle428 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-10 12:43 PM
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34. Arrogant? If only!
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PBass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-10 03:27 PM
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37. Wow, the POTUS has a healthy ego, who would have imagined that was possible?
Maybe Obama should show some humility by declaring himself "The Decider".
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Cosmocat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-10 06:07 AM
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42. Come on, he was the guy you would want to have a beer with ...
sorry, there has not be a more "arrogant" president in our lives than Bush - the son of a privileged oil family/former president who spent his life walking on the red carpet rolled out to him ...

But, the journalists just loved good old georgie because of his "locker room, towel snapping sense of humor" where he called them degrading names ...

HE was the guy you would have a beer with ...

8 years of them doing hundreds of broadcasts from the "ranch" down in Texas - a 5 million dollar complex, but they were MADE to shoot all of their photos with these idiots standing in front of a broken down shed they left standing just for photo ops ... NEVER were these jackals allowed to shoot a shot of the actual "ranch." They were FORCED to do this cute little shed shot, and he was just a man of the people, don't you know ...

Obama, the self made man, the absolute textbook of the american story, he is "arrogant" because, well, because that is the negative frame these arseholes decide to throw at him off and on ...

A gentle and thoughtful guy, a quick smile and a RAZOR sharp self depricating sense of humor ...

Yeah, HE is arrogant, Bush the guy they would have a beer with ...

Scum, absolute friggen scum of the earth these jaggoffs ...
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political_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-10 05:22 PM
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38. Sickening. Politico is only good for being at the bottom of an outhouse.
Edited on Fri Nov-05-10 05:32 PM by political_Dem
But I'm not surprised by the sentiment they've expressed. The dominant culture is always afraid of a composed, well-heeled, erudite person of color. Such a demeanor goes against the racial sensibilities of the bigot in question. Anything or anyone defying the racist stereotypes is always attacked and torn down by those who are threated by it. When the takedown is over, the racist denies they had anything to do with it. Even worse, they are backed up by others in the dominant culture who "didn't see anything because racism doesn't exist".
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